Need help choosing between these two switches!
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Thank you again for fast response.
I will do some more re-search, as well contact D-Link in the morning.
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The Cisco SG300 series will be really a nice one and if your QNAP supports an 10 GbE card upgrade
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Thanks for responding.
Is there any similar mode to this: Cisco SRW2008-K9-NA SG300-10 , which comes with few ports more? covering all features?
All 10 ports on this switch can be used regularly for VLAN's etc?
even these 2?:
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Is there any similar mode to this:
Is this a typo and you mean perhaps model?
Cisco SRW2008-K9-NA SG300-10 , which comes with few ports more? covering all features?
D-Link DGS1510-20 its a 20 port switch and also a layer3 one, but with 2 SFP and 2 SFP+ ports.
All 10 ports on this switch can be used regularly for VLAN's etc?
Yes, but eight ports are regular ports, and the other 4 are so called combo ports you can only
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Thanks for responding.
yes, i meant "model" (sorry about that) - 16 - 20 ports, for example, i do not care about POE ports at this time.
so, i can use regular ports (8 ports) + 2 (combo ports) in total of 10 ports for my home network needs?
Meaning, when i use RJ45 ports, SFP ports can't be used (and other way around, if SFP ports are used RJ45 can't be used?)
Would i be able for Link Aggregation to use, lets say, port 6 (from regular ports) and one RJ45 from Combo Ports?
(I apologize for bothering so much, just, making sure this switch does what i am planing to do - and it is actually more money then what i was going to spend :) )
Once again, thanks for all inputs/responses/help/recommendations.
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Yes but it is one port at a time. I think it generally works that if there is an SFP module inserted the corresponding copper port is disabled.
If you are willing to accept a 20-port you should probably just look at the SG300-28.
I don't know why you don't just look here:
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/switches/small-business-300-series-managed-switches/tsd-products-support-series-home.html
(Look at that, there is a 16+4-port version)
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Thanks for responding.
SG300-28/SG300-20, would work, definitely, but, way, way over the budget.
Does this make sense / can work like this?
Also, as i am just about to order this switch, are there any different hardware revisions, or anything i should be careful of when purchasing?
(For example some D-Link / Netgear, etc routers, they have Hardware Rev.A , Rev.B, etc.) - so, not sure if this Cisco SG300-10 switch has something like that too.Thank you all for your time.
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Yes.
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Thanks!!
Ordered :)
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I am just doing some more research (even though i placed an order, i can still cancel it / return it).
What about: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7RD3ZG0397&cm_re=cisco_managed--33-150-120--Product
Cisco Small Business 200 Series SLM2016T-NA (SG200-18) Smart Gigabit Switch
This thing is about $70 more here in Canada, but, it comes with 18 ports instead of 10 with SG300-10
Thanks
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After some re-search SG200 is Layer 2 only, where SG300 is Layer 2 and 3, is that correct?
With pfSense acting as a router, all i need is Layer 2 actually, then?
So, in that case, this switch SG200-18 would be a good choice as well?
Thanks!
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SG200 does not have a CLI.
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After some re-search SG200 is Layer 2 only, where SG300 is Layer 2 and 3, is that correct?
That is definitely correct, the SG300 is a Layer3 and the SG200 is a Layer2 switch! And the Layer3 switch is
better performing in some cases, has more features and options and can surely also set to only acting as a
Layer2 switch if needed. But the Layer3 switch is capable to route between the VLANs itself and this mostly
with wire speed and its freeing the entire pfSense box from that load.With pfSense acting as a router, all i need is Layer 2 actually, then?
This could also really nice matching, but mostly it depends on the used CPU and how powerful
that CPU or SoC will be!So, in that case, this switch SG200-18 would be a good choice as well?
This is pending on the needs and use case mostly, but related to the price range from todays
switches, the Cisco SG300 series and the D-Link DGS1510 series will be perform better then
many other switches compared to the given options and features in their firmware.SG200 does not have a CLI.
Yes that is right.
If your pfSense box is really strong sorted or really powerful you could go with an SG200 for sure
but if you need VLANs to be routet in wire speed and will free a perhaps smaller CPU from that load
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Thank you both for responding.
CLI is something that i really did not need, that is way 2 complicated for me :)
I was planing on using only Layer 2 with my pfSense, (again) as my knowledge is not that advanced to cover both Layer 2 and Layer 3.
Right now, i have Core2Duo handling my Gigabit (940mbit) (down) and 50mbit (up) connection just fine, with about 40-45% (CPU Usage while performing speedtests).
I am planing on purchasing C2758 (with 8-16GB Ram soon) for pfSense.
That is why i am shopping for best possible switch (for my needs) (VLAN (not more then 5 VLAN's) Link Aggregation, mostly) in the price range of $250-350CAD.
Cisco SG 300-20 is $400CAD (+13% tax)
Cisco SG 200-18 is $285CAD (+13% tax)so, i am thinking is it worth spending additional $115 for Layer 3, that i am not sure if i will be using :/
and i paid SG300-10 $220CAD (+13% tax) (which will be canceled in the morning, actually) as now, i have to decide between SG300-20 and SG-200-18.
Again, thank you all!
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Reflect on your actual needs.
If you don't need the L3 routing on the switch now, chances are slim you would in the next couple of years, and your pfSense can do all the routing(L3) for the vlans(L2) anyway so you will be fine with a L2 model. (Things get complicated fast if you are not comfortable with L3 concepts)my 2 cents…
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I use d-link switch here.
Dgs1510-28x for 10GBit connections between the nas units. Tested it with copy speed between the Nas units of 880MB/sec for 22 TB.For the connection to the ISP a d-link dsg1210-16 that is used for splitting the vlans from ISP (internet, voice over ip, television over ip) where voice over ip still goes to isp box as this is needed.
Both video over ip and internet go into pfsense unit.For my ip cameras i have d-link dsg1210-08p with poe support.
There are trunks between the switches and also to the access points which can do more vlans.
Only issue i found is on the 1510-28 where sometime the uplink to the dgs-1210-16 freezes.
This happend also when connected to the isp box and an a dgs-1100-8 is used before.
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Thank you for responding guys.
Well, after more re-search, i ended up thinking that i might be interested in Layer 3 switch, actually.
I created a new thread in " Routing and Multi WAN " section, as i did not want to ruin this excellent thread which provides a lots of useful information.
Just cancelled order for SG300-10, so, in the end it will be either SG300-20 or SG200-18.
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It's only a switch. And you're not looking into the $1k or $10k range.
Do not use the SG200 if you want to use VLANs since they are set up way easier from the CLI (which the SG200 doesn't have). CLI isn't complicated, just get used to it. The beauty comes with ease of use.
Your decision to go with a 20-port switch is great if you already plan on using all 10 ports of the smaller version. There's always one port missing.
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Thanks for responding.
More and more i am getting interested in Layer 3 / CLI, after talking to you guys.
This is why 99% it will be SG300-20.However, i just need some clarifications in my thread: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=113243.0
So, i can make the final decision :)
Once again, thank you ALL for input/help, very much appreciated.
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@NEK4TE:
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... need some clarifications ...
... make the final decision...You are overcomplicating things.
It's only a switch for a home network, not for a nuclear plant.If it doesn't fit in 2 years or so then sell it (on eBay or such) and get a different one.
For now just trust what you read here numerous times: buy an SG300-20.
Start reading the CLI guide. That's time spent way better!
