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    • _Adrian__
      _Adrian_
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      Any updates ??

      Was thinking if I go this route ( XTM8 ) an E8400 would be nice upgrade since they aren't an arm and a leg anymore… but I do have to say the QX9650 is twice the chip ( literally !!) however its not the "buck" bargain that the E8400 is... But there also the option of the Q9550 or even the Q9650 which are both great options...

      Also having the max RAM 2X2GB wouldn't hurt either. I'm guessing it would call for PC2-6400-2Gb Low Density Non-ECC ??

      Reason behind the Upgrades is the few "streamers" in the house that are being VPN hogs... 4 Clients at 10-15Mbps and my X1250 is getting slow and need to update to a XTM5 or preferably to an XTM8 very soon !

      If it ain't broken, fix it till it is :P

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Is that encryption happening on the X-e box? If it's just passing the encrypted traffic it shouldn't have much trouble.

        I never managed to get hold of an XTM 8. Now I have access to more interesting hardware.  ;)

        However the initial problems we had installing are probably not applicable now as both consoles are active by default and em is the default NIC type.

        Steve

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        • _Adrian__
          _Adrian_
          last edited by

          @stephenw10:

          Is that encryption happening on the X-e box? If it's just passing the encrypted traffic it shouldn't have much trouble.

          I never managed to get hold of an XTM 8. Now I have access to more interesting hardware.  ;)

          However the initial problems we had installing are probably not applicable now as both consoles are active by default and em is the default NIC type.

          Steve

          Yes Steve it is…
          Seems like anytime any heavy streaming / downloading happens the box just bogs down.
          CPU jumps from Idle ( ~ 3-5% ) to Heavy Load ( 90+% ) as well as any local traffic is down down to a crawl ! (2-5mbit on a 170ish mbit service)

          If it ain't broken, fix it till it is :P

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            pglover19
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            I just purchased a XTM 810 from Ebay. I currently have a XTM 525 running pfSense. My goal is to setup a high availability setup between the two.

            My question is about the vga connection on the 810. What do I need to get working with a monitor and what version of the pfsense install file should I use?

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              pglover19
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              Is this correct VGA cable for the XTM 810? It is a 11 pin cable with the blockout on the 3rd pin.

              http://www.ebay.com/itm/Low-Profile-Half-Height-Video-Graphics-Card-VGA-Port-Extension-Cable-11Pin-3-25-/161134847823?hash=item258462a74f:g:k5MAAOxywbNRBOos

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Probably not. It needs to be 2mm pitch: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=61970.msg335371#msg335371 I can't see the pitch specified there.

                No clue if the pinout matches there either. No way of swapping the pins on that connector so you'd have to be lucky.

                Steve

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                  pglover19
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                  @stephenw10:

                  Probably not. It needs to be 2mm pitch: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=61970.msg335371#msg335371 I can't see the pitch specified there.

                  No clue if the pinout matches there either. No way of swapping the pins on that connector so you'd have to be lucky.

                  Steve

                  Ok.. So what can I do to get a display working with the XTM 810 device? I will receive the unit tomorrow.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    You may not need to. Since em is now a default NIC type it might boot completely on the first boot using the Nano image and you can then connect to the webgui via the LAN port.

                    I would at least test that first.

                    Steve

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                      pglover19
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                      @stephenw10:

                      You may not need to. Since em is now a default NIC type it might boot completely on the first boot using the Nano image and you can then connect to the webgui via the LAN port.

                      I would at least test that first.

                      Steve

                      Can you provide me a link to the image I need to install. I will be installing a SSD drive in the XTM 810. So how do I install pfsense on the hard drive? Do I need to have the pfsense installer on a CF card and install first on the CF card? Just trying to figure out how to get pfsense installed on the SSD drive that will be installed in the XTM 810.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        That would be more difficult. You would probably need to install pfSense in some other machine first then move the SSD. You could use the XTM5 you have to do that. As long as you only assign the em NICs it will boot in the XTM8.

                        Steve

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                          pglover19
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                          @stephenw10:

                          That would be more difficult. You would probably need to install pfSense in some other machine first then move the SSD. You could use the XTM5 you have to do that. As long as you only assign the em NICs it will boot in the XTM8.

                          Steve

                          On the install on the XTM 525, I have a LAGG LAN connection using interface em3 & em4.  So, I am wondering if I can make a disk copy of the XTM 525 SSD and use it in the XTM 810?

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            You could do that as long as you don;t have the fxp NIC assigned. Since that doesn't exist on the XTM8 it will stop at the assign interfaces screen (which you won't be able to see) waiting for you input if it is.

                            Though I would probably just install fresh onto the new SSD in the XTM5 then move it across to minimise any additional config you don't need.

                            Steve

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                              pglover19
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                              @stephenw10:

                              You could do that as long as you don;t have the fxp NIC assigned. Since that doesn't exist on the XTM8 it will stop at the assign interfaces screen (which you won't be able to see) waiting for you input if it is.

                              Though I would probably just install fresh onto the new SSD in the XTM5 then move it across to minimise any additional config you don't need.

                              Steve

                              So which pfsense installer should I use?

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                                pglover19
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                                Will the WGXepc64 program work on the XTM 810? If yes, please answer the following questions:

                                1. What folder should be the file be stored in?
                                2. How do you run the program automatically on startup?

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Use whichever installer you used previously on the XTM5 It's the same image type for the XTM8 only the console difference prevents you using it directly.

                                  WGXepc64 will run but may not recognise the box. I've never had access to one to look at the values and add the code.

                                  You can add it to /conf as described here: https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Controlling_hardware_with_WGXepc
                                  In Nano that is shared between slices and kept across an upgrade.

                                  Steve

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                                    pglover19
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                                    @stephenw10:

                                    Use whichever installer you used previously on the XTM5 It's the same image type for the XTM8 only the console difference prevents you using it directly.

                                    WGXepc64 will run but may not recognise the box. I've never had access to one to look at the values and add the code.

                                    You can add it to /conf as described here: https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Controlling_hardware_with_WGXepc
                                    In Nano that is shared between slices and kept across an upgrade.

                                    Steve

                                    I got pfsense installed on a SSD and assigned the LAN interface to em0.

                                    How do I run the WGXepc program on start up? Is there a startup file somewhere?

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      You can use shellcmd to run it at startup, either via the package or manually entering the xml:
                                      https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Executing_commands_at_boot_time

                                      Steve

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                                        pglover19
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                                        Received the XTM 810 today and I can't get pfsense to boot from a SSD. Additionally I can't get vga to work. What am I going to do?

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                                          pglover19
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                                          Got it all working finally.. I had the pin configuration on the make shift VGA cable outlined in this thread wrong. Now able to see pfsense on the screen and configure the LAN and WAN interfaces. I will complete the remaining configuration from the WEB GUI…

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                                            pglover19
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                                            Here are some photos of my make shift VGA connector based on some posts in this thread.

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