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      lhock98
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      i am using the 1G fiber internet nowadays really can't hit 1000M, when just sign up able to reach 850-950 easy easy.

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        Guest
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        i am using the 1G fiber Internet nowadays really can't hit 1000M, when just sign up able to reach 850-950 easy easy.

        Hitting exactly 1000 MBit/s would be worth and in my eyes unreachable for you! And this is pending on many
        more things then only a "you don´t get it right" call.

        1.
        Hitting 1000 MBit/s is like ~940 MBit/s

        • TCP/IP overhead
        • time for passing NAT and performing out firewall rules
          (or narrowing down the entire throughput)

        2.
        The Internet speed test server is in my eyes not a real test that can be easily repeated by all other users.
        Please use iPerf or NetIO and then with a client PC as server and a client PC as client through the pfSense.

        The J1900 is from Q4/2013 and be sure not server grade, and so if you get anything nearly
        1000 MBit/s you should be lucky if not, it can also be based on another point. (4)

        On the pfSense website was announced:
        501+ Mbps - Multiple cores at > 2.0GHz are required. Server class hardware with PCI-e network adapters.

        If you are using PPPoE for your Internet connection only one CPU (SoC) core will be in usage!
        And so the full potential of your J1900 SoC will not be unleashed or used for the WAN speed too.

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          dreamslacker
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          @lhock98:

          i am using the 1G fiber internet nowadays really can't hit 1000M, when just sign up able to reach 850-950 easy easy.

          Might be the timing. Stinkhell's oversubscription ratio is relatively high.

          Try other servers - Telin, SGIX, or NME (if available).

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            lhock98
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            before i changed to this new 4ports intel j1900 i was using the tyan s3115 mainboard its comes with dual core 1.6 atom cpu and dual giga ethernet port that time was using the ddwrt x86 version also running very well till one day the ethernet stop to work.

            @BlueKobol <br:< small="">> > i am using the 1G fiber Internet nowadays really can't hit 1000M, when just sign up able to reach 850-950 easy easy.

            Hitting exactly 1000 MBit/s would be worth and in my eyes unreachable for you! And this is pending on many
            more things then only a "you don´t get it right" call.

            1.
            Hitting 1000 MBit/s is like ~940 MBit/s

            • TCP/IP overhead
            • time for passing NAT and performing out firewall rules
              (or narrowing down the entire throughput)

            2.
            The Internet speed test server is in my eyes not a real test that can be easily repeated by all other users.
            Please use iPerf or NetIO and then with a client PC as server and a client PC as client through the pfSense.

            The J1900 is from Q4/2013 and be sure not server grade, and so if you get anything nearly
            1000 MBit/s you should be lucky if not, it can also be based on another point. (4)

            On the pfSense website was announced:
            501+ Mbps - Multiple cores at > 2.0GHz are required. Server class hardware with PCI-e network adapters.

            If you are using PPPoE for your Internet connection only one CPU (SoC) core will be in usage!
            And so the full potential of your J1900 SoC will not be unleashed or used for the WAN speed too.</br:<>

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              lhock98
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              guys,

              just got time to test and got the result as below.

              –----------------------------------------------------------------
              IP :192.168.2.3 in server mode and connected to LAN port
              Processsor: Intel i7-860
              Mainboard: Asus p55 sabertooth
              OS: Windows 7 (desktop PC)
              Memory: 8gb ddr3
              Ethernet controller: Realtek RTL8168D/8111D

              IP :192.168.3.4 in Client mode and connected to OPT1 port
              OS: Windows XP (Toshiba Satellite laptop)
              Memory: 4gb ddr2
              Ethernet controller: Intel giga ethernet LAN

              IP :192.168.2.4 in Client mode and connected to OPT2 port
              Processor: Intel C2D Q6600
              Mainboard: MSI G41-P43 combo
              OS: Windows 7 (desktop PC)
              Memory: 4gb ddr3
              Ethernet controller: Realtek 8111E

              @dreamslacker:

              @lhock98:

              is this the output result you want?my pfsense run as a server, pc as a client

              Nope.

              What you need to do is hook up a computer to one of the bridged ports as a server (or client).

