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    2 gateways with the same wan

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    • johnpozJ Offline
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      And what is the point of giving you 2 gateways on the same connection?

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        Alucardko
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        @johnpoz:

        And what is the point of giving you 2 gateways on the same connection?

        I explain it, in the third post

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          that doesn't explain the POINT of it.. You only have 1 connection???  If the connection is down then both gateways would not be reachable!!  So does their gateway 1 go down while you still have a connection??  WTF???

          And while on this second gateway you only get 3mbps from a 100mbps connection..  that is not really a failover or backup ;)

          So they gave you this 2nd gateway and said use this is a backup?  Because our primary router goes down??

          I see zero point to this sort of setup..  Point to the gateway that gives you 100mbps and call it a day..  If your internet goes down - try changing over to the other.. Does that work??  If so call the the ISP and say WTF!!!

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            Alucardko
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            1. You are Wrong, I Dont know how is the ISP configuration but sometimes the 100mbps is down, then I can change the most important pc to another network (only changing the gateway)

            2.  I dont want failover, I know 3mbps is not enough for a network, is only for a few machines

            3. Yes

            4. Yes that Work, my ISP provide me from a fortinet, I cant see anything of that configuration and obvious I cant change anything of that

            Then you can help me, with the configuration that I want?

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              doktornotor Banned
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              I should have purchased more popcorn…

              @Alucardko:

              1. You are Wrong, I Dont know how is the ISP configuration but sometimes the 100mbps is down, then I can change the most important pc to another network (only changing the gateway)

              Wonderful. So, perhaps the ISP could implement a failover on their own infrastructure, instead of suggesting their customers to configure similar WTFs?!

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                KOM
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                I don't think what you are trying to do is possible without another NIC, and at this point I am stepping back.

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                  doktornotor Banned
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                  Well you could create 2 VLANs on your WAN and keep on messing with this nonsense, but I'd rather switch ISPs.

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                    Alucardko
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                    I ask to my ISP about how exactly work my service, I will try explain you MY isp have 2 contracts, with 2 companies (one 100mbps, another 3mbps), then they have connected the 2 services to a fortinet, then they make my subnet 192.168.17.xx that subnet have 2 gateways (100mbps and 3bmps) then I can use any of that services, only changing the gateways

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                      doktornotor Banned
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                      @Alucardko:

                      have 2 contracts, with 2 companies (one 100mbps, another 3mbps), then they have connected the 2 services to a fortinet

                      Good that we know now, after two days of asking you to produce a network scheme.  ::) ::) ::) Once you've asked both ISPs about how each of their services should be configured, got rid of the Fortinet and plugged both to pfSense box, you might even get a working pfSense multi-WAN setup.

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                        Alucardko
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                        @doktornotor:

                        @Alucardko:

                        have 2 contracts, with 2 companies (one 100mbps, another 3mbps), then they have connected the 2 services to a fortinet

                        Good that we know now, after two days of asking you to produce a network scheme.  ::) ::) ::) Once you've asked both ISPs about how each of their services should be configured, got rid of the Fortinet and plugged both to pfSense box, you might even get a working pfSense multi-WAN setup.

                        I cant change anything in the fortinet, they only gave me one  ethernet  wire with the service, I do not even know where the fortinet is physically

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                            So your connection comes in from a fortinet..  And this fortinet has 2 different connections..  Why would the fortinet not be set to use this 2nd connection if 1st fails?

                            That is how any sane person would set it up.. Expecting the customer to use 2 different gateways on the same network is moronic…

                            Good luck...

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                              Alucardko
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                              @johnpoz:

                              So your connection comes in from a fortinet..  And this fortinet has 2 different connections..  Why would the fortinet not be set to use this 2nd connection if 1st fails?

                              That is how any sane person would set it up.. Expecting the customer to use 2 different gateways on the same network is moronic…

                              Good luck...

                              Because 3mbps is not enough for a network, but ok, I'm going to a corner to cry jeje

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                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                how are you suppose to know the 1st connection went down??  You would not loose an interface, etc.  So how do you cut over automatically?  you would have to setup some monitor to some outside IP..

                                Their fortinet interface most likely would go down if the ISP goes down for that connection, etc.

                                No shit 3mbps is not enough..  but as a failover/backup its better than ZERO..  But if they are bringing these into a fortinet, and then just handing you 1 connection, why should you as the customer have to figure out when to fail over?  If it was your fortinet ok, but your saying its this companies…  So they should figure out the failover and hand you your 1 connection that you use..

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                                  Alucardko
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                                  well, Then it is not possible to do what I said? (2 ip ranges, one with one gateway and the other with the other gateway? jeje)

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                    Depending on what you want to do..

                                    You would have to create a monitor for your default gateway that goes somewhere outbound and not just your gateway address which is the default.  You then have another gateway setup that uses your other gateway 2 address.

                                    You shouldn't have to jump through these hoops.. The company you paid that put in the fortinet needs to do their job!!

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