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    • D
      dcol Banned
      last edited by

      As far as I know nothing is running on port 19006. But those eventually disappeared.

      The real issue is that every connection to PFsense gets a PA, RA, or FA before it goes through. Even local to local connections. Every HTTP access gets one too, but then goes through.
      There is something wrong here when every incoming or outgoing packet drops before it goes through.

      Any suggestions?

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      • H
        Harvy66
        last edited by

        FA and RA are just FIN and Reset packets. They're trying to close the connection. No point worrying about blocking packets that are meant to kill a connection if the connection is already dead.

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        • KOMK
          KOM
          last edited by

          Post screens of your LAN configuration and firewall rules.  Something screwy is going on.  Local traffic doesn't hit the firewall at all, and I noted this when I said it was funny that it's logging a block between 192.168.20.1 and 192.168.20.2.  No VLANs configured?

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by

            Are you running some sort of port forward or weird nat reflection setups… I agree with I can think of nothing that would be running on pfsense that listens on that port.. Post up a output of sockstat -4 -l

            example of mine

            
            [2.3.2-RELEASE][root@pfsense.local.lan]/root: sockstat -4 -l
            USER     COMMAND    PID   FD PROTO  LOCAL ADDRESS         FOREIGN ADDRESS
            root     php-fpm    4623  5  udp4   *:*                   *:*
            root     radiusd    76653 13 udp4   192.168.2.253:1812    *:*
            root     radiusd    76653 14 udp4   192.168.2.253:1814    *:*
            proxy    ftp-proxy  68730 3  tcp4   127.0.0.1:8021        *:*
            ladvd    ladvd      38973 9  udp4   *:*                   *:*
            root     ladvd      38787 5  udp4   *:*                   *:*
            dhcpd    dhcpd      12642 16 udp4   *:67                  *:*
            dhcpd    dhcpd      12642 20 udp4   *:64384               *:*
            unbound  unbound    93283 4  udp4   192.168.9.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    93283 5  tcp4   192.168.9.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    93283 8  udp4   192.168.2.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    93283 9  tcp4   192.168.2.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    93283 15 udp4   192.168.3.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    93283 16 tcp4   192.168.3.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    93283 19 udp4   192.168.4.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    93283 20 tcp4   192.168.4.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    93283 21 udp4   192.168.6.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    93283 22 tcp4   192.168.6.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    93283 25 udp4   192.168.7.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    93283 26 tcp4   192.168.7.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    93283 27 udp4   127.0.0.1:53          *:*
            unbound  unbound    93283 28 tcp4   127.0.0.1:53          *:*
            unbound  unbound    93283 31 tcp4   127.0.0.1:953         *:*
            root     openvpn    31208 6  udp4   24.13.snipped:4142     *:*
            root     openvpn    18443 6  udp4   24.13.snipped:1194     *:*
            root     openvpn    14412 6  tcp4   24.13.snipped:443      *:*
            root     syslogd    49062 7  udp4   192.168.9.253:514     *:*
            root     ntpd       44109 21 udp4   *:123                 *:*
            root     ntpd       44109 23 udp4   192.168.9.253:123     *:*
            root     ntpd       44109 26 udp4   192.168.2.253:123     *:*
            root     ntpd       44109 29 udp4   192.168.3.253:123     *:*
            root     ntpd       44109 31 udp4   127.0.0.1:123         *:*
            root     ntpd       44109 34 udp4   192.168.4.253:123     *:*
            root     ntpd       44109 36 udp4   192.168.5.253:123     *:*
            root     ntpd       44109 38 udp4   192.168.6.253:123     *:*
            root     ntpd       44109 41 udp4   192.168.7.253:123     *:*
            root     nginx      40900 6  tcp4   *:443                 *:*
            root     nginx      40900 8  tcp4   *:80                  *:*
            root     nginx      40737 6  tcp4   *:443                 *:*
            root     nginx      40737 8  tcp4   *:80                  *:*
            root     nginx      40531 6  tcp4   *:443                 *:*
            root     nginx      40531 8  tcp4   *:80                  *:*
            root     xinetd     28003 0  udp4   127.0.0.1:6969        *:*
            root     sshd       13927 5  tcp4   *:22                  *:*
            root     php-fpm    264   5  udp4   *:*                   *:*
            [2.3.2-RELEASE][root@pfsense.local.lan]/root:
            
            

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            • D
              dcol Banned
              last edited by

              KOM - See attached configs, I do use a Virtual IP that redirects to an assigned IP, No VLAN's

              Johnpoz- No port forwards to port 19006. I use a few rules to direct email traffic to the correct IP

              As far as the port 19006 hits, saw more this morning, so I setup a TCP port monitor to capture what process is causing it. But it looks like PFsense is generating the packets by looking at the sockstat

              Here are the Firewall rules and sockstat

              I noticed the extended Internet daemon port in the sockstat list. What does this mean?

