Beta test of new NUT UPS package

dennypage

Yes, that makes much more sense, and what I was expecting to see.

Removing the ampersand was a testing item to ensure I understood what was happening on your system. I wasn't intending to remove it from the production package as it is required to support the startup retry.

The thing that I fixed was the service status issue (the restart vs start button at the top). The "Failed to retrieve status" is kind of a fact of life because it is taking a very long time to initialize via SNMP. About the only thing that I could do about that is to have it report "pending", but then you would still have to press refresh in the page because the UI pages don't auto-refresh.

w0w

Hmm… startup retry? Why do we need that?

Without ampersand, all working.


 Aug 2 09:35:23 	upsd 	5793 	User monuser@::1 logged into UPS [SMK-1000A]
Aug 2 09:35:23 	upsd 	5793 	Startup successful
Aug 2 09:35:23 	upsd 	5467 	Connected to UPS [SMK-1000A]: snmp-ups-SMK-1000A
Aug 2 09:35:23 	upsd 	5467 	listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493
Aug 2 09:35:23 	upsd 	5467 	listening on ::1 port 3493
Aug 2 09:35:21 	snmp-ups 	5221 	Startup successful
Aug 2 09:35:14 	upsmon 	3642 	Startup successful
Aug 2 09:35:14 	snmp-ups 	49799 	Signal 15: exiting
Aug 2 09:35:14 	upsd 	64420 	Signal 15: exiting
Aug 2 09:35:14 	upsd 	64420 	mainloop: Interrupted system call
Aug 2 09:35:14 	upsd 	64420 	User monuser@::1 logged out from UPS [SMK-1000A]
Aug 2 09:35:14 	upsmon 	48594 	Signal 15: exiting

With ampersand (Failed to retrieve status)


Aug 2 09:39:33 	upsmon 	96136 	Communications with UPS SMK-1000A established
Aug 2 09:39:30 	upsd 	96547 	Connected to UPS [SMK-1000A]: snmp-ups-SMK-1000A
Aug 2 09:39:29 	snmp-ups 	97935 	Startup successful
Aug 2 09:39:28 	upsmon 	96136 	UPS SMK-1000A is unavailable
Aug 2 09:39:28 	upsmon 	96136 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
Aug 2 09:39:23 	upsmon 	96136 	Communications with UPS SMK-1000A lost
Aug 2 09:39:23 	upsmon 	96136 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
Aug 2 09:39:23 	upsd 	96547 	User monuser@::1 logged into UPS [SMK-1000A]
Aug 2 09:39:21 	upsd 	96547 	Startup successful
Aug 2 09:39:21 	upsd 	96511 	Can't connect to UPS [SMK-1000A] (snmp-ups-SMK-1000A): No such file or directory
Aug 2 09:39:21 	upsd 	96511 	listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493
Aug 2 09:39:21 	upsd 	96511 	listening on ::1 port 3493
Aug 2 09:39:20 	upsmon 	95585 	Startup successful
Aug 2 09:39:20 	snmp-ups 	5221 	Signal 15: exiting
Aug 2 09:39:20 	upsd 	5793 	Signal 15: exiting
Aug 2 09:39:20 	upsd 	5793 	mainloop: Interrupted system call
Aug 2 09:39:20 	upsd 	5793 	User monuser@::1 logged out from UPS [SMK-1000A]
Aug 2 09:39:20 	upsmon 	4091 	Signal 15: exiting

w0w

Looks like this "retry" thing not working at all with SNMP connection, just causes it to re-establish twice.

w0w

Increased sleep
….......................................................
/usr/local/sbin/upsdrvctl start &
sleep 12
/usr/local/sbin/upsd -u root
..........................................................


Aug 2 09:49:14 	upsd 	31334 	User monuser@::1 logged into UPS [SMK-1000A]
Aug 2 09:49:13 	upsd 	31334 	Startup successful
Aug 2 09:49:13 	upsd 	31056 	Connected to UPS [SMK-1000A]: snmp-ups-SMK-1000A
Aug 2 09:49:13 	upsd 	31056 	listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493
Aug 2 09:49:13 	upsd 	31056 	listening on ::1 port 3493
Aug 2 09:49:12 	snmp-ups 	30987 	Startup successful
Aug 2 09:49:01 	upsmon 	9616 	Startup successful
Aug 2 09:49:01 	snmp-ups 	6655 	Signal 15: exiting
Aug 2 09:49:01 	upsd 	7053 	Signal 15: exiting
Aug 2 09:49:01 	upsd 	7053 	mainloop: Interrupted system call
Aug 2 09:49:01 	upsd 	7053 	User monuser@::1 logged out from UPS [SMK-1000A]
Aug 2 09:49:01 	upsmon 	5726 	Signal 15: exiting

Is it OK for you?

dennypage

@w0w:

Hmm… startup retry? Why do we need that?

