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    SSL/TLS Option Breaks My SMTP Notifications

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    • ghostshellG
      ghostshell
      last edited by

      By the way thank you all for helping me try to figure this out

      soon I may give up and just not use SSL/TLS to secure the connection since its only internal and not an external connection

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        NOYB
        last edited by

        @ghostshell:

        I dont think so as I have a storage server that has a notification screen that looks just like the pfsense screen except no STARTTLS option and using the options that do not work for pfsense work for that server as in

        mail server local IP
        port 465
        SSL/TLS
        login
        from same as login
        to address

        it is using a different login, but everything else is the same

        Just because some other system trusts the certificate doesn't mean pfSense does.

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        • GertjanG
          Gertjan
          last edited by

          If your mail server is on your LAN, and you trust other devices on the same LAN, you should be fine using a non-TLS/SSL (465) and/or submission (587).
          Just send to the "25" port.
          Of course, all the rest will be a pure postfix-setup-issue.

          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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          • ghostshellG
            ghostshell
            last edited by

            I deleted and re-added my email accounts on mt ipad and was able to use TLS on those devices successfully.

            I am trying to check the cert to make sure that is not it, anyone know the quickest way to test the cert postfix is using?

            My imap-ssl is not showing any issues with the cert it uses.

            Also getting some new log info when testing settings last night, will post when I start testing again.

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            • ghostshellG
              ghostshell
              last edited by

              Using http://www.checktls.com/ it seems to show the cert is validated and OK and was able to use TLS 1.2 successfully for the connection.

              Master.cf

              smtp      inet  n      -      n      -      -      smtpd -v

              submission inet n      -      n      -      -      smtpd -v
                -o smtpd_tls_security_level=encrypt
              #  -o smtpd_tls_security_level=may
              #  -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
              #  -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
              #  -o milter_macro_daemon_name=ORIGINATING
              smtps    inet  n      -      n      -      -      smtpd -v
                -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes
              #  -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
              #  -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
              #  -o milter_macro_daemon_name=ORIGINATING

              Using 25 or 465 with no SSL/TLS or STARTTLS option checked works

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                NOYB
                last edited by

                It doesn't matter what any thing else thinks of the cert.  pfSense has to trust it.

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                • ghostshellG
                  ghostshell
                  last edited by

                  @NOYB:

                  It doesn't matter what any thing else thinks of the cert.  pfSense has to trust it.

                  Ok, then how will I know as the cert and postfix settings have not changed since my last alert email, i see nothing in the logs showing cert issues with pfsense 192.168.1.1

                  pfsense logs show this error over and over

                  php-fpm /system_advanced_notifications.php: Could not send the message to gmail.com – Error: could not start TLS connection encryption protocol

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                    NOYB
                    last edited by

                    The two places I know of for the CA to be located in pfSense are:

                    1. System / Certificate Manager / CAs
                    2. /usr/local/share/certs/ca-root-nss.crt

                    This is not to say there couldn't be some other location.  These are just the two I'm aware of.
                    I am also not sure in which of the locations it is required to be for notifications.  Mine is in both.  But I'm thinking it probably has to be in ca-root-nss.crt.

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                    • dennypageD
                      dennypage
                      last edited by

                      Did you have to hand edit ca-root-nss.crt to add the CA?

                      @NOYB:

                      The two places I know of for the CA to be located in pfSense are:

                      1. System / Certificate Manager / CAs
                      2. /usr/local/share/certs/ca-root-nss.crt

                      This is not to say there couldn't be some other location.  These are just the two I'm aware of.
                      I am also not sure in which of the locations it is required to be for notifications.  Mine is in both.  But I'm thinking it probably has to be in ca-root-nss.crt.

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                        NOYB
                        last edited by

                        Yes, I just added it below all the other CA's and incremented the number of certificates.

                        Mine is a self signed, so I have to added it.  I wish PHP curl could use it from the one that is in config (System / Certificate Manager / CAs) so it would survive upgrades and I wouldn't have to remember to add it to the file.

