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    SSL/TLS Option Breaks My SMTP Notifications

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    • GertjanG
      Gertjan
      last edited by

      This :
      @ghostshell:

      Jul 28 21:33:29 www postfix/smtpd[19510]: lost connection after CONNECT from unknown[192.168.1.1]
      Jul 28 21:33:29 www postfix/smtpd[19510]: disconnect from unknown[192.168.1.1]

      can't be possible.

      Where is (who is) your mail server ?
      Your connecting with your LAN IP ….. added to that : an IP without a "reverse DNS" : a postfix mail server will never accept that. That's like sending a letter by the post without a stamp.

      You saw my example ?

      Jul 28 08:42:02 ns311465 brit-hotel-fumel.fr-smtps/smtpd[18310]: connect from Nowwhat-1-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net[2001:470:1f12:5c0::2[/code]
      My pfSense uses a public IP (WAN IP) (IPv6 in this case) to send a mail to my mail server, some where on the internet.
      
      I'm not saying you can't use a LAN IP, but in that case your mail server would (should) be on your LAN (the 192.168.1.1).
      Or you have a very strange network setup .... and we don't know nothing about your setup.
      
      So : it's normal that your notification mail doesn't work.
      

      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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      • dennypageD
        dennypage
        last edited by

        This isn't a error unless specifically configure to be. By default, postfix does not require reverse DNS. There are postfix detectives that control how this works–see reject_unknown_client_hostname and reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname.

        It would appear that the poster's Postfix server is on his local network, so it makes sense that it would connect using the LAN IP. If he were using a public mail service it is unlikely he would be able to offer the log file entries.

        @Gertjan:

        Your connecting with your LAN IP ….. added to that : an IP without a "reverse DNS" : a postfix mail server will never accept that. That's like sending a letter by the post without a stamp.

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        • ghostshellG
          ghostshell
          last edited by

          pfsense LAN 1 = 192.168.0/24
          mail server on LAN 1

          Where I am at for the moment is this if this helps at all.

          No SSL/TLS or STARTTLS checked with the current settings notifications work.

          I was using the same settings for a long time and noticed that the last alert I got was back on Feb 6th, nothing since then until unchecking SSL/TLS.

          I turned on submission and that broke some things so I turned it back off.

          I try port 465 by enabling it in master.cf and I get the errors I posted in my OP.

          I read to enable tls_wrapper, but when testing I do not get the test email still

          Mail clients on IOS, my computer, etc… are using TLS just fine.

          Issue only happens when using SSL/TLS option in the pfsense notification settings.

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          • N
            NOYB
            last edited by

            Certificate trust issue?

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            • ghostshellG
              ghostshell
              last edited by

              I dont think so as I have a storage server that has a notification screen that looks just like the pfsense screen except no STARTTLS option and using the options that do not work for pfsense work for that server as in

              mail server local IP
              port 465
              SSL/TLS
              login
              from same as login
              to address

              it is using a different login, but everything else is the same

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              • ghostshellG
                ghostshell
                last edited by

                By the way thank you all for helping me try to figure this out

                soon I may give up and just not use SSL/TLS to secure the connection since its only internal and not an external connection

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                  NOYB
                  last edited by

                  @ghostshell:

                  I dont think so as I have a storage server that has a notification screen that looks just like the pfsense screen except no STARTTLS option and using the options that do not work for pfsense work for that server as in

                  mail server local IP
                  port 465
                  SSL/TLS
                  login
                  from same as login
                  to address

                  it is using a different login, but everything else is the same

                  Just because some other system trusts the certificate doesn't mean pfSense does.

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                  • GertjanG
                    Gertjan
                    last edited by

                    If your mail server is on your LAN, and you trust other devices on the same LAN, you should be fine using a non-TLS/SSL (465) and/or submission (587).
                    Just send to the "25" port.
                    Of course, all the rest will be a pure postfix-setup-issue.

                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                    • ghostshellG
                      ghostshell
                      last edited by

                      I deleted and re-added my email accounts on mt ipad and was able to use TLS on those devices successfully.

