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    Need help choosing between these two switches!

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    • jahonixJ
      jahonix
      last edited by

      @NEK4TE:

      Is the the model you guys are recommending?

      Yes if you don't need PoE.

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        dmurphynj
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        @mattlach:

        I've had great experiences with HP Procurve switches.  My current 1810G-24 has been a real trooper.  I have a lifetime overnight replacement warranty on it, but I don't need it because it's never come even close to having a problem.

        If you don't need a 24 port switch, they come in 8 port varieties as well (I have one of these too) and they are great.

        I will completely echo this.  My entire home LAN has HP switches throughout.  I have an 1810g-8, an 1810-24g, and the core switch is an HP 1920-24g-poe+.

        Fantastic gear, all works tremendously well for my purposes.

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          damir
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          Friend of mine is recommending me to get:  DGS-1100-16 (D-Link) (he has been using it now with his pfSense setup / similar to what i will be doing, without any issue, he says)

          Any thoughts on this? Its cheaper then most of the recommended models.

          However, i will not be doing anything crazy, few VLAN, Probably Link Aggregation (2Ports) with QNAP and maybe few ports Jumbo Frames.

          Please advise

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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
            last edited by

            The SG300-28 is a Layer 3 switch for $250.

            I have used those DGS-1100 units for some small jobs. They seem to do as they're told.

            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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              damir
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              Big thanks for responding sir.

              My concern about this switch is: 802.3ad Link Aggregation

              I am still deciding between 16 and 24 port.

              I just found a review @ newegg:
              http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127356CVF&cm_re=DGS-1100-24--33-127-356CVF--Product

              " Cons: No IEEE 802.3ad Dynamic link aggregation support. Hardware version A1. The switch is small, it could be mounted in the rack but will be site in the middle, I was expecting a full size Cisco switch. The switch looks more like desktop switch than a rack mountable switch. "

              After checking @ : http://ca.dlink.com/products/business-solutions/easysmart-16-port-gigabit-switch/
              It shows:
              • 802.3ad Link Aggregation
                  • 1 group, 2-4 ports per group (DGS-1100-05)
                  • 2 groups, 2-4 ports per group (DGS-1100-08/-08P)
                  • 5 groups, 8 ports per group (DGS-1100-10MP)
                  • 8 groups, 8 ports per group (DGS-1100-16)
                  • 12 groups, 8 ports per group (DGS-1100-24/-24P)
                  • 13 groups, 8 ports per group (DGS-1100-26MP)

              The reason i am making sure this switch covers it, is:
              https://www.qnap.com/i/en/tutorial/con_show.php?op=showone&cid=216

              If any1 could advise about this as well, i would really appreciate it.

              Thanks

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              • DerelictD
                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                last edited by

                I didn't use .ad in my implementation. I can say it works fine on the SG300. The docs say its supported, so be sure to get the version that it's supported on.

                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                  damir
                  last edited by

                  Thank you again for fast response.

                  I will do some more re-search, as well contact D-Link in the morning.

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                  • ?
                    Guest
                    last edited by

                    The Cisco SG300 series will be really a nice one and if your QNAP supports an 10 GbE card upgrade
                    the D-Link DGS1510 series will be nice too.

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                      damir
                      last edited by

                      Thanks for responding.

                      Is there any similar mode to this: Cisco SRW2008-K9-NA SG300-10 , which comes with few ports more? covering all features?

                      All 10 ports on this switch can be used regularly for VLAN's etc?

                      even these 2?:

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                        Guest
                        last edited by

                        Is there any similar mode to this:

                        Is this a typo and you mean perhaps model?

                        Cisco SRW2008-K9-NA SG300-10 , which comes with few ports more? covering all features?

                        D-Link DGS1510-20 its a 20 port switch and also a layer3 one, but with 2 SFP and 2 SFP+ ports.

                        All 10 ports on this switch can be used regularly for VLAN's etc?

                        Yes, but eight ports are regular ports, and the other 4 are so called combo ports you can only
                        use the two RJ45 ones or the SFP ports!!!

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                          damir
                          last edited by

                          Thanks for responding.

                          yes, i meant "model" (sorry about that) - 16 - 20 ports, for example, i do not care about POE ports at this time.

                          so, i can use regular ports (8 ports) + 2 (combo ports) in total of 10 ports for my home network needs?

                          Meaning, when i use RJ45 ports, SFP ports can't be used (and other way around, if SFP ports are used RJ45 can't be used?)

                          Would i be able for Link Aggregation to use, lets say, port 6 (from regular ports) and one RJ45 from Combo Ports?

