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      Guest
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      With CPUs like that you should perhaps thinking of another case. The M350 is to small in my eyes and would
      not be able right to cool down. And the NIC is also not able to insert if you go with the M350 case! Or where
      you should be able to connect them to and have an outbreak slot for that Ports on the NIC?

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        Waqar.UK
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        Thanks Frank,

        will this motherboard do http://www.ebuyer.com/737175-asrock-h170m-itx-ac-socket-1151-dvi-d-hdmi-7-1-ch-hd-audio-mini-itx-motherboard-h170m-itx-ac?gclid=CM-ysOXuoswCFQo6GwodTtUC3g#
        or
        https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-ga-z170n-wifi-intel-z170-socket-1151-ddr4-mini-itx-motherboard-mb-536-gi.html

        cpu 6th Gen Pentium G4400 3.3GHz 47W HD 530 3MB Dual Core CPU

        ram    https://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-Memory-Module-Skylake-Compatible/dp/B00TY6A56U/ref=pd_sim_147_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=41Vkj6Q5vtL&dpSrc=sims&preST=AC_UL160_SR160%2C160&refRID=1ZHT6AXH35GQD7TNT6HT
        HyperX Fury Black Series 4 GB 2133 MHz DDR4 CL14 DIMM Memory Module (Skylake Compatible)

        power supply  30 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Quiet-300W-Power-Supply/dp/B00DBHMJRQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1461349788&sr=1-2&keywords=350w+psu
        Be Quiet L8 300W Pure Power Supply Unit

        Which case?
        https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cases-and-modding/pc-cases/micro-itx-nuc/mini-itx-cases

        I am leaning towards
        https://www.overclockers.co.uk/bitfenix-prodigy-mini-itx-cube-case-midnight-black-ca-073-bx.html
        https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cougar-qbx-mini-itx-cube-chassis-black-ca-013-cu.html
        https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zalman-m1-mini-tower-black-ca-085-za.html
        https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lian-li-pc-q04b-mini-itx-cube-case-black-ca-742-ll.html

        I have a 80GB 2.5" sata spinner or a 120GB Kingston SSD

        I am utterly grateful.  :)

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          Guest
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          ram    https://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-Memory-Module-Skylake-Compatible/dp/B00TY6A56U/ref=pd_sim_147_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=41Vkj6Q5vtL&dpSrc=sims&preST=AC_UL160_SR160%2C160&refRID=1ZHT6AXH35GQD7TNT6HT
          HyperX Fury Black Series 4 GB 2133 MHz DDR4 CL14 DIMM Memory Module (Skylake Compatible)

          I would suggest to go with 8 GB of RAM so I mean 2 x 4 GB for ~£31 wil ldo the job at his best!
          Because the new version 2.3 will be more then the others needing some punch according to the
          installed packets and offered services or tunings.

          power supply  30 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Quiet-300W-Power-Supply/dp/B00DBHMJRQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1461349788&sr=1-2&keywords=350w+psu
          Be Quiet L8 300W Pure Power Supply Unit

          Please buy at first the case and matching to them then the PSU.

          Which case?
          https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cases-and-modding/pc-cases/micro-itx-nuc/mini-itx-cases

          In some cases it would do nothing, but in others it would be better to go with the SSD a mSATA with
          a 2,5" SATA adapter.

          I have a 80GB 2.5" sata spinner or a 120GB Kingston SSD

          I would try out at first the 80 GB spinning HDD and if it would cause a deep sound I would go with a SSD
          instead of the spinning one. No problems at all it would be the best to buy at first the board and then the case
          and then the CPU & RAM and the PSU at last. Or all together but in that order.

