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      mauroman33
      last edited by

      Very good, it's a 40% increase!

      If you have not already done, you may try to activate PowerD in "Maximum" mode in System-Advanced-Miscellaneous and, if supported, to enable AES-NI in Cryptographic Hardware.

      Anyway it may be possible that's close to the limit reached by the Sempron 2650.

      To find it out, you should perform the test suggested by Ira in
      https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=105238.msg616743#msg616743

      Run from the GUI:
      openvpn –genkey --secret /tmp/secret
      and
      time openvpn --test-crypto --secret /tmp/secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 --cipher aes-256-cbc

      Then to give the execution time in seconds in real-world meaning:
      (3200 / execution_time_seconds) = Projected Maximum Performance OpenVPN in Mbps

      As you can see from what I have tested in
      https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=115673.msg642058#msg642058
      CPUs in the same class may have different performance depending on the presence AES-NI support.

      Please, let me know your benchmark.

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        whosmatt
        last edited by

        The performance test with AES-NI enabled gives me a theoretical max of 92Mbps.

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          mauroman33
          last edited by

          With a benchmark like that I would have expected about 100 Mbps in download.
          I regret not being able to help you more.
          The only thing I can add to the info about my settings is that I'm running the 2.3.2 stable version.
          If you will solve the issue, I'd like to read the adopted solution.
          Cheers

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            techy82
            last edited by

            i've got 200mbps but can only seem to get 20mbps via pia

            I have a

            Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400 CPU @ 2.70GHz
            2 CPUs: 2 package(s) x 1 core(s)

            and the following custom options

            auth-user-pass /etc/openvpn-password.txt;
            fast-io;
            sndbuf 524288;
            rcvbuf 524288

            AES cryptographic is enabled,

            if you find a way to improve it it would be great to know

            thanks!

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              mauroman33
              last edited by

              @techy82
              just out of curiosity, what PIA server are you connecting?

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                techy82
                last edited by

                new york city

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                  mauroman33
                  last edited by

                  @techy82:

                  new york city

                  Never tried. I usually go through denmark or sweden and with the configuration above I easily get the limit of the line (100Mbps)

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                    whosmatt
                    last edited by

                    @mauroman33:

                    I regret not being able to help you more.

                    You've helped plenty. Thanks.  Once I get home from my travels and am not testing remotely I'll be able to try tweaking a few more settings.  Worst case I buy an Athlon 5350 or 5370 for a 50% + single thread improvement.

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                      techy82
                      last edited by

                      @mauroman33:

                      @techy82:

                      new york city

                      Never tried. I usually go through denmark or sweden and with the configuration above I easily get the limit of the line (100Mbps)

                      I'll try some different servers later and see how that goes, Thanks

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                        M_Devil
                        last edited by

                        pfSense 2.3.2. using PIA with 2 OpenVPN clients combined in one Gateway Group (PIA could not deliver coding/decoding speed with one connection).

                        Get full ISP speed (500/500 Mbit) with CPU load of ~30%

                        Hardware: intel i5-3450
                        VPN

                        • AES-256-CBC
                        • SHA256
                        • fast-io;
                        • sndbuf 524288;
                        • rcvbuf 524288
                        • Hardware acceleration enabled.
                        • 2 fixed (same country as client) IP adresses for PIA.

                        So it should not be PIA restricted, seems CPU restricted.

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                          mauroman33
                          last edited by

                          @M_Devil:

                          pfSense 2.3.2. using PIA with 2 OpenVPN clients combined in one Gateway Group (PIA could not deliver coding/decoding speed with one connection).

                          Get full ISP speed (500/500 Mbit) with CPU load of ~30%

                          Hardware: intel i5-3450
                          VPN

                          • AES-256-CBC
                          • SHA256
                          • fast-io;
                          • sndbuf 524288;
                          • rcvbuf 524288
                          • Hardware acceleration enabled.
                          • 2 fixed (same country as client) IP adresses for PIA.

                          So it should not be PIA restricted, seems CPU restricted.

                          This is interesting.
                          How do you set the priority in the group? Both Tier 1 I guess.
                          And what speed did you get using only one OpenVPN client?

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                            M_Devil
                            last edited by

                            Indeed, both tier 1.
                            When using Blowfish (only option in the past), I could not push it above 200Mbit and unstable. By then I came up with the 2 client setup and that worked like a charm.
                            Recently I switched to AES and with a quick test it seems that it could handle ISP speed also with one connection. I stick with 2 connection for stability and extra security reasons.

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                              mauroman33
                              last edited by

                              Thanks for your reply.

                              I'm curious about the OpenVPN performance of various CPUs because of a future upgrade of my line and your CPU seems really interesting from my point of view.

                              If you are willing, could you performed the simple OpenVPN benchmark referenced here?
                              https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=105238.msg616743#msg616743 (Reply # 9 message)

                              From the GUI run

                              openvpn –genkey --secret / tmp / secret

                              --test time openvpn-crypto --secret / tmp / secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 --cipher aes-256-cbc

                              Then to give the execution time in seconds in real-world meaning:
                              (3200 / execution_time_seconds) = Projected Maximum Performance OpenVPN in Mbps

                              My Celeron N3150 gets a value of 116 Mbps that's the same value that normally reaches during download trough a PIA client.

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                                M_Devil
                                last edited by

                                Execution time = 9.433 seconds, so Projected Maximum Performance = 339 Mbit.

                                Does this represent single core performance?

                                Edit: In this case it does not represent maximum performance. It could easly push 500Mbit with ~30% load.

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                                  mauroman33
                                  last edited by

                                  As far as I know OpenVPN works in single thread, but I could be wrong… anyway your CPU is a beast!  ;)
                                  Thanks for letting me know.

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                                    AR15USR
                                    last edited by

                                    Not sure if this will help, but try turning off the Hardware Crypto setting in pfSense:

                                    https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=115627.0


                                    2.6.0-RELEASE

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                                      M_Devil
                                      last edited by

                                      If OpenVPN is indeed single threaded you can try multiple clients like me.
                                      Looks like your Celeron has multiple cores.

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                                        mauroman33
                                        last edited by

                                        As I remembered, OpenVPN it is not scalable:
                                        https://www.clearos.com/resources/documentation/clearos/content:en_us:kb_o_openvpn_performance

                                        I wanna say thanks to M_Devil for his tip: using multiple PIA clients I will not have the need to change my router after the line's upgrade.

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                                          M_Devil
                                          last edited by

                                          Glad to help you. Please let us know if it worked out.

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                                            mauroman33
                                            last edited by

                                            Of course! Thank you again.  :)

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