                        Here are the results of notification test message with and without and with my CA added to the ca-root-nss.crt file.

                        
                        Aug 2 23:47:48  php-fpm  42511  /system_advanced_notifications.php: Message sent to xxx@yyy.com OK  
                        Aug 2 23:47:06  php-fpm  11699  /system_advanced_notifications.php: Could not send the message to xxx@yyy.com -- Error: could not start TLS connection encryption protocol  
                        
                        
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                          NOYB
                          last edited by

                          According to a kdiff comparison it appears this certificate was present in 2.3 but is absent in 2.3.2.  If that is the CA for your cert then that would likely be why it quit working.

                          /usr/local/share/certs/ca-root-nss.crt

                          
                          Certificate:
                              Data:
                                  Version: 3 (0x2)
                                  Serial Number: 36 (0x24)
                              Signature Algorithm: sha1WithRSAEncryption
                                  Issuer: C=FI, O=Sonera, CN=Sonera Class1 CA
                                  Validity
                                      Not Before: Apr  6 10:49:13 2001 GMT
                                      Not After : Apr  6 10:49:13 2021 GMT
                                  Subject: C=FI, O=Sonera, CN=Sonera Class1 CA
                                  Subject Public Key Info:
                                      Public Key Algorithm: rsaEncryption
                                          Public-Key: (2048 bit)
                                          Modulus:
                                              00:b5:89:1f:2b:4f:67:0a:79:ff:c5:1e:f8:7f:3c:
                                              ed:d1:7e:da:b0:cd:6d:2f:36:ac:34:c6:db:d9:64:
                                              17:08:63:30:33:22:8a:4c:ee:8e:bb:0f:0d:42:55:
                                              c9:9d:2e:a5:ef:f7:a7:8c:c3:ab:b9:97:cb:8e:ef:
                                              3f:15:67:a8:82:72:63:53:0f:41:8c:7d:10:95:24:
                                              a1:5a:a5:06:fa:92:57:9d:fa:a5:01:f2:75:e9:1f:
                                              bc:56:26:52:4e:78:19:65:58:55:03:58:c0:14:ae:
                                              8c:7c:55:5f:70:5b:77:23:06:36:97:f3:24:b5:9a:
                                              46:95:e4:df:0d:0b:05:45:e5:d1:f2:1d:82:bb:c6:
                                              13:e0:fe:aa:7a:fd:69:30:94:f3:d2:45:85:fc:f2:
                                              32:5b:32:de:e8:6c:5d:1f:cb:a4:22:74:b0:80:8e:
                                              5d:94:f7:06:00:4b:a9:d4:5e:2e:35:50:09:f3:80:
                                              97:f4:0c:17:ae:39:d8:5f:cd:33:c1:1c:ca:89:c2:
                                              22:f7:45:12:ed:5e:12:93:9d:63:ab:82:2e:b9:eb:
                                              42:41:44:cb:4a:1a:00:82:0d:9e:f9:8b:57:3e:4c:
                                              c7:17:ed:2c:8b:72:33:5f:72:7a:38:56:d5:e6:d9:
                                              ae:05:1a:1d:75:45:b1:cb:a5:25:1c:12:57:36:fd:
                                              22:37
                                          Exponent: 65537 (0x10001)
                                  X509v3 extensions:
                                      X509v3 Basic Constraints: critical
                                          CA:TRUE
                                      X509v3 Subject Key Identifier: 
                                          47:E2:0C:8B:F6:53:88:52
                                      X509v3 Key Usage: 
                                          Certificate Sign, CRL Sign
                              Signature Algorithm: sha1WithRSAEncryption
                                   8b:1a:b2:c9:5d:61:b4:e1:b9:2b:b9:53:d1:b2:85:9d:77:8e:
                                   16:ee:11:3d:db:c2:63:d9:5b:97:65:fb:12:67:d8:2a:5c:b6:
                                   ab:e5:5e:c3:b7:16:2f:c8:e8:ab:1d:8a:fd:ab:1a:7c:d5:5f:
                                   63:cf:dc:b0:dd:77:b9:a8:e6:d2:22:38:87:07:14:d9:ff:be:
                                   56:b5:fd:07:0e:3c:55:ca:16:cc:a7:a6:77:37:fb:db:5c:1f:
                                   4e:59:06:87:a3:03:43:f5:16:ab:b7:84:bd:4e:ef:9f:31:37:
                                   f0:46:f1:40:b6:d1:0c:a5:64:f8:63:5e:21:db:55:4e:4f:31:
                                   76:9c:10:61:8e:b6:53:3a:a3:11:be:af:6d:7c:1e:bd:ae:2d:
                                   e2:0c:69:c7:85:53:68:a2:61:ba:c5:3e:b4:79:54:78:9e:0a:
                                   c7:02:be:62:d1:11:82:4b:65:2f:91:5a:c2:a8:87:b1:56:68:
                                   94:79:f9:25:f7:c1:d5:ae:1a:b8:bb:3d:8f:a9:8a:38:15:f7:
                                   73:d0:5a:60:d1:80:b0:f0:dc:d5:50:cd:4e:ee:92:48:69:ed:
                                   b2:23:1e:30:cc:c8:94:c8:b6:f5:3b:86:7f:3f:a6:2e:9f:f6:
                                   3e:2c:b5:92:96:3e:df:2c:93:8a:ff:81:8c:0f:0f:59:21:19:
                                   57:bd:55:9a
                          SHA1 Fingerprint=07:47:22:01:99:CE:74:B9:7C:B0:3D:79:B2:64:A2:C8:55:E9:33:FF
                          -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
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                          zMiUyLb1O4Z/P6Yun/Y+LLWSlj7fLJOK/4GMDw9ZIRlXvVWa
                          -----END CERTIFICATE-----
                          