                      I am trying to check the cert to make sure that is not it, anyone know the quickest way to test the cert postfix is using?

                      My imap-ssl is not showing any issues with the cert it uses.

                      Also getting some new log info when testing settings last night, will post when I start testing again.

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                      • ghostshellG
                        ghostshell
                        last edited by

                        Using http://www.checktls.com/ it seems to show the cert is validated and OK and was able to use TLS 1.2 successfully for the connection.

                        Master.cf

                        smtp      inet  n      -      n      -      -      smtpd -v

                        submission inet n      -      n      -      -      smtpd -v
                          -o smtpd_tls_security_level=encrypt
                        #  -o smtpd_tls_security_level=may
                        #  -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
                        #  -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
                        #  -o milter_macro_daemon_name=ORIGINATING
                        smtps    inet  n      -      n      -      -      smtpd -v
                          -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes
                        #  -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
                        #  -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
                        #  -o milter_macro_daemon_name=ORIGINATING

                        Using 25 or 465 with no SSL/TLS or STARTTLS option checked works

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                        • N
                          NOYB
                          last edited by

                          It doesn't matter what any thing else thinks of the cert.  pfSense has to trust it.

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                          • ghostshellG
                            ghostshell
                            last edited by

                            @NOYB:

                            It doesn't matter what any thing else thinks of the cert.  pfSense has to trust it.

                            Ok, then how will I know as the cert and postfix settings have not changed since my last alert email, i see nothing in the logs showing cert issues with pfsense 192.168.1.1

                            pfsense logs show this error over and over

                            php-fpm /system_advanced_notifications.php: Could not send the message to gmail.com – Error: could not start TLS connection encryption protocol

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                              NOYB
                              last edited by

                              The two places I know of for the CA to be located in pfSense are:

                              1. System / Certificate Manager / CAs
                              2. /usr/local/share/certs/ca-root-nss.crt

                              This is not to say there couldn't be some other location.  These are just the two I'm aware of.
                              I am also not sure in which of the locations it is required to be for notifications.  Mine is in both.  But I'm thinking it probably has to be in ca-root-nss.crt.

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                              • dennypageD
                                dennypage
                                last edited by

                                Did you have to hand edit ca-root-nss.crt to add the CA?

                                @NOYB:

                                The two places I know of for the CA to be located in pfSense are:

                                1. System / Certificate Manager / CAs
                                2. /usr/local/share/certs/ca-root-nss.crt

                                This is not to say there couldn't be some other location.  These are just the two I'm aware of.
                                I am also not sure in which of the locations it is required to be for notifications.  Mine is in both.  But I'm thinking it probably has to be in ca-root-nss.crt.

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                                  NOYB
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes, I just added it below all the other CA's and incremented the number of certificates.

                                  Mine is a self signed, so I have to added it.  I wish PHP curl could use it from the one that is in config (System / Certificate Manager / CAs) so it would survive upgrades and I wouldn't have to remember to add it to the file.

                                  Here are the results of notification test message with and without and with my CA added to the ca-root-nss.crt file.

                                  
                                  Aug 2 23:47:48  php-fpm  42511  /system_advanced_notifications.php: Message sent to xxx@yyy.com OK  
                                  Aug 2 23:47:06  php-fpm  11699  /system_advanced_notifications.php: Could not send the message to xxx@yyy.com -- Error: could not start TLS connection encryption protocol  
                                  
                                  
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                                    NOYB
                                    last edited by

                                    According to a kdiff comparison it appears this certificate was present in 2.3 but is absent in 2.3.2.  If that is the CA for your cert then that would likely be why it quit working.

