Per IP traffic shaping–share bandwith evenly between IP addresses??

pererikk · Aug 4, 2016, 6:27 PM

@crisdavid:

I've personally haven't run into this. Do you have any extensions installed on your browser?, and do you have any packages or configurations running on your pfSense box like?

I only have squid running, and the problem happened on several different computers,ipads and different brrowser (chrome, safari and firefox), so i don't think its a browser thingie..

Everything worked great before limiters and after i removed the limiters, so the only conclusion i came to that it doesn't work in 2.3.2,
can squid have an impact ?

dimangelid · Aug 9, 2016, 1:57 AM

I have also tried the instructions in post https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=63531.msg364520#msg364520 at 2.3.2 64bit but no result. I also tried them at the latest 2.3.3 snapshot and even in that case they did not have any effect. Of course i have tried to modify the default LAN –> To any rule, make a new one with destination NOT LAN NET, no luck at all.

At my case, when i download a big file, even with 1 concurrent connection, no one at my local network can access the internet. The pings are crazy, 700ms+!!
Can anyone help me?

Spritzup · Oct 26, 2016, 5:17 PM

I followed the guide, setting my speed correctly. I then loaded up an nzb on my server. Normally this would max out my connection 12-14MB/s, but I was only getting 4.5-5.5MB/s. I then loaded up speedtest on my PC and was getting ~40mbps. At this point I figured that it was splitting my speed as desired, so I stopped the NZB and reran speedtest (multiple times actually) but was never able to get higher than ~40mbps. I then stopped all traffic from my PC, and started the NZB backup, and same thing, I can't exceed 40-50mbps.

Now the whole time I was running these tests, I was watching my interface traffic, which never exceeded ~50mbps, and I know nothing else was using the network. So either I set it up incorrectly, it's not working correctly, or (and this is my guess) that I have device(s) on the network that are sending just enough data in the background to warrant splitting of my bandwidth.

Somewhat related, but I also have 2 other subnets/vlans, how would I go about setting the limiters in that case? And does this work well with VoIP, or should I also use QoS?

w0w · Nov 19, 2016, 7:33 AM

I have both HFSC shaper and evenly set limiters by foxale08 guide, but I can not get limiters to work. If I start ookla speedtest simultaneously on 2 IP addresses, one on the PC and second on the smartphone, PC always wins. Standalone running smatphone will score at 90Mbps and PC at 265Mbps, when started simultaneously — PC wants to aggregate all possible bandwidth and eats up to 245Mbps, smartphone drops to 20Mbps, seems like limiters do not work as desired or i miss something else. I've tried amd64 2.3 and beta 2.4. Any suggestions?

w0w · Nov 19, 2016, 2:54 PM

OK got some progress, I've played with bandwidth values decreasing them and I see some progress in bandwidth share, smartphone is now hits 64Mbps, thats is much better, but could be better anyway. :)

Derelict · Nov 19, 2016, 4:58 PM

Maybe the smartphone doesn't download as fast as the PC?

What does it transfer when it is transferring without the competition?

The limiter doesn't say "I see two connections I will give them each half." It tries to balance the network as best it can based on the demands of each IP address.

w0w · Nov 19, 2016, 6:35 PM

@Derelict:

Maybe the smartphone doesn't download as fast as the PC?

What does it transfer when it is transferring without the competition?

The limiter doesn't say "I see two connections I will give them each half." It tries to balance the network as best it can based on the demands of each IP address.

Without competition it is transferring at 88-90Mbps. If I screw bandwidth down to ~200Mbit then it works as intended, smartphone transfers at maximum speed, but it limits all bandwidth used to ~190Mbit that is not acceptable on 300Mbit symmetrical (275 stable).
Can you clarify how balancing works in this scenario?

I just expected something similar to
@Derelict:

Huh?

How do you want it to work? That's the exact behavior expected.

If you want the first host to get 120Mbps then that's what you set the limiter to. Then you create a child limiter that masks on each source/dest IP address under that. Then you'd get something like:

120
60/60
40/40/40
30/30/30/30
24/24/24/24/24
20/20/20/20/20/20

etc

Derelict · Nov 19, 2016, 6:53 PM

Right but that is if everything else is equal, which it never is.

w0w · Nov 20, 2016, 6:25 AM

This does not explain why bandwidth limiting helps, some bottleneck detection mechanism triggers earlier?

