NUT package (2.8.0 and below)

dennypage

Assuming that your email notifications are working…

When you pulled the cord, how long did you wait? If you were logged into pfSense, did you see a wall announcement?

When you go to Services / UPS / Status with the cord pulled, what do you see?

dennypage

Are you affected by this bug?

https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=115349.msg646251#msg646251
https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=115349.msg646466#msg646466

McFuzz

@dennypage:

Assuming that your email notifications are working…

When you pulled the cord, how long did you wait? If you were logged into pfSense, did you see a wall announcement?

When you go to Services / UPS / Status with the cord pulled, what do you see?

I just gave it another shot:

Disconnected power
pfsense shell session indicated the UPS being on battery
UI dashboard as well as Services -> UPS both indicated the UPS needed attention (and showed it discharging)
Waited a minute and plugged back in
Shell session indicated the UPS was back on line power practically right away
UI dashboard reflected power restoration and shows the UPS as charging.

McFuzz

@dennypage:

Are you affected by this bug?

https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=115349.msg646251#msg646251
https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=115349.msg646466#msg646466

Hooray! That worked!!!!!

Thank you :)

So yeah - I guess I am affected :x

dennypage

You're welcome. I'm glad it worked for you.

endy66

Since yesterday, i have also an brand new UPS, one from CyberPower. I installed the nut package and everything is working as expected. Thanks to this thread, i could set the override.battery.charge.low to shutdown my pfsense earlier.
But now i have one question, i don't know, if this is the rigt Forum to ask this: I want to shutdown a Linux/Debian Server, which should get the data from the pfsense. So i have added in the upsd.users inside the box of the nut Settings the following:


[client]
password = mypass
upsmon slave

And in the upsd.conf box


LISTEN 192.168.1.1

On the Server i installed the nut-Client package (apt-get install nut-Client). With this command


upsc CyberPower_USV@192.168.1.1

i can get all the data from the pfsense (UPS)

But how can i make, that the Server also shuts down, when the pfsense box is shutting down?

EDIT// Everything is working now, i had to set the MODE=netclient on the Server.

But i found a Problem with the override values. As i said above, i have set the following to the additional ups.conf field in pfSense:


ignorelb
override.battery.charge.low = 50
override.battery.runtime.low = 1200

BUT These values are added on top of the ups.conf file, which means in my case, they are ignored. When i edit the ups.conf manually from ssh / Shell, and set thes override values at the bottom of the file and restart the daemon, the everything works and also the Monitoring in pfsense Show the new values. Is this a bug? Problem is, after reboot or restart the daemon, These values are not the anymore…

Best Regards

alanper

Firstly, thanks for a great and extremely useful package.
I'm having a problem with the NUT package on my pfSense deployment. When I click on Services->UPS I get an alert "Status Alert: The UPS requires attention". The NUT service is setup as a Remote NUT Server. The service is connecting fine to the UPS as I can see values and graphs being populated (correctly). The service is working as expected as well, as when I drop power to the UPS, NUT detects it and does what it is setup to do. Yet I still get the "Status Alert: The UPS requires attention" every time I go to Services->UPS. Any ideas?

dennypage

@endy66:

But i found a Problem with the override values. As i said above, i have set the following to the additional ups.conf field in pfSense:
ignorelb
override.battery.charge.low = 50
override.battery.runtime.low = 1200
BUT These values are added on top of the ups.conf file, which means in my case, they are ignored. When i edit the ups.conf manually from ssh / Shell, and set thes override values at the bottom of the file and restart the daemon, the everything works and also the Monitoring in pfsense Show the new values. Is this a bug? Problem is, after reboot or restart the daemon, These values are not the anymore…

The section entitled "Additional configuration lines for ups.conf" in Advanced settings is for global directives. The values you are trying to set are UPS specific arguments. UPS specific arguments should be entered in the section above that says "Extra Arguments to driver"

Sorry this isn't clear. I'll have a look at clarifying.

dennypage

@alanper:

When I click on Services->UPS I get an alert "Status Alert: The UPS requires attention". The NUT service is setup as a Remote NUT Server. The service is connecting fine to the UPS as I can see values and graphs being populated (correctly). The service is working as expected as well, as when I drop power to the UPS, NUT detects it and does what it is setup to do. Yet I still get the "Status Alert: The UPS requires attention" every time I go to Services->UPS.

