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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
    last edited by Feb 3, 2017, 5:28 PM

    Ah Ok. No em or fxp NIC on there. But as I said the fxp NIC should appear by default in any pfSense version on the XTM5.

    Steve

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      Smoothrunnings
      last edited by Feb 4, 2017, 3:24 AM

      Has anyone tried to look through the Watchguard code to see if it's possible to get their VPN accelerator card working?

      I am asking because I just ran R-Tools through my XTM 5 series 1GB CF Cards and managed to get the entire Linux OS with all the libs etc. It looks like the use ELF. It also has another partition that has  Executable, Libary, and DLL. I don't see any Dll's in there but I do see ELF Library, Executable and Module at are ELF files.

      Just wondering. :)

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        chpalmer
        last edited by Feb 4, 2017, 6:01 AM

        https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=43574.msg363472#msg363472

        https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=43574.msg412994#msg412994

        You havent read all 29 pages!    ;D

        Triggering snowflakes one by one..
        Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by Feb 4, 2017, 2:41 PM

          Yes, unfortunately we hit a road block there. Doesn't look like anything has changed in last 3 years either….

          Those chips are everywhere, it would be nice to see them supported. I still don't hold out much hope though.

          Steve

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            Smoothrunnings
            last edited by Feb 5, 2017, 12:30 AM

            Is there a bios update for the XTM 5 series?

            I got two more XTM 5 series today for a really good price. But I noticed with the first one that has 4GB of RAM on it that PFSense is only seeing 3005MB and I am also experiencing some weird with the boot. After installing Pfsense onto the HD and rebooting I can see all the info on the screen after the bios, but after that when I boot the system is black with the cursor moving on the screen, the Pfsense loads up find as I it beeps normally.

            So I thought maybe the bios is out of date a bit?

            Thanks,

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by Feb 5, 2017, 1:21 AM

              The XTM 5 was updated during it's lifecycle. I believe the second gen just had newer CPUs and same board but I've never had one to be sure.

              What models are they?

              3GB detected sounds a lot like it's running 32bit.

              I have seen issues with putty where the cursor moved but doesn't write anything at a reboot. If you restart putty at the reboot it usually displays fine after that.

              I'm not aware of any updated BIOS versions but I've only ever looked in the one box.

              Steve

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                Smoothrunnings
                last edited by Feb 5, 2017, 3:16 AM

                @stephenw10:

                The XTM 5 was updated during it's lifecycle. I believe the second gen just had newer CPUs and same board but I've never had one to be sure.

                What models are they?

                3GB detected sounds a lot like it's running 32bit.

                I have seen issues with putty where the cursor moved but doesn't write anything at a reboot. If you restart putty at the reboot it usually displays fine after that.

                I'm not aware of any updated BIOS versions but I've only ever looked in the one box.

                Steve

                CPU maybe?

                It has a Celeron 440 in it. I tried a E6700 that I had kicking around but it still only shows 3005MB, the bios shows 4062MB. I am using the same version I installed on my other boxes which have Core 2 Quad 9450's and 4GB of RAM and they show 4GB of ram in PfSense.. maybe I have to redownload and flash the CF card again?

                Thanks,

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by Feb 5, 2017, 11:56 AM

                  It should be pretty obvious if you're running 32bit, it reported in multiple places. That's about the only reason I can think of for seeing 3GB though.

                  Does it report that at the beginning of the boot also? For example (not an XTM5):

                  Copyright (c) 1992-2016 The FreeBSD Project.
                  Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
                  	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
                  FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
                  FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p7 #9 5ee3f5a72da(RELENG_2_4): Fri Feb  3 13:37:02 CST 2017
                      root@buildbot2.netgate.com:/builder/ce/tmp/obj/builder/ce/tmp/FreeBSD-src/sys/pfSense amd64
                  FreeBSD clang version 3.8.0 (tags/RELEASE_380/final 262564) (based on LLVM 3.8.0)
                  VT(vga): resolution 640x480
                  CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3220 CPU @ 3.30GHz (3292.60-MHz K8-class CPU)
                    Origin="GenuineIntel"  Id=0x306a9  Family=0x6  Model=0x3a  Stepping=9
                    Features=0xbfebfbff <fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,dts,acpi,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ss,htt,tm,pbe>Features2=0x3d9ae3bf <sse3,pclmulqdq,dtes64,mon,ds_cpl,vmx,est,tm2,ssse3,cx16,xtpr,pdcm,pcid,sse4.1,sse4.2,popcnt,tscdlt,xsave,osxsave,avx,f16c>AMD Features=0x28000800 <syscall,rdtscp,lm>AMD Features2=0x1 <lahf>Structured Extended Features=0x281 <fsgsbase,smep,erms>XSAVE Features=0x1 <xsaveopt>VT-x: (disabled in BIOS) PAT,HLT,MTF,PAUSE,EPT,UG,VPID
                    TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
                  real memory  = 8589934592 (8192 MB)
                  avail memory = 8144412672 (7767 MB)</xsaveopt></fsgsbase,smep,erms></lahf></syscall,rdtscp,lm></sse3,pclmulqdq,dtes64,mon,ds_cpl,vmx,est,tm2,ssse3,cx16,xtpr,pdcm,pcid,sse4.1,sse4.2,popcnt,tscdlt,xsave,osxsave,avx,f16c></fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,dts,acpi,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ss,htt,tm,pbe>
                  