          This cases I personally would prefer on top of others to preventing heat and not running in the trap to install
          loud fans later according to the case dimensions. One 12 mm fan would be silent.
          https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cooler-master-elite-130-mini-itx-case-black-ca-338-cm.html
          https://www.overclockers.co.uk/silverstone-milo-ml05b-htpc-case-black-ca-275-sv.html
          https://www.overclockers.co.uk/bitfenix-prodigy-mini-itx-cube-case-midnight-black-ca-073-bx.html
          https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phanteks-enthoo-evolv-itx-mini-itx-chassis-with-window-special-edition-ca-035-pt.html
          https://www.overclockers.co.uk/silverstone-raven-rvz02-w-mini-itx-htpc-case-black-window-sst-rvz02b-w-ca-422-sv.html

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            Waqar.UK
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            :) Frank.

            So I will go for the case https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cooler-master-elite-130-mini-itx-case-black-ca-338-cm.html
            8GB ram, 6th Gen Pentium G4400 3.3GHz 47W HD 530 3MB Dual Core CPU, first try with a 80 GB spinner or if that is too noisy then the 120 GB SSD. Power supply then as I like the wattage & company
            https://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Quiet-300W-Power-Supply/dp/B00DBHMJRQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1461349788&sr=1-2&keywords=350w+psu
            Be Quiet L8 300W Pure Power Supply Unit
            Finally which motherboard please?
            Will this do  http://www.ebuyer.com/737175-asrock-h170m-itx-ac-socket-1151-dvi-d-hdmi-7-1-ch-hd-audio-mini-itx-motherboard-h170m-itx-ac?gclid=CM-ysOXuoswCFQo6GwodTtUC3g#
            As it has this configuration Ethernet:
            LAN
            1 x Intel I219V (Gigabit LAN PHY 10/100/1000 Mb/s)
            1 x Realtek RTL8111H (PCIE x1 Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Mb/s)
            Supports Wake-On-WAN (on Realtek RTL8111H)
            Supports Wake-On-LAN
            Supports Lightning/ESD Protection (ASRock Full Spike Protection)
            Supports LAN Cable Detection (on Realtek RTL8111H)
            Supports Energy Efficient Ethernet 802.3az
            Supports PXE

            or
            https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-ga-z170n-wifi-intel-z170-socket-1151-ddr4-mini-itx-motherboard-mb-536-gi.html
            GA-Z170N-WIFI Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 Mini ITX Motherboard £109.99
            Product information

            "GA-Z170N-WIFI Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 Mini ITX Motherboard"

            Key Features

            • Supports 6th Generation Intel® Core™ Processor
            • Dual Channel DDR4, 2 DIMMs
            • Intel® USB 3.0 with USB Type-C™ - the world's next Universal connector
            • 11ac 867 Mbps dual band wireless connection + BLUETOOTH 4.2
            • PCIe Gen3 x4 M.2 Connector with up to 32Gb/s Data Transfer (PCIe NVMe & SATA SSD support)
            • 2 SATA Express Connectors for up to 16Gb/s Data Transfer
            • 115dB SNR HD Audio with Built-in Rear Audio Amplifier
            • High Quality Audio Capacitors and Audio Noise Guard with LED Trace Path Lighting
            • Dual Intel® GbE LAN with cFosSpeed Internet Accelerator Software
            • APP Center Including EasyTune™ and Cloud Station™ Utilities
            • GIGABYTE UEFI DualBIOS™ Technology
              Ethernet: LAN 2 x Intel® GbE LAN chips (10/100/1000 Mbit)

            Can I boot off a USB 2.0 dvd - r from the above configuration?

            :)

            Total cost about £257 in the UK.

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              AR15USR
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              I don't know about the boards, but if you do go with that case they have a version that has the power supply included:

              http://www.mini-box.com/M350-Enclosure-WITH-PICOPSU-150-XT-and-150W-Adapter-KIT

              2.6.0-RELEASE

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                Guest
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                @AR15USR:

                I don't know about the boards, but if you do go with that case they have a version that has the power supply included:

                http://www.mini-box.com/M350-Enclosure-WITH-PICOPSU-150-XT-and-150W-Adapter-KIT

                Yes you are right, but I am thinking then together with the chosen CPU and Board it will be getting to hot inside
                and termal problems will be there then in.

