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    • chpalmerC Offline
      chpalmer
      last edited by

      They are the same hardware with the difference being that the 750 has the extra 4 ports which are an add in card.  The extra 4 ports MSK actually run on a PCIe bus while the first 4 ports are on a PCI bus.  Case in point… I took the add in card out of a fried X1250-e (same as a 750 with minor differences*) and put it in my X550e when I built it up.

      Im running (Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.26GHz) which I think is the 780 chip you mention.  Ive since retired it to another location but still have VPN access to it. Its done several TB of data transfer in just about 3 years since I moved it.

      *some units mainly the 1250 have an IDE port onboard which I have never seen in a 550e. Ive seen 750e units with and without the IDE port. All of them have the edge adapter for adding a harddrive in the rear slot.

      Triggering snowflakes one by one..
      Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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      • Z Offline
        zonic
        last edited by

        Great info - Thanks man, just got my self an x550e so iam excited to see whats inside this one :) + the  company i work for are getting rid of some old computers from storage - so a little scavenger hunt and i think i might find some useful cpu and dimm`s.

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          DeLorean
          last edited by

          About the cooling.
          The x550e, x750e and x1250e use active cooling,
          and use 3x 40x40mm fans
          1 fan is for cooling of the powersupply, the other 2 fans are for cooling the cpu.
          You can lower the RPM of all these fans with a package called WGexpec , with a value of 10.

          Grtz
          DeLorean

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          • G Offline
            GingerSnaps35
            last edited by

            My X750e has the IDE port. I'm wondering if the COM2 header can have a USB expansion port plugged in like a PC USB Header. The BIOS has an option to turn on the ONBOARD USB. If so, I bet you could run a USB keyboard there (option in BIOS to turn that on too).

            The BIOS also has an option to turn on the ONBOARD SATA, yet I don't see a SATA header on the board in my X750e.

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            • stephenw10S Online
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              You can't use a USB device on the com2 header, which is a serial port. There are two USB headers at th front of the board that may or may not be populated depending on what the age of your board is. I did actually see a picture of an X550e that had a USB port installed the other day. It's hidden behind the plastic front though. At least one person here tried it and reported success though I never did.
              There is also a ps/2 header if you need to use a keyboard.

              Steve

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              • G Offline
                GingerSnaps35
                last edited by

                I don't see the USB headers. I'll take a pic of my insides and show it. Stephen, I'm also needing help getting the HDD to boot 2.2.6 as per the help file.

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                • Z Offline
                  zonic
                  last edited by

                  just got around to open my x550e and there is a usb pinout option on the board.

                  here is my x550e guts, this was after i cleaned out all the dust bunnies.

                  Also could not seem to find my old null modem cable, so i had to make my own. Used cisco cables/ cat5 pathc panel connector i had laying around and made null modem cable /full handshake. pleased with the result :)

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                    zonic
                    last edited by

                    Search around for what to do with my x550e box, and found a lot of interesting topics, hope i dont affend anyone if i copy /paste it in here ?

                    Some of the cool topics is the microdrive option, wich seems to work effortless. Also a cool idea.

                    The BIOS update [X750B2] i guess works for the x550e as well even if the name says X750B2, please correct me if there is a new version or if this works.

                    I plan on running the latest 2.2.6 i dont know if the issues like NIC drop and the NIC LED issue is now fixed within this version.

                    also waiting for upgrade parts like the CPU to Pentium M 760 @ 2GHz/533MHz/2MBCache [SL7SM] also upgrade from 512mb to 2gb dimms - Would be intersting to see the performance before and after CPU/Dimm upgrade.

                    Here is the topics i found that caught my attention and i is some of the things i would like to do to.

                    pfsense watchguard / firebox Backup and Flash the BIOS
                    –-----------------------------------------------------------------------
                    Connect using your emulator software using 9600, 8, 1, None
                    After 3 beeps, you should get a command prompt
                    Backup the BIOS, awdflash /pn /sy WGbackup.bin /e
                    Watchguard_pfsense_7
                    Once backup is complete, run the following to flash the BIOS

                    Freedos on COM1:
                    Current date is Mon 06-20-2011
                    Current time is  7:18:20.20 pm
                    C:>cd bios
                    C:\BIOS>awdflash.exe X750EB2.BIN /py /sn /cc /e

                    C:\BIOS>

                    Wait until the C:\BIOS> is ready for additional input

                    Configure the BIOS
                    Connect using your emulator software using 115200, 8, 1, None
                    Reboot the firebox
                    At POST, during the memory test, use the DEL or TAB keys to enter the BIOS
                    (The screen will show a standard BIOS Screen with options for configuration if your connected correctly)
                    Enter Standard CMOS Features
                    Select the IDE Master 0 (Zero) using the enter key
                    Update the following

