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    Beta test of new NUT UPS package

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    • w0wW
      w0w
      last edited by

      I am sorry  :'(, but may be I have tested it in wrong way. If I unplug SNMP card from the network and then restart the service — it does not reconnects to the UPS. All I get in logs is

      
      endless....
      Aug 2 10:22:46 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
      Aug 2 10:22:41 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
      Aug 2 10:22:36 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
      Aug 2 10:22:31 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
      Aug 2 10:22:26 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
      Aug 2 10:22:21 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
      Aug 2 10:22:16 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
      Aug 2 10:22:11 	upsmon 	50160 	UPS SMK-1000A is unavailable 
      
      

      Looks like it does not matter sleep 1 or 12 is applied.

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      • dennypageD
        dennypage
        last edited by

        Do you still have maxretry and retrydelay in the advanced section?

        https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=114871.msg640123#msg640123

        You should be seeing a stream of messages from the snmp driver…

        @w0w:

        If I unplug SNMP card from the network and then restart the service — it does not reconnects to the UPS. All I get in logs is

        
        endless....
        Aug 2 10:22:46 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
        Aug 2 10:22:41 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
        Aug 2 10:22:36 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
        Aug 2 10:22:31 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
        Aug 2 10:22:26 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
        Aug 2 10:22:21 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
        Aug 2 10:22:16 	upsmon 	50160 	Poll UPS [SMK-1000A] failed - Driver not connected
        Aug 2 10:22:11 	upsmon 	50160 	UPS SMK-1000A is unavailable 
        
        
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        • w0wW
          w0w
          last edited by

          Double checked my setup and config and found that I am an idiot.
          maxretry=60
          retrydelay=60
          was placed into upsmon.conf instead of ups.conf
          I have removed both ampersand and sleep from nut.sh
          Testing again

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          • w0wW
            w0w
            last edited by

            Looks like all working without ampersand and sleep.
            But when ampersand removed it takes a while to load status page with disconnected UPS ;).
            So I ask you again, is it OK for you if sleep would be 12 seconds instead of 1?
            With this value all seems OK on my side. Reconnection after SNMP down and service restart  with SNMP online on status page is OK. No issues currently!

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            • dennypageD
              dennypage
              last edited by

              I really can't do a 12 second sleep in service start. The 95% case is that UPS startup takes well under 1 second. An additional delay in service start affects everyone and everything including system startup (boot). Introducing a 10+ second delay to system startup would not be generally acceptable. It also creates a situation in which there can be multiple service starts underway at the same time, which can result in all sorts of problems with nut. And of course, 12 seconds works in this specific case, but what happens when a case comes along that requires 20 seconds for UPS initialization?

              The backgrounding for driver start is required to support initialization retries. Without backgrounding, status page load (and system startup) will hang until driver initilization completes. With the maxretry/retrydelay example previously posted, this could be 1 hour. Note that maxretry/retrydelay only affects driver initialization (startup). It does not affect disconnect/reconnect.

              About the only thing I can do is have the status be "pending" like what is shown in the widget following system boot.

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              • dennypageD
                dennypage
                last edited by

                I sent out a beta 6 version to everyone. The only change is the ups “pending” change discussed above. To avoid any confusion, please delete the prior version via pkg delete prior to installing the new version.

                If you have time to give this version a test, I would really appreciate it. I'd like to put this to bed. Thanks!

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                • w0wW
                  w0w
                  last edited by

                  
                  Aug 3 07:11:33 	pkg 		pfSense-pkg-nut-2.7.4b6 installed
                  Aug 3 07:11:33 	php 		/etc/rc.packages: Successfully installed package: nut.
                  Aug 3 07:11:33 	check_reload_status 		Syncing firewall
                  Aug 3 07:11:29 	php 		/etc/rc.packages: Starting service nut
                  Aug 3 07:11:29 	check_reload_status 		Syncing firewall
                  Aug 3 07:11:28 	php 		/etc/rc.packages: Beginning package installation for nut .
                  Aug 3 07:11:28 	pkg 		nut-2.7.4 installed
                  Aug 3 07:11:18 	pkg 		nut-2.7.4 deinstalled 
                  
                  

                  But… NUT service itself does not start automatically after installation. Only on saving config or reboot.