                          
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                          • ghostshellG
                            ghostshell
                            last edited by

                            Great! Thank you all for your help! I will add the CA for the current cert from the mailserver and post if the issue is resolved.

                            @NOYB - another thing I noticed that the standard web interface cert is shown as OK in firefox while chrome throws the caution error, any way to correct this as I have not had any luck getting a cert for just the IP anymore, used to but have not be able to recently. Alt would be to use the domain name, but I find the IP more reliable.

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                            • dennypageD
                              dennypage
                              last edited by

                              @NOYB:

                              Yes, I just added it below all the other CA's and incremented the number of certificates.

                              Mine is a self signed, so I have to added it.  I wish PHP curl could use it from the one that is in config (System / Certificate Manager / CAs) so it would survive upgrades and I wouldn't have to remember to add it to the file.

                              Here are the results of notification test message without and with my CA added to the ca-root-nss.crt file.

                              
                              Aug 2 23:47:48  php-fpm  42511  /system_advanced_notifications.php: Message sent to xxx@yyy.com OK  
                              Aug 2 23:47:06  php-fpm  11699  /system_advanced_notifications.php: Could not send the message to xxx@yyy.com -- Error: could not start TLS connection encryption protocol  
                              
                              

                              Thanks NOYB, this was very useful information for me.

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                                NOYB
                                last edited by

                                @ghostshell:

                                @NOYB - another thing I noticed that the standard web interface cert is shown as OK in firefox while chrome throws the caution error, any way to correct this as I have not had any luck getting a cert for just the IP anymore, used to but have not be able to recently. Alt would be to use the domain name, but I find the IP more reliable.

                                I imported my own self-signed cert and the CA for it  (System / Certificate Manager / …).  Then configured Admin Access to use that cert for SSL and installed the CA in my browsers trusted roots.

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                                • dennypageD
                                  dennypage
                                  last edited by

                                  I filed a ticket for this issue:

                                  https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/6687

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                                    NOYB
                                    last edited by

                                    @dennypage:

                                    I filed a ticket for this issue:

                                    https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/6687

                                    Thank you.  Sure hope someone can fix that.  Sure would be a big help.

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