                                    /usr/local/share/certs/ca-root-nss.crt

                                    
                                    Certificate:
                                        Data:
                                            Version: 3 (0x2)
                                            Serial Number: 36 (0x24)
                                        Signature Algorithm: sha1WithRSAEncryption
                                            Issuer: C=FI, O=Sonera, CN=Sonera Class1 CA
                                            Validity
                                                Not Before: Apr  6 10:49:13 2001 GMT
                                                Not After : Apr  6 10:49:13 2021 GMT
                                            Subject: C=FI, O=Sonera, CN=Sonera Class1 CA
                                            Subject Public Key Info:
                                                Public Key Algorithm: rsaEncryption
                                                    Public-Key: (2048 bit)
                                                    Modulus:
                                                        00:b5:89:1f:2b:4f:67:0a:79:ff:c5:1e:f8:7f:3c:
                                                        ed:d1:7e:da:b0:cd:6d:2f:36:ac:34:c6:db:d9:64:
                                                        17:08:63:30:33:22:8a:4c:ee:8e:bb:0f:0d:42:55:
                                                        c9:9d:2e:a5:ef:f7:a7:8c:c3:ab:b9:97:cb:8e:ef:
                                                        3f:15:67:a8:82:72:63:53:0f:41:8c:7d:10:95:24:
                                                        a1:5a:a5:06:fa:92:57:9d:fa:a5:01:f2:75:e9:1f:
                                                        bc:56:26:52:4e:78:19:65:58:55:03:58:c0:14:ae:
                                                        8c:7c:55:5f:70:5b:77:23:06:36:97:f3:24:b5:9a:
                                                        46:95:e4:df:0d:0b:05:45:e5:d1:f2:1d:82:bb:c6:
                                                        13:e0:fe:aa:7a:fd:69:30:94:f3:d2:45:85:fc:f2:
                                                        32:5b:32:de:e8:6c:5d:1f:cb:a4:22:74:b0:80:8e:
                                                        5d:94:f7:06:00:4b:a9:d4:5e:2e:35:50:09:f3:80:
                                                        97:f4:0c:17:ae:39:d8:5f:cd:33:c1:1c:ca:89:c2:
                                                        22:f7:45:12:ed:5e:12:93:9d:63:ab:82:2e:b9:eb:
                                                        42:41:44:cb:4a:1a:00:82:0d:9e:f9:8b:57:3e:4c:
                                                        c7:17:ed:2c:8b:72:33:5f:72:7a:38:56:d5:e6:d9:
                                                        ae:05:1a:1d:75:45:b1:cb:a5:25:1c:12:57:36:fd:
                                                        22:37
                                                    Exponent: 65537 (0x10001)
                                            X509v3 extensions:
                                                X509v3 Basic Constraints: critical
                                                    CA:TRUE
                                                X509v3 Subject Key Identifier: 
                                                    47:E2:0C:8B:F6:53:88:52
                                                X509v3 Key Usage: 
                                                    Certificate Sign, CRL Sign
                                        Signature Algorithm: sha1WithRSAEncryption
                                             8b:1a:b2:c9:5d:61:b4:e1:b9:2b:b9:53:d1:b2:85:9d:77:8e:
                                             16:ee:11:3d:db:c2:63:d9:5b:97:65:fb:12:67:d8:2a:5c:b6:
                                             ab:e5:5e:c3:b7:16:2f:c8:e8:ab:1d:8a:fd:ab:1a:7c:d5:5f:
                                             63:cf:dc:b0:dd:77:b9:a8:e6:d2:22:38:87:07:14:d9:ff:be:
                                             56:b5:fd:07:0e:3c:55:ca:16:cc:a7:a6:77:37:fb:db:5c:1f:
                                             4e:59:06:87:a3:03:43:f5:16:ab:b7:84:bd:4e:ef:9f:31:37:
                                             f0:46:f1:40:b6:d1:0c:a5:64:f8:63:5e:21:db:55:4e:4f:31:
                                             76:9c:10:61:8e:b6:53:3a:a3:11:be:af:6d:7c:1e:bd:ae:2d:
                                             e2:0c:69:c7:85:53:68:a2:61:ba:c5:3e:b4:79:54:78:9e:0a:
                                             c7:02:be:62:d1:11:82:4b:65:2f:91:5a:c2:a8:87:b1:56:68:
                                             94:79:f9:25:f7:c1:d5:ae:1a:b8:bb:3d:8f:a9:8a:38:15:f7:
                                             73:d0:5a:60:d1:80:b0:f0:dc:d5:50:cd:4e:ee:92:48:69:ed:
                                             b2:23:1e:30:cc:c8:94:c8:b6:f5:3b:86:7f:3f:a6:2e:9f:f6:
                                             3e:2c:b5:92:96:3e:df:2c:93:8a:ff:81:8c:0f:0f:59:21:19:
                                             57:bd:55:9a
                                    SHA1 Fingerprint=07:47:22:01:99:CE:74:B9:7C:B0:3D:79:B2:64:A2:C8:55:E9:33:FF
                                    -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
                                    MIIDIDCCAgigAwIBAgIBJDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADA5MQswCQYDVQQGEwJGSTEP
                                    MA0GA1UEChMGU29uZXJhMRkwFwYDVQQDExBTb25lcmEgQ2xhc3MxIENBMB4XDTAx
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                                    MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4IBAQCLGrLJXWG04bkruVPRsoWdd44W7hE928Jj2VuX
                                    ZfsSZ9gqXLar5V7DtxYvyOirHYr9qxp81V9jz9yw3Xe5qObSIjiHBxTZ/75Wtf0H
                                    DjxVyhbMp6Z3N/vbXB9OWQaHowND9Rart4S9Tu+fMTfwRvFAttEMpWT4Y14h21VO
                                    TzF2nBBhjrZTOqMRvq9tfB69ri3iDGnHhVNoomG6xT60eVR4ngrHAr5i0RGCS2Uv
                                    kVrCqIexVmiUefkl98HVrhq4uz2PqYo4Ffdz0Fpg0YCw8NzVUM1O7pJIae2yIx4w
                                    zMiUyLb1O4Z/P6Yun/Y+LLWSlj7fLJOK/4GMDw9ZIRlXvVWa
                                    -----END CERTIFICATE-----
                                    