              FW_LAN.jpg
              FW_LAN.jpg_thumb
              FW_OPT1.jpg
              FW_OPT1.jpg_thumb
              FW_WAN.jpg
              FW_WAN.jpg_thumb
              sockstat.jpg
              sockstat.jpg_thumb

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              • KOMK
                KOM
                last edited by

                Your rules are a bit of a mess.  Rules are applied to traffic entering an interface.  You can delete almost all of your LAN/OPT1 rules and replace them with a single Allow Any rule on each.  Generally, you don't specify a Source since the network the traffic is coming from is the source.  For example, on your LAN rules you don't need to specify Source as LAN Net since no other traffic is going to be coming into the LAN interface other than LAN Net traffic.  Those 2 Allow All rules at the bottom of your WAN rules needs to go, pronto.

                Clean your rules up and this might help eliminate any weirdness going on.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Yeah with KOM here those rules are complete mess..

                  Your lan rule is any any at the top, for udp/tcp why is it called allow email??  What email runs on udp?

                  Anyhow - all the rules below that are just pointless.

                  Rules are evaluated top down, first rule wins, rest are not even looked at.  As the packets enter the interface.

                  Those rules on your wan are BAD!!!

                  What do you have in your xinetd conf?

                  cat /var/etc/xinetd.conf

                  What packages do you have installed other than pfblocker?

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                  • D
                    dcol Banned
                    last edited by

                    Thanks for taking the time to help with these rules.

                    As for the LAN rules, see change below. I simplified it to any-any

                    As for the WAN rules, I have trimmed them down to the ones needed for the NAT port forwarding, see change below.

                    So in actuality, I should have only the WAN direct ports and have all the other interfaces pass any to any. I have no need for any restrictions on any of my internal networks. The only blocking I care about is from the WAN. But I do know that you also have to use the rules to direct traffic, as in the WAN rules below.

                    Don't I need a rule to allow internet traffic to my LAN. It does seem to work without one.

                    LAN2.jpg
                    LAN2.jpg_thumb
                    WAN2.jpg
                    WAN2.jpg_thumb

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                    • DerelictD
                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                      last edited by

                      Not sure why you are not using protocol any on your LANX rules if you really want no restrictions between LAN interfaces.

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                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        "I do know that you also have to use the rules to direct traffic"

                        Huh?  Sure if you want to do policy routing out a specific gateway or vpn connection, etc.  But lan to opt etc.. Or just out the default gateway no there is no need to "direct" anything.

                        If you really want no restrictions than that rule should be any not tcp/udp.  So you won't be able to ping stuff with that setup.  Even though you would be able to hit http..

                        So what is the content of your xinetd.conf ??
                        cat /var/etc/xinetd.conf

                        You clearly had something listening on that 19006 port..

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                        • K
                          kpa
                          last edited by

                          Ehm, no. Directly connected networks are known to the system by their routing table entries that do not need a gateway entry in the table. Gateways are only needed for "foreign" destinations, i.e. networks that are not directly connected to the system. The best example is of course the default gateway which is the 0.0.0.0/0 entry (often marked as "default" as it is in pfSense also) in the routing table, it's not a directly connected network so in order to reach it a gateway has to be configured. Like so in my pfSense system (public IPs censored):

                          
                          $ netstat -nr -f inet
                          Routing tables
                          
                          Internet:
                          Destination        Gateway            Flags      Netif Expire
                          default            88.195.aaa.1       UGS         em1
                          10.0.0.0/8         127.0.0.1          UGS         lo0
                          10.71.14.0/24      link#2             U           em0
                          10.71.14.1         link#2             UHS         lo0
                          88.195.aaa.0/19    link#3             U           em1
                          88.195.bbb.ccc     link#3             UHS         lo0
                          127.0.0.1          link#7             UH          lo0
                          172.16.0.0/12      127.0.0.1          UGS         lo0
                          192.168.0.0/16     127.0.0.1          UGS         lo0
                          192.168.1.0/24     link#3             U           em1
                          192.168.1.200      link#3             UHS         lo0
                          
                          

                          Here the 88.195.aaa.0/19 is a directly connected network (the WAN network), so is my LAN network of 10.71.14.0/24. The system knows how to reach hosts on those networks without a need to send the traffic to a gateway by issuing an ARP query on the connected network to figure out which MAC address the traffic should be sent to on the ethernet level.

                          The default gateway, the one that is needed to reach the "world out there, the internet" is the first line that says "default            88.195.aaa.1      UGS        em1". This says that in order to connect to any IP address/network that does not match an entry in the routing table of this system forward the traffic to address 88.195.aaa.1 and not very surprisingly the routing table also has instructions on how to reach that address, the "88.195.aaa.0/19    link#3            U          em1" line.