It was requested: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=114871.msg638897#msg638897

It's necessary to address the case of the ups being unreachable at pfSense startup.

w0w

I am sorry :'(, but may be I have tested it in wrong way. If I unplug SNMP card from the network and then restart the service — it does not reconnects to the UPS. All I get in logs is


endless....
Aug 2 10:22:46 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
Aug 2 10:22:41 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
Aug 2 10:22:36 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
Aug 2 10:22:31 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
Aug 2 10:22:26 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
Aug 2 10:22:21 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
Aug 2 10:22:16 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
Aug 2 10:22:11 	upsmon 	50160 	UPS SMK-1000A is unavailable

Looks like it does not matter sleep 1 or 12 is applied.

dennypage

Do you still have maxretry and retrydelay in the advanced section?

https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=114871.msg640123#msg640123

You should be seeing a stream of messages from the snmp driver…

@w0w:

If I unplug SNMP card from the network and then restart the service — it does not reconnects to the UPS. All I get in logs is


endless....
Aug 2 10:22:46 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
Aug 2 10:22:41 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
Aug 2 10:22:36 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
Aug 2 10:22:31 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
Aug 2 10:22:26 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
Aug 2 10:22:21 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
Aug 2 10:22:16 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
Aug 2 10:22:11 	upsmon 	50160 	UPS SMK-1000A is unavailable

w0w

Double checked my setup and config and found that I am an idiot.
maxretry=60
retrydelay=60
was placed into upsmon.conf instead of ups.conf
I have removed both ampersand and sleep from nut.sh
Testing again

w0w

Looks like all working without ampersand and sleep.
But when ampersand removed it takes a while to load status page with disconnected UPS ;).
So I ask you again, is it OK for you if sleep would be 12 seconds instead of 1?
With this value all seems OK on my side. Reconnection after SNMP down and service restart with SNMP online on status page is OK. No issues currently!

dennypage

I really can't do a 12 second sleep in service start. The 95% case is that UPS startup takes well under 1 second. An additional delay in service start affects everyone and everything including system startup (boot). Introducing a 10+ second delay to system startup would not be generally acceptable. It also creates a situation in which there can be multiple service starts underway at the same time, which can result in all sorts of problems with nut. And of course, 12 seconds works in this specific case, but what happens when a case comes along that requires 20 seconds for UPS initialization?

The backgrounding for driver start is required to support initialization retries. Without backgrounding, status page load (and system startup) will hang until driver initilization completes. With the maxretry/retrydelay example previously posted, this could be 1 hour. Note that maxretry/retrydelay only affects driver initialization (startup). It does not affect disconnect/reconnect.

About the only thing I can do is have the status be "pending" like what is shown in the widget following system boot.

dennypage

I sent out a beta 6 version to everyone. The only change is the ups “pending” change discussed above. To avoid any confusion, please delete the prior version via pkg delete prior to installing the new version.

If you have time to give this version a test, I would really appreciate it. I'd like to put this to bed. Thanks!

w0w


Aug 3 07:11:33 	pkg 		pfSense-pkg-nut-2.7.4b6 installed
Aug 3 07:11:33 	php 		/etc/rc.packages: Successfully installed package: nut.
Aug 3 07:11:33 	check_reload_status 		Syncing firewall
Aug 3 07:11:29 	php 		/etc/rc.packages: Starting service nut
Aug 3 07:11:29 	check_reload_status 		Syncing firewall
Aug 3 07:11:28 	php 		/etc/rc.packages: Beginning package installation for nut .
Aug 3 07:11:28 	pkg 		nut-2.7.4 installed
Aug 3 07:11:18 	pkg 		nut-2.7.4 deinstalled

But… NUT service itself does not start automatically after installation. Only on saving config or reboot.

dennypage

@w0w:

But… NUT service itself does not start automatically after installation. Only on saving config or reboot.

This is expected: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=114871.msg643281#msg643281

w0w

Ok then. It works.

w0w

dennypage
Thank you for reload page script also ;) Some days before I have tried similar one also but without success.

timotl

dennypage

Connected fine to my APC UPS over SNMP.
It even picked up the config and converted it.
The old package had all of the SNMP settings broken out so you could just fill it in.
It looks like the only one really needed anymore is the community string.
Might be more friendly to have a setting for it or a note in the extra arguments.

All working fine for me though, but it did take a second to look for UPS instead of NUT in the services list. :)

dennypage

@w0w:

Thank you for reload page script also ;)

You're welcome!

dennypage

Thanks timotl, I'm glad it worked for you. I reason I didn't put the community string as a primary part of the config is because it is optional to the driver and the majority of folk leave this as the default value (public). I'll add a note to the doc thread in the forum to make sure people know. Thanks again for your help with testing!

Starrbuck

@dennypage:

I sent out a beta 6 version to everyone. The only change is the ups “pending” change discussed above. To avoid any confusion, please delete the prior version via pkg delete prior to installing the new version.

If you have time to give this version a test, I would really appreciate it. I'd like to put this to bed. Thanks!

Beta 6 working fine here.

dennypage

Thanks Starrbuck, much appreciated.