                    IDE Channel 0 Master      [Manual]
                    Access Mode              [CHS]
                    Head                      [    2]

                    Exit using the ESC key
                    Save using the F10 key
                    Fan speed can also be adjusted inside the BIOS
                    Under Health Check{?}
                    Within fan speed, enter “BB” without quotes
                    Exit using the ESC key
                    Save using the F10 key

                    pfsense watchguard / firebox NIC int drop out ? - ( fixed in 2.2.6 ?)
                    –---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                    There’s a known problem with pfSense 2.0.1 and Watchguard Firebox x750e and x1250e.
                    Namely the additional 4 NIC interfaces have a tendency to drop out with a Watchdog error
                    and the only remedy is to reboot the box.

                    I came across a fix that seems to resolve the issue permanently.
                    Been running for 2 weeks on the PCI-e interfaces without dropout.
                    Previously I’d be luck to get 3 days on those.

                    The fix is to add these lines to /boot/loader.conf.local

                    hw.bce.tso_enable=0
                    hw.pci.enable_msix=0
                    hw.pci.enable_msi=0
                    net.inet.tcp.tso=0
                    hw.re.msi_disable=0
                    hw.re.msix_disable=0

                    pfsense watchguard / firebox MicroDrives

                    additionally I picked up a few Western Digital 4GB MicroDrives from eBay.
                    The idea behind this was to replace the flash based CF card in the firewall.
                    In theory the MicroDrive does not have the write limitation of a Flash card so it
                    could potentially store a lot more information on the card like logs, graphs, a/v definitions etc.

                    Getting the card working on the x750e was effortless. The machine booted up with no issues.
                    The boot process did take slightly longer which is understandable as this is a mechanical device with the same random IOP limit as a regular disk drive.

                    pfsense watchguard / firebox LCDproc

                    The LCDproc-dev package is the one that contains the necessary driver to enable screen and button functionality.

                    Services: LCDproc 05.5. pkg

                    configuration:
                    "enable LCDproc at startup" -Check-
                    "DisplaySize" -2 rows 20 colums-
                    "Driver" -Watchguard Firebox with SDEC (x86 only9-
                    "refresh frequency" - 5seconds-
                    "port speed" -default-
                    "Brightness" - default-
                    "offrightness" -default-
                    "contrast" - default-
                    "backlight" -default-
                    "enable output LEDs" -uncheck-

                    pfsense watchguard / firebox Fan Speed

                    After enabling SSH access, login as your admin user.

                    /etc/rc.conf_mount_rw
                        fetch -o /conf https://sites.google.com/site/pfsensefirebox/home/WGXepc
                        chmod 0755 /conf/WGXepc
                        cd /conf
                        ./WGXepc -f 10
                        ( I choose to use 30)
                        /etc/rc.conf_mount_ro

                    Alternatively you can use the shellcmd package to execute the command at startup.

                    System > Packages
                        Available Packages Tab
                        Locate Shellcmd
                        Select the + icon to the right
                        Confirm install is complete
                        Services > Shellcmd
                        Click the + icon to add a new command
                        Enter in the following
                        Command: /conf/WGXepc -f 30 (10 is minimum, FF is full speed [Loud])
                        Shellcmd Type: Shellcmd
                        Description: Configure Fan Speed
                        Reboot
                        Confirm

                    Note that while the fan speed I recommend above is the hex value 10, the slowest fan speed that should be selected in the BIOS is BB which is much faster. Stability problems have been reported when using the BIOS to slow down the fans; WGXepc does not have these limitations.

                    These settings are only after boot, if you want to control during startup, see this Link.

                    /etc/rc.conf_mount_rw
                        fetch -o /usr/local https://www.hexhound.com/files/fanctrl-new.zip
                        cd /usr/local
                        tar -xzf fanctrl-new.zip
                        touch /etc/rc.conf.local
                        vi /etc/rc.conf.local
                        (Press “i” once, then type “fanctrld_enable=”YES” ” with the YES in double quotes. Press escape, then the colon : and type “x”, then press return to save and exit. Sorry, this step can be a little advanced if you’re not used to VI.)
                        /etc/rc.conf_mount_ro

                    pfsense watchguard / firebox enable the NIC LED’s - (fixed in 2.2.6 ?)
                    –-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                    /etc/rc.conf_mount_rw
                        fetch -o /boot/modules/if_sk.ko https://sites.google.com/site/pfsensefirebox/home/if_sk.freebsd-8.3.ko
                        fetch -o /boot/modules/if_msk.ko https://sites.google.com/site/pfsensefirebox/home/if_msk.freebsd-8.3.ko
                        Update the /boot/loader.conf.local or /boot/loader.conf
                        if_sk_load=”yes”
                        if_msk_load=”yes”
                        dmesg|grep LED
                        /etc/rc.conf_mount_ro
                        Reboot