Can you clarify some things please?

What do you mean by "The NUT service is setup as a Remote NUT Server"? Is the UPS attached to the pfSense host or to another host?

When you say "I can see values and graphs", are you seeing this on the Services / UPS / Status page?

If present, can you post the content of the UPS Detail section of Services / UPS / Status?

Thanks

endy66

@dennypage:

@alanper:

When I click on Services->UPS I get an alert "Status Alert: The UPS requires attention". The NUT service is setup as a Remote NUT Server. The service is connecting fine to the UPS as I can see values and graphs being populated (correctly). The service is working as expected as well, as when I drop power to the UPS, NUT detects it and does what it is setup to do. Yet I still get the "Status Alert: The UPS requires attention" every time I go to Services->UPS.

Can you clarify some things please?

What do you mean by "The NUT service is setup as a Remote NUT Server"? Is the UPS attached to the pfSense host or to another host?

When you say "I can see values and graphs", are you seeing this on the Services / UPS / Status page?

If present, can you post the content of the UPS Detail section of Services / UPS / Status?

Thanks

Thank you very much for the help, it works perfectly! :)

One last question i have:

When my UPS reaches the Limit which i set, my Server (slave) and my pfsense box are shutting down. But when do they (especally the pfsense box), boot again? Does the UPS Needs to dischagre completely to cut the power from the devices and then after power restore they get the power and boot again (with bios Setting ac restore)?

Best Regards

dennypage

Did you mean to quote a different posting?

@endy66:

@dennypage:

@alanper:

When I click on Services->UPS I get an alert "Status Alert: The UPS requires attention". The NUT service is setup as a Remote NUT Server. The service is connecting fine to the UPS as I can see values and graphs being populated (correctly). The service is working as expected as well, as when I drop power to the UPS, NUT detects it and does what it is setup to do. Yet I still get the "Status Alert: The UPS requires attention" every time I go to Services->UPS.

Can you clarify some things please?

What do you mean by "The NUT service is setup as a Remote NUT Server"? Is the UPS attached to the pfSense host or to another host?

When you say "I can see values and graphs", are you seeing this on the Services / UPS / Status page?

If present, can you post the content of the UPS Detail section of Services / UPS / Status?

Thanks

Thank you very much for the help, it works perfectly! :)

One last question i have:

When my UPS reaches the Limit which i set, my Server (slave) and my pfsense box are shutting down. But when do they (especally the pfsense box), boot again? Does the UPS Needs to dischagre completely to cut the power from the devices and then after power restore they get the power and boot again (with bios Setting ac restore)?

Best Regards

dennypage

@endy66:

When my UPS reaches the Limit which i set, my Server (slave) and my pfsense box are shutting down. But when do they (especally the pfsense box), boot again? Does the UPS Needs to dischagre completely to cut the power from the devices and then after power restore they get the power and boot again (with bios Setting ac restore)?

A simplified description of what happens with NUT when shutdown time arrives: The master sends a message to all slaves saying "initiate shutdown"; the master sends a command to the UPS saying "wait X seconds, then turn load power off"; the master initiates a local shutdown; the UPS turns off load power. When the mains return, the UPS restores load power, and the attached systems boot.

If possible, network systems attached to a UPS should be configured to always boot when power is applied. Otherwise, you can run into problems with shutdown vs power off.

endy66

Oops, yes sorry i quoted the wrong post. Thank you for the clarification. As i set the override.battery.charge.low to 50%, does my pfsense then power off the UPS? And can i set this "delay-value"? or can i see this somewhere? Because i waited about 10mins after my pfsense and my Server are shutdown, but the UPS did not power off.

Best Regards

openletter

The latest update for NUT has a link to view the changelog:

https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-ports/commits/devel/sysutils/pfSense-pkg-nut

I have been getting the "This page is taking way too long to load." page from GitHub for the past few days.