Derelict · Nov 20, 2016, 6:27 AM

What did you say?

w0w · Nov 20, 2016, 6:40 AM

Did you read my previous messages?
If I decrease the limiter bandwidth then "equalization" works much better, giving smartphone his maximum transfer rate and limiting PC transfer rate. For example standalone, without competition, transfer for PC is 265Mbps and 89 for smartphone, limiting bandwidth in limiter to 200Mbps gives in result that smartphone transfers with 89Mbps and PC transfers at ~110Mbps with competition. If I set limit at 275Mbps as it theoretically should be set, then smartphone transfers at 45-65Mbps and PC at ~210Mbps with competition, thats why I am asking what is wrong, nothing else.

ThinkPadNL · Aug 23, 2017, 7:08 AM

Is the tutorial from foxale08 still relevant for 2.3.4-RELEASE-p1 ?

Derelict · Aug 23, 2017, 7:22 AM

Looks fine.

clacker · Sep 12, 2017, 2:23 AM

Justed wanted to say a big thankyou to foxale08!

I had setup the limiter pretty much as he had with the exception of the source mask…did that and perfectly even sharing on 2.3.4-RELEASE-p1 (amd64).

Almost brought a tear to my eye running speedtest on 3 devices and seeing the traffic graph stats so consistent between them.

belt9 · Sep 12, 2017, 5:19 AM

https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=126637.0

Read this thread, pfSense 2.4 has fq_codel (via CLI / shellcmd) fur limiters.

What this means to you is that it will do exactly what you described in Monowall, but better. It will keep your latency low when when the network is slammed.

6bizkit9 · Mar 14, 2018, 5:28 AM

@foxale08:

continued 3

Hi,

I am new to pfsense. Just wanted to have clarification regarding foxale08 config.

I have a 50 mbps internet connection single ISP. I created a limiter and rules to control the traffic to browsing ports (HTTP, HTTPS etc.) I set it up to 30 mbps for bandwidth pool.

I altered the default LAN rule based on foxale08 instruction which I created a limiter and rules to 50 mbps this is to maximize and share bandwidth evenly.

I didnt assign the remaining 20 mbps to limiter and left it as is, since gaming is not in browsing ports.

My expected result:

Browsing user1, user2, user3,…= share 30 mbps bandwidth
Gaming user1, user2, user3... = will share 20 mbps bandwidth
Total bandwidth used = 50 mbps. Using foxale08 config bandwidth will share evenly.

Now I just wanted to know if this set up is possible or which rules should go on top?

Derelict · Mar 14, 2018, 10:26 PM

Gaming will have access to all 50Mbit. If you want that behavior then you will have to make a 20Mbit limiter for the gaming traffic.

fsr · Apr 12, 2018, 2:09 PM

I wanted to thank foxale08 for the tutorial images he posted on the first page of this thread. Probably one of the most useful posts on the forum.

I configured this in 2.4.3-RELEASE (amd64), with 3 local adapters and one WAN adapter, and works perfectly.

Now, all the bandwidth is available to any computer, and if it hits the limit, it shares it in a very fair way. Heavy downloads can coexist with normal navigation without any problems, and the bandwidth is used very efficiently all the time.

rivasa · Jul 1, 2018, 1:59 PM

Would someone please help in resubmitting @foxale08's solution. It seems to have disappeared from the feed (or at least I cant see it).

Thanks

rnmkr · Jul 1, 2018, 1:59 PM

@rivasa said in Per IP traffic shaping–share bandwith evenly between IP addresses??:

Would someone please help in resubmitting @foxale08's solution. It seems to have disappeared from the feed (or at least I cant see it).

Thanks

Oh yes please. Someone update @foxale08 's solution please.

@fsr said in Per IP traffic shaping–share bandwith evenly between IP addresses??:

I wanted to thank foxale08 for the tutorial images he posted on the first page of this thread. Probably one of the most useful posts on the forum.

I configured this in 2.4.3-RELEASE (amd64), with 3 local adapters and one WAN adapter, and works perfectly.

Now, all the bandwidth is available to any computer, and if it hits the limit, it shares it in a very fair way. Heavy downloads can coexist with normal navigation without any problems, and the bandwidth is used very efficiently all the time.

Could you mind share your configuration?