                  Steve

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                    chpalmer
                    last edited by Feb 5, 2017, 1:20 PM

                    Compare your bios settings. Especially when it comes to video memory. Yours may have some memory reserved for other functions.  I know mine did but no longer..  ;)

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                      Smoothrunnings
                      last edited by Feb 5, 2017, 3:29 PM

                      @stephenw10:

                      It should be pretty obvious if you're running 32bit, it reported in multiple places. That's about the only reason I can think of for seeing 3GB though.

                      Does it report that at the beginning of the boot also? For example (not an XTM5):

                      Copyright (c) 1992-2016 The FreeBSD Project.
                      Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
                      	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
                      FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
                      FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p7 #9 5ee3f5a72da(RELENG_2_4): Fri Feb  3 13:37:02 CST 2017
                          root@buildbot2.netgate.com:/builder/ce/tmp/obj/builder/ce/tmp/FreeBSD-src/sys/pfSense amd64
                      FreeBSD clang version 3.8.0 (tags/RELEASE_380/final 262564) (based on LLVM 3.8.0)
                      VT(vga): resolution 640x480
                      CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3220 CPU @ 3.30GHz (3292.60-MHz K8-class CPU)
                        Origin="GenuineIntel"  Id=0x306a9  Family=0x6  Model=0x3a  Stepping=9
                        Features=0xbfebfbff <fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,dts,acpi,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ss,htt,tm,pbe>Features2=0x3d9ae3bf <sse3,pclmulqdq,dtes64,mon,ds_cpl,vmx,est,tm2,ssse3,cx16,xtpr,pdcm,pcid,sse4.1,sse4.2,popcnt,tscdlt,xsave,osxsave,avx,f16c>AMD Features=0x28000800 <syscall,rdtscp,lm>AMD Features2=0x1 <lahf>Structured Extended Features=0x281 <fsgsbase,smep,erms>XSAVE Features=0x1 <xsaveopt>VT-x: (disabled in BIOS) PAT,HLT,MTF,PAUSE,EPT,UG,VPID
                        TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
                      real memory  = 8589934592 (8192 MB)
                      avail memory = 8144412672 (7767 MB)</xsaveopt></fsgsbase,smep,erms></lahf></syscall,rdtscp,lm></sse3,pclmulqdq,dtes64,mon,ds_cpl,vmx,est,tm2,ssse3,cx16,xtpr,pdcm,pcid,sse4.1,sse4.2,popcnt,tscdlt,xsave,osxsave,avx,f16c></fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,dts,acpi,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ss,htt,tm,pbe>
                      

                      Steve

                      Yeah sorry. :(

                      I forgot I had installed the 32bit version on my CF card to do the x750e and x1250e!

                      All is good now.

                      Thanks.

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                        billiumg
                        last edited by Feb 12, 2017, 3:53 AM Feb 11, 2017, 3:44 AM

                        28 pages and cannot find my solution.  Anyway, thanks in advance for the assist.

                        XTM 505 with 1GB CF (install image)
                        1gig RAM
                        60G SSD for OS
                        after booting and it goes for about 3 minutes, it gets stuck at ada1:  Previously was known as ad4 and hangs.
                        tried difference drives, both 32 and 64 bit images
                        even tried direct install to ssd using vmware.
                        they all stop at the same place.

                        I have attached the putty screens.

                        all of you are Gods of the computers  - long live the Gods - beer?

                        [firebox pfsense error.txt](/public/imported_attachments/1/firebox pfsense error.txt)

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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by Feb 11, 2017, 2:54 PM

                          I don't see the putty screenshots attached can you repost them?