                                    
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                                    • ghostshellG
                                      ghostshell
                                      last edited by

                                      Great! Thank you all for your help! I will add the CA for the current cert from the mailserver and post if the issue is resolved.

                                      @NOYB - another thing I noticed that the standard web interface cert is shown as OK in firefox while chrome throws the caution error, any way to correct this as I have not had any luck getting a cert for just the IP anymore, used to but have not be able to recently. Alt would be to use the domain name, but I find the IP more reliable.

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                                      • dennypageD
                                        dennypage
                                        last edited by

                                        @NOYB:

                                        Yes, I just added it below all the other CA's and incremented the number of certificates.

                                        Mine is a self signed, so I have to added it.  I wish PHP curl could use it from the one that is in config (System / Certificate Manager / CAs) so it would survive upgrades and I wouldn't have to remember to add it to the file.

                                        Here are the results of notification test message without and with my CA added to the ca-root-nss.crt file.

                                        
                                        Aug 2 23:47:48  php-fpm  42511  /system_advanced_notifications.php: Message sent to xxx@yyy.com OK  
                                        Aug 2 23:47:06  php-fpm  11699  /system_advanced_notifications.php: Could not send the message to xxx@yyy.com -- Error: could not start TLS connection encryption protocol  
                                        
                                        

                                        Thanks NOYB, this was very useful information for me.

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                                          NOYB
                                          last edited by

                                          @ghostshell:

                                          @NOYB - another thing I noticed that the standard web interface cert is shown as OK in firefox while chrome throws the caution error, any way to correct this as I have not had any luck getting a cert for just the IP anymore, used to but have not be able to recently. Alt would be to use the domain name, but I find the IP more reliable.

                                          I imported my own self-signed cert and the CA for it  (System / Certificate Manager / …).  Then configured Admin Access to use that cert for SSL and installed the CA in my browsers trusted roots.

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                                          • dennypageD
                                            dennypage
                                            last edited by

                                            I filed a ticket for this issue:

                                            https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/6687

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