                • Dual Intel® GbE LAN with cFosSpeed Internet Accelerator Software

                I would ask before buying if that can be turned out in the BIOS if it makes problems.

                1 x Intel I219V (Gigabit LAN PHY 10/100/1000 Mb/s)

                Is supported since version 2.3

                1 x Realtek RTL8111H (PCIE x1 Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Mb/s)

                I don´t know anything about the supprt of this cards.

                To be clear and talking clear text here it would better in my eyes to settle on another platform what is really
                100% surely supported by pfSense and also running fine with more then the integrated WiFI solution that
                is not supported in pfSense now (WiFi ac) and with to new chip sets. Only my opinion but truly and frankly!
                A friend of me was assemble also a PC to run pfSense on it.

                • ASUS Q87T, mainboard ~120 € (BIOS update must be done to the latest available one)

                • CPU support
                  Intel® Core™ i7 (Haswell), Intel® Core™ i5 (Haswell), Intel® Core™ i3 (Haswell),
                  Intel® Pentium G (Haswell), Intel® Celeron G (Haswell), Intel® Xeon E3 v3 (Haswell)

                • Intel Core i3-4170 with AES-NI any cheap to get the hands on for ~110 € new and boxed with a cooler
                  (or refurbished and used for cheap and then with a new cooler too on top)

                • RAM support S0-DIMM DDR3-1600 max. 16 GB , 2 x 4 GB DDR3-1600MHz ~30 €

                • mSATA slot full lenght -  "Crucial M500 SSD 120GB, mSATA 6Gb/s (CT120M500SSD3)"  ~75 €

                • miniPCIe slot half length WiFi Atheros AR9280 new on eBay ~20 €

                • Intel Ethernet Server Adapter I350-T4 bulk ~99 € refurbished on eBay

                • Noctua NH-L9i, CPU-Kühler ~30 €

                You can easily choose other parts, but the board and the mSATA plus the WiFi card will
                be well supported under pfSense and running fine. So there will be enough space to
                adjust this with a viewing eyes on the budget, but it is 100% supported!!!!!

                Together with your case and PSU you would be built a really pfSense bomb @3,7GHz
                for the same or nearly the same price but also you gets the abillity to upgrade and update
                this appliance according to newer standards (WiFI) or other NICs like a two port one or a
                bigger storage drives (mSATA 240 GB or 480 GB), but with the focus not to take to much
                electric power.

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                  Waqar.UK
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                  So, case, ram, power supply  -all sorted out. Now which motherboard I need to get for the Pentium G4400 3.3GHz 47W HD 530 3MB Dual Core CPU?

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                    Waqar.UK
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                    Final component list:

                    motherboard
                    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-ga-z170n-wifi-intel-z170-socket-1151-ddr4-mini-itx-motherboard-mb-536-gi.html
                    GA-Z170N-WIFI Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 Mini ITX Motherboard £109.99
                    £109.99

                    "GA-Z170N-WIFI Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 Mini ITX Motherboard"

                    Key Features

                    • Supports 6th Generation Intel® Core™ Processor
                    • Dual Channel DDR4, 2 DIMMs
                    • Intel® USB 3.0 with USB Type-C™ - the world's next Universal connector
                    • 11ac 867 Mbps dual band wireless connection + BLUETOOTH 4.2
                    • PCIe Gen3 x4 M.2 Connector with up to 32Gb/s Data Transfer (PCIe NVMe & SATA SSD support)
                    • 2 SATA Express Connectors for up to 16Gb/s Data Transfer
                    • 115dB SNR HD Audio with Built-in Rear Audio Amplifier
                    • High Quality Audio Capacitors and Audio Noise Guard with LED Trace Path Lighting
                    • Dual Intel® GbE LAN with cFosSpeed Internet Accelerator Software
                    • APP Center Including EasyTune™ and Cloud Station™ Utilities
                    • GIGABYTE UEFI DualBIOS™ Technology
                      Ethernet: LAN 2 x Intel® GbE LAN chips (10/100/1000 Mbit)

                    8GB ram https://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-Memory-Module-Skylake-Compatible/dp/B00TY6A56U/ref=pd_sim_147_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=41Vkj6Q5vtL&dpSrc=sims&preST=AC_UL160_SR160%2C160&refRID=1ZHT6AXH35GQD7TNT6HT    £29.80  single stick of 8GB RAM or 2 sticks of 4GB RAM?