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                  • dennypageD
                    dennypage
                    last edited by

                    @w0w:

                    But… NUT service itself does not start automatically after installation. Only on saving config or reboot.

                    This is expected: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=114871.msg643281#msg643281

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                    • w0wW
                      w0w
                      last edited by

                      Ok then. It works.

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                      • w0wW
                        w0w
                        last edited by

                        dennypage
                        Thank you for reload page script also ;) Some days before I have tried similar one also but without success.

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                          timotl
                          last edited by

                          dennypage

                          Connected fine to my APC UPS over SNMP.
                          It even picked up the config and converted it.
                          The old package had all of the SNMP settings broken out so you could just fill it in.
                          It looks like the only one really needed anymore is the community string.
                          Might be more friendly to have a setting for it or a note in the extra arguments.

                          All working fine for me though, but it did take a second to look for UPS instead of NUT in the services list.  :)

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                          • dennypageD
                            dennypage
                            last edited by

                            @w0w:

                            Thank you for reload page script also ;)

                            You're welcome!

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                            • dennypageD
                              dennypage
                              last edited by

                              Thanks timotl, I'm glad it worked for you. I reason I didn't put the community string as a primary part of the config is because it is optional to the driver and the majority of folk leave this as the default value (public). I'll add a note to the doc thread in the forum to make sure people know. Thanks again for your help with testing!

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                                Starrbuck
                                last edited by

                                @dennypage:

                                I sent out a beta 6 version to everyone. The only change is the ups “pending” change discussed above. To avoid any confusion, please delete the prior version via pkg delete prior to installing the new version.

                                If you have time to give this version a test, I would really appreciate it. I'd like to put this to bed. Thanks!

                                Beta 6 working fine here.

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                                • dennypageD
                                  dennypage
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks Starrbuck, much appreciated.

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                                  • dennypageD
                                    dennypage
                                    last edited by

                                    The new NUT package has been merged. This version is identified as 2.7.4_1, and is equivalent to beta version 6. When the package becomes available via the package manager, I recommend that you delete the beta version prior to installing the production version.

                                    Again, thank you for the help guys. It is greatly appreciated!

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                                      Starrbuck
                                      last edited by

                                      Thank you, sir!  It was fun.

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                                        th3r3isnospoon
                                        last edited by

                                        Hello All,

                                        Thank you for the work on this.

                                        After installing the new version, I no longer see it listed in the services menu (neither NUT nor UPS).  I tried the install on two different pfSense FW's running 2.3.2 (pfsense amd64 and nanobsd) and right now it doesn't work on either box.

                                        When I do a full reinstall it says this:

                                        Upgrading pfSense-pkg-nut…
                                        Updating pfSense-core repository catalogue...
                                        pfSense-core repository is up-to-date.
                                        Updating pfSense repository catalogue...
                                        pfSense repository is up-to-date.
                                        All repositories are up-to-date.
                                        Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting)
                                        The following 1 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked):

                                        Installed packages to be REINSTALLED:
                                        pfSense-pkg-nut-2.7.4_1 [pfSense]

                                        Number of packages to be reinstalled: 1
                                        [1/1] Reinstalling pfSense-pkg-nut-2.7.4_1…
                                        [1/1] Extracting pfSense-pkg-nut-2.7.4_1: …....... done
                                        The nut package is not installed.

                                        Deletion aborted.XML error: PKGINFOLINK at line 8 cannot occur more than once

                                        Cleaning up cache... done.
                                        Success

                                        I tried a full uninstall and reinstall but the service is nowhere to be found.  It shows that the package is installed, I just can't do anything besides that.  Any ideas?

                                        Thanks,

                                        -th3r3isnospoon

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                                        • dennypageD
                                          dennypage
                                          last edited by

                                          I am also seeing this error on factory, but not on beta. I don't have a community version at the moment to check on. Which version are you running? Community, factory, or beta?

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                                            timotl
                                            last edited by

                                            If it helps, I tried to update from beta and see the same error on community.
                                            Removed the package manually and still has the same error on install.

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