              Then test iperf from another computer connected to another of the bridged ports (can be through a switch).

              What you want to do is to test the performance when the traffic flows across pfSense from 2 of the bridged ports to determine if there is an impact to the throughput (there ought to be for this class of equipment).

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                rustydreamcast
                last edited by

                just seen these on aliexpress

                tempted for the price

                what are they like with VPN running inbound and out ?

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                  lhock98
                  last edited by

                  @rustydreamcast:

                  just seen these on aliexpress

                  tempted for the price

                  which country are you from?

                  what are they like with VPN running inbound and out ?

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                    rustydreamcast
                    last edited by

                    Nice to be seen / quoted but can you please answer what is it like running vpn server

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                      lhock98
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                      @rustydreamcast:

                      Nice to be seen / quoted but can you please answer what is it like running vpn server

                      i don't run vpn server at present moment.

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                        edwardwong
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                        192.168.3.4 -> 192.168.2.3 is NAT, right? That's too slow isn't it?
                        And I assume 192.168.2.3 -> 192.168.2.4 is connecting thru bridge? To me it's still too slow, if you try to do it with a normal GbE switch there should be a much better performance, and that's why most people here not recommending "bridging LAN ports just for switching purpose"

                        @lhock98:

                        guys,

                        just got time to test and got the result as below.

                        –----------------------------------------------------------------
                        IP :192.168.2.3 in server mode and connected to LAN port
                        Processsor: Intel i7-860
                        Mainboard: Asus p55 sabertooth
                        OS: Windows 7 (desktop PC)
                        Memory: 8gb ddr3
                        Ethernet controller: Realtek RTL8168D/8111D

                        IP :192.168.3.4 in Client mode and connected to OPT1 port
                        OS: Windows XP (Toshiba Satellite laptop)
                        Memory: 4gb ddr2
                        Ethernet controller: Intel giga ethernet LAN

                        IP :192.168.2.4 in Client mode and connected to OPT2 port
                        Processor: Intel C2D Q6600
                        Mainboard: MSI G41-P43 combo
                        OS: Windows 7 (desktop PC)
                        Memory: 4gb ddr3
                        Ethernet controller: Realtek 8111E

                        @dreamslacker:

                        @lhock98:

                        is this the output result you want?my pfsense run as a server, pc as a client

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                          lhock98
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                          192.168.2.4 (OPT1) and 192.168.3.4 (OPT2) bridged to 192.168.2.3 (LAN). yeap total agree with you speed drop alot.

                          @edwardwong:

                          192.168.3.4 -> 192.168.2.3 is NAT, right? That's too slow isn't it?
                          And I assume 192.168.2.3 -> 192.168.2.4 is connecting thru bridge? To me it's still too slow, if you try to do it with a normal GbE switch there should be a much better performance, and that's why most people here not recommending "bridging LAN ports just for switching purpose"

                          @lhock98:

                          guys,

                          just got time to test and got the result as below.

                          –----------------------------------------------------------------
                          IP :192.168.2.3 in server mode and connected to LAN port
                          Processsor: Intel i7-860
                          Mainboard: Asus p55 sabertooth
                          OS: Windows 7 (desktop PC)
                          Memory: 8gb ddr3
                          Ethernet controller: Realtek RTL8168D/8111D

                          IP :192.168.3.4 in Client mode and connected to OPT1 port
                          OS: Windows XP (Toshiba Satellite laptop)
                          Memory: 4gb ddr2
                          Ethernet controller: Intel giga ethernet LAN

                          IP :192.168.2.4 in Client mode and connected to OPT2 port
                          Processor: Intel C2D Q6600
                          Mainboard: MSI G41-P43 combo
                          OS: Windows 7 (desktop PC)
                          Memory: 4gb ddr3
                          Ethernet controller: Realtek 8111E

                          @dreamslacker:

                          @lhock98:

                          is this the output result you want?my pfsense run as a server, pc as a client

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                            edwardwong
                            last edited by

                            So this might be matching with what I mentioned before: The manufacturer is trying to put all devices together on same PCI-e lane, as a result the 2 ethernet cards are unable to run at full speed simultaneously, I owned another board which is industrial grade (Jetway N2930), claimed for networking purpose, and mine can do 940Mbps WAN-LAN NAT, and the PCI-e configuration could be an important factor.