                    https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox

                    http://phil.lavin.me.uk/2013/03/installing-pfsense-on-a-watchguard-firebox-x550e-and-x750e/

                    https://www.hexhound.com/how-to-flash-pfsense-2-1-to-a-watchguard-firebox-x750e-x550e-ssl-500/

                    http://documentation.dbernhardt.com/pfsense/article.html

                    https://www.slashetc.us/2014/05/getting-pfsense-loaded-to-watchguard-firebox-x-core-e-utm-part-1/

                    https://www.slashetc.us/2014/05/getting-pfsense-loaded-to-watchguard-firebox-x-core-e-utm-part-2-lcd/

                    https://harkink.com/pfsense-on-a-watchguard-firebox-x750e/

                    https://www.hexhound.com/quiet-the-fan-on-your-pfsense-watchguard-firewall/

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                    • chpalmerC Offline
                      chpalmer
                      last edited by

                      i guess works for the x550e as well even if the name says X750B2

                      They're the same box.  Just an extra added card in the 750 for the extra 4 ports.  Look at your box and you can see where it goes.  Oh and front faceplate…

                      Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                      Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                      • G Offline
                        GingerSnaps35
                        last edited by

                        So in order to do WGX on a HDD install, is there anything different I need to do, or is it following the same tutorial on HexHound?

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                        • chpalmerC Offline
                          chpalmer
                          last edited by

                          The only thing between the HD install and Nano is whether or not you have to make the media writable or not.  Nano yes.  HD no.

                          http://www.triebwerk23.de/joomla/index.php/firewalls/watchguard-xtm-5-xtm-505-515-525-545-pfsense-64-bit

                          More for ya.  :)  If you speak German or use a translator.

                          Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                          Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                            GingerSnaps35
                            last edited by

                            I had to chmod 0755 both fanctrld.sh in the /usr/local/etc folder and fanctrld in the /usr/local/sbin folder in order to make this automatic fan control script work. For some reason, it didn't give the files permission to be executed after unzipping.

                            WOW does it make a WORLD OF DIFFERENCE on how quiet it runs!

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                            • Z Offline
                              zonic
                              last edited by

                              Nice one ! Are you running 2.2.6? Did you get a chance to look at the nic drop issue and nic led part ?

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                                GingerSnaps35
                                last edited by

                                @zonic:

                                Nice one ! Are you running 2.2.6? Did you get a chance to look at the nic drop issue and nic led part ?

                                Yes, I am running 2.2.6 and to answer your questions, I haven't had an issue with the NIC's. The 4 PCIe NICs run faster when you have a faster CPU. Also, I don't know what you mean about the NIC LEDs.

                                The thread "pfSense on Watchguard x550e" is a must read for us Firebox owners. I found most of the answers I needed using the search tool.

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                                • Z Offline
                                  zonic
                                  last edited by

                                  The nic led issue was that some experinced that the nic leds dident light up.

                                  I will most def browse trough the "pfsense on watchguard x550e" post.

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                                  • G Offline
                                    GingerSnaps35
                                    last edited by

                                    My LEDs work really well

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                                    • A Offline
                                      aaron.picksley
                                      last edited by

                                      What cf card should i use to boot freedos to flash the bios on my x550e ?

                                      I have tryed the 15mb image on a digi life cf 256mb but it doesnt beep 3 times to say its booted, just once when it posts.

                                      Aaron

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                                      • chpalmerC Offline
                                        chpalmer
                                        last edited by

                                        @aaron.picksley:

                                        What cf card should i use to boot freedos to flash the bios on my x550e ?

                                        I have tryed the 15mb image on a digi life cf 256mb but it doesnt beep 3 times to say its booted, just once when it posts.

                                        Aaron

                                        That might have more to do with the null modem cable your using…  Some do not have the hardware handshake connections.

                                        Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                                        Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                                          aaron.picksley
                                          last edited by

                                          so if its the wrong cable it wont boot into freedos or beep 3 times at all ?

                                          I'm not 100% sure the cable is even null but i thought it just wasnt booting of the cf card.

                                          iv got a startech null modem cable at work i could borrow ?

                                          Aaron

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                                          • chpalmerC Offline
                                            chpalmer
                                            last edited by

                                            @aaron.picksley:

                                            so if its the wrong cable it wont boot into freedos or beep 3 times at all ?

                                            I'm not 100% sure the cable is null but i thought it just wasnt booting of the cf card.

                                            Aaron

                                            Are you seeing the BIOS screen come up?

                                            https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox    Look under General Advice

                                            Ill pull one of my boxes out of the cupboard later and see if I hear it beep.  My only null modem cable was borrowed and never returned so I need to purchase one myself.

                                            Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                                            Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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