                    6th Gen Pentium G4400 3.3GHz 47W HD 530 3MB Dual Core CPU
                    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Pentium-Dual-Core-G4400-Processor/dp/B015VPX05A/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1461686680&sr=1-1&keywords=Pentium+G4400 £53.97

                    first try with a 80 GB spinner or if that is too noisy then the 120 GB SSD.

                    Power supply then as I like the wattage & company
                    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Quiet-300W-Power-Supply/dp/B00DBHMJRQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1461349788&sr=1-2&keywords=350w+psu  £35.77
                    Be Quiet L8 300W Pure Power Supply Unit

                    case https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thermaltake-Core-Mini-Cube-Case/dp/B00MJSV9Y2/ref=pd_cp_147_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=WZT6TZF0946JACBGP13T £35.49

                    Kingston 120GB hyper X  -already bought for £30

                    £295.02

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                      Waqar.UK
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                      Anyone can help me please?  :)

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                        Waqar.UK
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                        No one can help me?  :'(

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                          edwardwong
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                          Why don't you consider the Supermicro C2758 ITX motherboard? onboard 4 x Intel LAN, and the processing power is definitely higher compared with G4400 (under multithreaded environment), less heat, less power consumption, solid for mission critical applications as well as you can build it in a small form factor. If you don't do something like HAVP, you can get a even cheaper C2558 and do the job.

                          Realtek 8111 series chip is working under pfSense 2.3, but as I saw in other forum, the default stock firmware /driver coming along with FreeBSD is no good, you probably will see at most 700Mbps throughput by using this chip.

                          Or if you insist on using Pentium G4400 or something similar, better look for server mobo like Asrock E3C236D2I.

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                            Waqar.UK
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                            @edwardwong:

                            Why don't you consider the Supermicro C2758 ITX motherboard? onboard 4 x Intel LAN, and the processing power is definitely higher compared with G4400 (under multithreaded environment), less heat, less power consumption, solid for mission critical applications as well as you can build it in a small form factor. If you don't do something like HAVP, you can get a even cheaper C2558 and do the job.

                            Realtek 8111 series chip is working under pfSense 2.3, but as I saw in other forum, the default stock firmware /driver coming along with FreeBSD is no good, you probably will see at most 700Mbps throughput by using this chip.

                            Or if you insist on using Pentium G4400 or something similar, better look for server mobo like Asrock E3C236D2I.

                            Supermicro C2758
                            &
                            ASRock Intel Xeon E3 E3C236D2I Mini ITX Server Motherboard
                            https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asrock-e3c236d2i-intel-c236-s1151-ddr4-sata3-6gbps-m2-(pcie-sata)-dual-intel-gbe-lan-mgmt-lan-usb-30 both far too expensive
                            but
                            https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-ga-z170n-wifi-intel-z170-socket-1151-ddr4-mini-itx-motherboard-mb-536-gi.html a viable solution? As I have chosen the cpu, case, power supply but can I use a single stick of 8GB ram? Or do I have to use 2 by 4GB RAM sticks?

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                              edwardwong
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                              Using 2x4GB dual channel probably a better idea.

                              BTW, what is the system requirement? Pentium G4400 is also not a very powerful processor, going for embedded one would be a better idea since you can save space, and reduce heat….

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                                Waqar.UK
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                                @edwardwong:

                                Using 2x4GB dual channel probably a better idea.

                                BTW, what is the system requirement? Pentium G4400 is also not a very powerful processor, going for embedded one would be a better idea since you can save space, and reduce heat….

                                I am posting for a friend who will is very close to getting a job abroad where gigabit Internet is common.

                                So which embedded one is recommended?

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