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                          • D
                            dcol Banned
                            last edited by

                            I did change the LAN tcp/udp to any right after I posted the rules.

                            See attached the xinetd file. Why are those 19001-19008 ports in there? Is this normal?

                            Here is my routing table. The first 2 entries are DNS. Does this look ok?

                            Routing tables

                            Internet:
                            Destination          Gateway            Flags    Netif Expire
                            default                  xx.xx.129.113    UGS      igb2
                            68.105.28.16        xx.xx.129.113    UGHS    igb2
                            68.105.29.16        xx.xx.129.113    UGHS    igb2
                            xx.xx.129.112/28  link#3                U            igb2
                            xx.xx.129.114      link#3                UHS        lo0
                            xx.xx.129.117      link#3                UHS        lo0
                            xx.xx.129.117/32  link#3                U            igb2
                            xx.xx.129.124      link#3                UHS        lo0
                            xx.xx.129.124/32  link#3                U            igb2
                            127.0.0.1              link#7                UH          lo0
                            192.168.1.0/24    link#4                U            igb3
                            192.168.1.1          link#4                UHS        lo0
                            192.168.3.0/24    link#5                U            igb4
                            192.168.3.1          link#5                UHS        lo0
                            192.168.10.0/24  link#2                U            igb1
                            192.168.10.1        link#2                UHS        lo0
                            192.168.20.0/24  link#1                U            igb0
                            192.168.20.1        link#1                UHS        lo0

                            xx.xx.129.113 is the default gateway assigned by ISP
                            xx.xx.129.114-125 is my assigned IP block. Currently only using 114,117,124
                            192.168.3.0/24 is the subnet used for the wireless router - OPT3
                            114-WAN/igb2, 117-OPT1/igb0, 124-OPT2/igb1, LAN/igb0, OPT3/igb4

                            xinetd.txt

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                            • D
                              dcol Banned
                              last edited by

                              The reason I said "I do know that you also have to use the rules to direct traffic" is because there was a time in the past where the LAN any-any rule would not work for some devices on the same LAN subnet unless I gave it a specific rule. That does not seem to be the case now, so any-any is working for all devices on the LAN subnet as it should.

                              Also, that statement does seem to be true for the WAN where there is no any-any rule. Or any interface which does not have an any-any rule.
                              So, does my posted new WAN rules look ok?

                              Dan

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                              • D
                                dcol Banned
                                last edited by

                                Here we go again with the port 19006, see below.

                                192.168.1.2 is my main desktop that I use. I had a TCP monitor running and it did not capture this.

                                LOG2.jpg
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                                • DerelictD
                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                  last edited by

                                  Then you weren't capturing correctly or something else on your network is sending those packets from that IP address.

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                                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                                    dcol Banned
                                    last edited by

                                    Maybe I missed it. can't predict when it happens, but will leave the capture tool running on 192.168.1.2. I have it filtered for incoming and outgoing port 19006.
                                    Is the xinetd.conf I posted earlier correct? It shows 192.168.20.2 tied to port 19006. Why does it do this?

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                                    • DerelictD
                                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                      last edited by

                                      Probably a package. What have you installed and why?

                                      there was a time in the past where the LAN any-any rule would not work for some devices on the same LAN subnet unless I gave it a specific rule.

                                      Poppycock. The firewall NEVER gets in the way there unless you are bridging interfaces or some other edge case.

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                                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                      • DerelictD
                                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                        last edited by

                                        Diagnostics > Command Prompt

                                        Execute: cat /var/etc/xinetd.conf

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                                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          how exactly would the firewall even see that traffic to loopback.. Your pc if wanting to talk to a 127.0.0.1 address wouldn't even put it on the wire, that is localhost.  That traffic doesn't go out on the wire.

                                          So that has to be coming from your firewall, or some sort of port forward that you send to loopback?

                                          service 19006-tcp
                                          {
                                          type = unlisted
                                          bind = 127.0.0.1
                                          port = 19006
                                          socket_type = stream
                                          protocol = tcp
                                          wait = no
                                          user = nobody
                                          server = /usr/bin/nc
                                          server_args = -w 2000 192.168.20.2 993
                                          }

                                          Your running something with NC… netcat, not sure of what package or config settings would create those.. I sure and the hell do not have them that is for sure.

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                                          • H
                                            hda
                                            last edited by

                                            @johnpoz:

                                            .. I sure and the hell do not have them that is for sure.

                                            Hmmm, scary stuff for a firewall… 8)

                                            Netcat is often referred to as a "Swiss Army knife" utility, and for a good reason. Just like the multi-function usefulness of the venerable Swiss Army pocket knife, netcat's functionality is as helpful. Some of its features include port scanning, transferring files, port listening and it can be used a backdoor.

                                            [http://www.catonmat.net/blog/unix-utilities-netcat/]

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