                          (I apologize for bothering so much, just, making sure this switch does what i am planing to do - and it is actually more money then what i was going to spend :) )

                          Once again, thanks for all inputs/responses/help/recommendations.

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                          • DerelictD
                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                            last edited by

                            Yes but it is one port at a time. I think it generally works that if there is an SFP module inserted the corresponding copper port is disabled.

                            If you are willing to accept a 20-port you should probably just look at the SG300-28.

                            I don't know why you don't just look here:

                            http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/switches/small-business-300-series-managed-switches/tsd-products-support-series-home.html

                            (Look at that, there is a 16+4-port version)

                            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                              damir
                              last edited by

                              Thanks for responding.

                              SG300-28/SG300-20, would work, definitely, but, way, way over the budget.

                              Does this make sense / can work like this?

                              Also, as i am just about to order this switch, are there any  different hardware revisions, or anything i should be careful of when purchasing?
                              (For example some D-Link / Netgear, etc routers, they have Hardware Rev.A , Rev.B, etc.) - so, not sure if this Cisco SG300-10 switch has something like that too.

                              Thank you all for your time.

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                              • DerelictD
                                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                last edited by

                                Yes.

                                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                  damir
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks!!

                                  Ordered :)

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                                    damir
                                    last edited by

                                    I am just doing some more research (even though i placed an order, i can still cancel it / return it).

                                    What about: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7RD3ZG0397&cm_re=cisco_managed--33-150-120--Product

                                    Cisco Small Business 200 Series SLM2016T-NA (SG200-18) Smart Gigabit Switch

                                    This thing is about $70 more here in Canada, but, it comes with 18 ports instead of 10 with SG300-10

                                    Thanks

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                                      damir
                                      last edited by

                                      After some re-search SG200 is Layer 2 only, where SG300 is Layer 2 and 3, is that correct?

                                      With pfSense acting as a router, all i need is Layer 2 actually, then?

                                      So, in that case, this switch SG200-18 would be a good choice as well?

                                      Thanks!

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                                      • DerelictD
                                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                        last edited by

                                        SG200 does not have a CLI.

                                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                                        • ?
                                          Guest
                                          last edited by

                                          After some re-search SG200 is Layer 2 only, where SG300 is Layer 2 and 3, is that correct?

                                          That is definitely correct, the SG300 is a Layer3 and the SG200 is a Layer2 switch! And the Layer3 switch is
                                          better performing in some cases, has more features and options and can surely also set to only acting as a
                                          Layer2 switch if needed. But the Layer3 switch is capable to route between the VLANs itself and this mostly
                                          with wire speed and its freeing the entire pfSense box from that load.

                                          With pfSense acting as a router, all i need is Layer 2 actually, then?

                                          This could also really nice matching, but mostly it depends on the used CPU and how powerful
                                          that CPU or SoC will be!

                                          So, in that case, this switch SG200-18 would be a good choice as well?

                                          This is pending on the needs and use case mostly, but related to the price range from todays
                                          switches, the Cisco SG300 series and the D-Link DGS1510 series will be perform better then
                                          many other switches compared to the given options and features in their firmware.

                                          SG200 does not have a CLI.

                                          Yes that is right.

                                          If your pfSense box is really strong sorted or really powerful you could go with an SG200 for sure
                                          but if you need VLANs to be routet in wire speed and will free a perhaps smaller CPU from that load
                                          the SG300 as Layer3 switch could be a really nice device too.

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                                            damir
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                                            Thank you both for responding.

                                            CLI is something that i really did not need, that is way 2 complicated for me :)

                                            I was planing on using only Layer 2 with my pfSense, (again) as my knowledge is not that advanced to cover both Layer 2 and Layer 3.

                                            Right now, i have Core2Duo handling my Gigabit (940mbit) (down) and 50mbit (up) connection just fine, with about 40-45% (CPU Usage while performing speedtests).

                                            I am planing on purchasing C2758 (with 8-16GB Ram soon) for pfSense.

                                            That is why i am shopping for best possible switch (for my needs) (VLAN (not more then 5 VLAN's) Link Aggregation, mostly) in the price range of $250-350CAD.

                                            Cisco SG 300-20 is $400CAD (+13% tax)
                                            Cisco SG 200-18 is $285CAD (+13% tax)

                                            so, i am thinking is it worth spending additional $115 for Layer 3, that i am not sure if i will be using :/

                                            and i paid SG300-10 $220CAD (+13% tax) (which will be canceled in the morning, actually) as now, i have to decide between SG300-20 and SG-200-18.

                                            Again, thank you all!

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