                          Steve

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                            billiumg
                            last edited by Feb 12, 2017, 3:54 AM

                            thanks i put them on original post.  but will add here also.

                            [firebox pfsense error.txt](/public/imported_attachments/1/firebox pfsense error.txt)

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                              billiumg
                              last edited by Feb 12, 2017, 5:51 AM Feb 12, 2017, 4:59 AM

                              so after playing with this….
                              i have determined it is stopping at the point after ada1: perviously was known as ad5.  So what is the next part of the script?

                              this is where it is hanging.  What is the next step?  How do i fix? enable / disable.  Was going to try nano image, but do not have a large enough cf card.

                              from a video is looking smp: ap cpu #  .........

                              ok more weird.  for kicks removed drives and just booted from CF Card and it passed the issue.....  So will have to see about larger cf card later.

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by Feb 12, 2017, 1:32 PM

                                Ah, you are trying to boot the install image running from a CF card in order to install to an SSD?

                                I'm not sure I've ever tried that. What image are you using there exactly?

                                This looks like it's a Nano+VGA image which seems wrong and also wouldn't fit on a 1GB CF card:

                                FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p5 #0 7307492(RELENG_2_3_2): Tue Jul 19 14:11:41 CDT 2016
                                    root@ce23-i386-builder:/builder/pfsense-232/tmp/obj/builder/pfsense-232/tmp/FreeBSD-src/sys/pfSense_wrap_vga i386
                                

                                You should definitely use a 64bit image with that hardware.

                                I take it you tried to boot the installer from USB and it failed?

                                Steve

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                                  billiumg
                                  last edited by Feb 13, 2017, 3:01 AM

                                  yes trying to install from cf card to ssd and fails.  same spot no matter which method i use.
                                  I tried both 32 and 64 bit version

                                  pfsense-cd-memstick-serial-2.3.2-release-amd64
                                  pfsense-cd-memstick-serial-2.3.2-release-i386

                                  got a larger cf card today and will be working on it later to see if i can make any difference.

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                                    DeLorean
                                    last edited by Feb 13, 2017, 9:56 AM

                                    @billiumg:

                                    yes trying to install from cf card to ssd and fails.  same spot no matter which method i use.
                                    I tried both 32 and 64 bit version

                                    pfsense-cd-memstick-serial-2.3.2-release-amd64
                                    pfsense-cd-memstick-serial-2.3.2-release-i386

                                    got a larger cf card today and will be working on it later to see if i can make any difference.

                                    Do you download these versions from the official pfSense site ?
                                    Because on the official pfSense site, there is no pfsense-cd-…...
                                    For a XTM5 you must use pfSense-CE-memstick-serial-release-amd64

                                    https://nyifiles.pfsense.org/mirror/downloads/pfSense-CE-memstick-serial-2.3.2-RELEASE-amd64.img.gz

                                    This can be placed on a 1Gb CF card, preferable a fast CF card like 80x or so.
                                    During install don't choose "Quick / Easy Install", because it will then try to install to the CF card instead of your SSD,
                                    you must choose "Custom Install" and accept al the suggested amounts of space.
                                    This is the way that i have used for installing pfSense to a SSD on a XTM5

                                    Grtz
                                    DeLorean

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                                      A Former User
                                      last edited by Feb 14, 2017, 2:18 AM

                                      @stephenw10:

                                      The XTM 5 was updated during it's lifecycle. I believe the second gen just had newer CPUs and same board but I've never had one to be sure.

                                      What models are they?

                                      3GB detected sounds a lot like it's running 32bit.

                                      I have seen issues with putty where the cursor moved but doesn't write anything at a reboot. If you restart putty at the reboot it usually displays fine after that.

                                      I'm not aware of any updated BIOS versions but I've only ever looked in the one box.

                                      Steve

                                      Hi, I just got 2 gen 2 box and the board is a 7580T instead of W …  version 1.2

                                      Also the bios dates 26 April 2010, a couple of month newer that the first gen box. No apparent change to the bios from what I am reading here, still locked ...

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                                        chpalmer
                                        last edited by Feb 14, 2017, 4:34 AM

                                        @pierrelucd:

                                        Hi, I just got 2 gen 2 box and the board is a 7580T instead of W …  version 1.2

                                        Also the bios dates 26 April 2010, a couple of month newer that the first gen box. No apparent change to the bios from what I am reading here, still locked ...

                                        Love to have a copy of that BIOS..  ;D

                                        I probably did and wrote over it recently.  ::)

                                        Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                                        Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by Feb 14, 2017, 3:27 PM

                                          Smooth.  ;)

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