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                              lhock98
                              last edited by

                              i suspect might be my laptop ethernet.card driver issuse.
                              so to say that if i connected to a giga swith the output result should be better, right.

                              @edwardwong:

                              So this might be matching with what I mentioned before: The manufacturer is trying to put all devices together on same PCI-e lane, as a result the 2 ethernet cards are unable to run at full speed simultaneously, I owned another board which is industrial grade (Jetway N2930), claimed for networking purpose, and mine can do 940Mbps WAN-LAN NAT, and the PCI-e configuration could be an important factor.

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                                dreamslacker
                                last edited by

                                @lhock98:

                                i suspect might be my laptop ethernet.card driver issuse.
                                so to say that if i connected to a giga swith the output result should be better, right.

                                Did you enable any traffic shaping or limiters on the box?

                                The disparity in the results seems too large and the J1900 most certainly can do firewalling/ routing beyond 500mbps at the very least.

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                                  lhock98
                                  last edited by

                                  no, i did not. something is fishy. i need to do some more test to comfirm the result.

                                  @dreamslacker:

                                  @lhock98:

                                  i suspect might be my laptop ethernet.card driver issuse.
                                  so to say that if i connected to a giga swith the output result should be better, right.

                                  Did you enable any traffic shaping or limiters on the box?

                                  The disparity in the results seems too large and the J1900 most certainly can do firewalling/ routing beyond 500mbps at the very least.

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                                    santigua
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                                    There is a very similar machine:

                                    Jetway JBC375F533W
                                    Jetway Site: http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/JBC375F533.html
                                    Shop: http://www.cartft.com/catalog/il/2000

                                    The "W" is for the wireless/wifi version, there is also one without the "W" and hence no wifi.

                                    In general a nice device, 4x GBit LAN, pretty compact, enough power for any SOHO I would say, and two slots inside for expansion.

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                                      lhock98
                                      last edited by

                                      the 2 link you mentioned the cpu onboard is the same with mine, only that the ethernet controller is different should be better that mine.

                                      @santigua:

                                      There is a very similar machine:

                                      Jetway JBC375F533W
                                      Jetway Site: http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/JBC375F533.html
                                      Shop: http://www.cartft.com/catalog/il/2000

                                      The "W" is for the wireless/wifi version, there is also one without the "W" and hence no wifi.

                                      In general a nice device, 4x GBit LAN, pretty compact, enough power for any SOHO I would say, and two slots inside for expansion.

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                                        TD22057
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                                        For anyone else looking at these, here is another option.  Same processor (J1900), same 4 port Intel NIC (82583V), slightly different layout and case.  I've seen good reviews from people running that model w/ pfSense on amazon and redit.  I ordered one of these last week but haven't received it yet.  J1900, 4 port Intel NIC, 8 GB RAM, 64 GB SSD for $225 delivered (I bought the RAM and SSD on Amazon).

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                                          lhock98
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                                          if you can read chinese i might a good place to get from here https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c-s.w4002-14608441056.39.QL1CPU&id=37328846799..

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                                            TD22057
                                            last edited by

                                            @TD22057:

                                            For anyone else looking at these, here is another option.  Same processor (J1900), same 4 port Intel NIC (82583V), slightly different layout and case.  I've seen good reviews from people running that model w/ pfSense on amazon and redit.  I ordered one of these last week but haven't received it yet.  J1900, 4 port Intel NIC, 8 GB RAM, 64 GB SSD for $225 delivered (I bought the RAM and SSD on Amazon).

                                            I can report that this version works fine.  Installed 2.3.1, detected everything correctly, runs nicely.  The CPU's are hot, 50 C (which is way below intel's spec of 107c but it's warmer than I would like).  Enabled High-D w/ adaptive mode but that doesn't change the temp at all (though power usage should be lower).  There is a thread here about possible ways to get the freq even lower which may also help.  I haven't put a power meter on it yet to see what the electricity usage is.  I may put a 120mm case fan to blow air across it to help reduce the temp.

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