How about updating the first post of this thread with each new changelog?

dennypage

@endy66:

As i set the override.battery.charge.low to 50%, does my pfsense then power off the UPS? And can i set this "delay-value"? or can i see this somewhere? Because i waited about 10mins after my pfsense and my Server are shutdown, but the UPS did not power off.

You control this with the "offdelay" parameter to the driver. See the NUT usbhib-ups man page for information. Setting this controls the variable "ups.delay.shutdown". You can read about the various variable in the NUT Variables man page.

dennypage

@dennypage:

@alanper:

When I click on Services->UPS I get an alert "Status Alert: The UPS requires attention". The NUT service is setup as a Remote NUT Server. The service is connecting fine to the UPS as I can see values and graphs being populated (correctly). The service is working as expected as well, as when I drop power to the UPS, NUT detects it and does what it is setup to do. Yet I still get the "Status Alert: The UPS requires attention" every time I go to Services->UPS.

Can you clarify some things please?

What do you mean by "The NUT service is setup as a Remote NUT Server"? Is the UPS attached to the pfSense host or to another host?

When you say "I can see values and graphs", are you seeing this on the Services / UPS / Status page?

If present, can you post the content of the UPS Detail section of Services / UPS / Status?

Thanks

Alanper, did you get your issue resolved?

dennypage

@openletter:

The latest update for NUT has a link to view the changelog:

https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-ports/commits/devel/sysutils/pfSense-pkg-nut

I have been getting the "This page is taking way too long to load." page from GitHub for the past few days.

How about updating the first post of this thread with each new changelog?

It will be updated if there is something meaningful in a new version. The update released last week was solely to remove the orphan "NUT" menu item that would occur if the old package was not removed before install as discussed earlier in this thread. You can view the diff directly here.

alanper

@dennypage:

@dennypage:

@alanper:

When I click on Services->UPS I get an alert "Status Alert: The UPS requires attention". The NUT service is setup as a Remote NUT Server. The service is connecting fine to the UPS as I can see values and graphs being populated (correctly). The service is working as expected as well, as when I drop power to the UPS, NUT detects it and does what it is setup to do. Yet I still get the "Status Alert: The UPS requires attention" every time I go to Services->UPS.

Can you clarify some things please?

What do you mean by "The NUT service is setup as a Remote NUT Server"? Is the UPS attached to the pfSense host or to another host?

When you say "I can see values and graphs", are you seeing this on the Services / UPS / Status page?

If present, can you post the content of the UPS Detail section of Services / UPS / Status?

Thanks

Alanper, did you get your issue resolved?

Sorry for the delayed response. Trying to catch up on everything…
I have attached screenshots of my UPS status and settings page. Yep, seeing the values on the UPS Status page. The UPS is not attached to the pfSense host, it is attached to another host on the local network.

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dennypage

@alanper:

I have attached screenshots of my UPS status and settings page. Yep, seeing the values on the UPS Status page.

The warning that the UPS requires attention appears to be correct. Note that the status is "On line, Bypass"? Bypass is bad. Bypass means that the UPS inverter has been bypassed and will not take over if the mains fail. If you scroll down to the bottom of the UPS Detail section, you should see a field titled "ups.alarm" which will hopefully give you a better indication of why bypass is active.

I'm surprised that there wouldn't be an alarm going off on the thing.

alanper

@dennypage:

@alanper:

I have attached screenshots of my UPS status and settings page. Yep, seeing the values on the UPS Status page.

The warning that the UPS requires attention appears to be correct. Note that the status is "On line, Bypass"? Bypass is bad. Bypass means that the UPS inverter has been bypassed and will not take over if the mains fail. If you scroll down to the bottom of the UPS Detail section, you should see a field titled "ups.alarm" which will hopefully give you a better indication of why bypass is active.

I'm surprised that there wouldn't be an alarm going off on the thing.

For all intents and purposes, the UPS is functioning correctly (aside from the bypass status reading). I am using a generic UPS driver for NUT (it was a trial and error process at the time to find a driver that worked as there was none from the UPS manufacturer), perhaps that is the cause for the "incorrect" bypass reading (I say incorrect because if I disconnect the mains the UPS functions correctly). Anyway, it's not a major problem for me as it is just aesthetics for now.