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    Multi-WAN gateway failover not switching back to tier 1 gw after back online

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    • DerelictD
      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
      last edited by

      You probably want to kill all connections to the PBX. That would be:

      pfctl -k 0.0.0.0/0 -k 185.83.xxx.xxx

      That will kill everything even phones that are connected out the Tier 1.

      You can try just killing one side of the connection that is tied to WAN_EFM with:

      pfctl -i igb2 -k 0.0.0.0/0 -k 185.83.xxx.xxx

      If, when the phones reconnect, they use the Tier1 connection, great. In my testing they continued to use the other connection so it doesn't look like you can do that.

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        jmonline
        last edited by

        Ok so the following command cleared the sessions stuck on the failover WAN.

        pfctl -i igb2 -k 0.0.0.0/0 -k 185.83.xxx.xxx

        This is a good step forward since I can now manually force the sessions back when I know they haven't moved on their own.

        I presume I may be able to scheduled this via some sort of script to run a specified period of time after the primary connection comes back online…...?

        Thanks for help so far Derelict :)

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          devmaybe
          last edited by

          Hello,

          I know this is an old thread but I have the same problem and now I am able to reliably reproduce the behavior in a test environment.

          If the "primary" WAN is a PPPoE connection and the secondary WAN is a "standard" static or DHCP assigned IP address connection when the primary goes down failover to the secondary work as expected but when the primary comes back up no traffic will flow through it.

          In such cases on my production systems I usually edit my default gateway entry in System->Routing.
          I uncheck the "Default Gateway" mark, re-check it and then save and apply.
          Traffic starts flowing again through the PPPoE connection.

          The same always works in my virtual machines test environment too.

          I hope this can help in tracking down the source of the problem or at least in finding some solution.

          Thanks

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            sandrino
            last edited by

            Hi all,

            same problem WAN1 tier 1 (cable - default GW - 2Mb/2Mb), WAN2 tier 1 (WiMAX pppoe 12Mb/3Mb)  weigth 1 WAN1 : 4 WAN2

            If WAN2 goes down all traffic switch on WAN1

            When WAN2 return online (GatewayGrops all online) all connections still in WAN1.

            If I reload filter everythinks turns all rigth WAN1 1 : WAN2 4 as weigth.

            I don't use DNS Forwarder and fror monitor I use IPS dns (2 per connections).

            Please help!!!!

            Bye
            Sandro

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              sandrino
              last edited by

              Hi

              in "miscellaneus config" under "Gateway Monitoring" there are:

              Gateway Monitoring
              State Killing on Gateway Failure
              Flush all states when a gateway goes down The monitoring process will flush all states when a gateway goes down if this box is checked.

              Skip rules when gateway is down
              Do not create rules when gateway is down By default, when a rule has a gateway specified and this gateway is down, the rule is created omitting the gateway. This option overrides that behavior by omitting the entire rule instead.

              Someone could explain it?

              Thanks
              Bye
              Sandro

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                devmaybe
                last edited by

                I think I have found a solution.

                I have tested it on 2.3.2 release, it consists of 2 steps

                1. Take note of the name you assigned to your PPPoE connection (WAN2 in this example)
                2. Add the following lines at the end of "/usr/local/sbin/ppp-linkup" script (between "fi" and "exit 0" lines)

                –-----------------------
                fi

                sleep 5
                /etc/rc.newwanip wan2

                exit 0

                In all my tests traffic switches back correctly.

                Note: without the "sleep" instructions I was having mixed results, maybe is only a timing problem with pppoe activation?

                Bye

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                  SecureIS
                  last edited by

                  +1 that failback would be very valuable. I have a deployment where the Tier 2 connection is pay per GB so it would be nice to be able to automate failover AND failback but I have to keep that WAN disconnected to make sure no connections get stuck on it. It's not a PPPoE link so sadly I can't use an up/down script for this :(

                  We need a setting for "Flush all states when a lower tier gateway comes back up. The monitoring process will flush all states when a lower tier gateway comes up if this box is checked"

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                  • luckman212L
                    luckman212 LAYER 8
                    last edited by

                    I'm working on a script to kill VOIP states when WAN1 (primary) comes back online.  As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, this is a critical feature in real-world scenarios due to (a) costly metered backup connections as well as (b) SIP interop issues when devices behind the same LAN are seen registering from different public IPs.  So I won't rehash all of that. I am trying to automate pfctl from the rc.gateway_alarm script that gets called on WANUP.  I also see that a PR has been recently merged that might help make this even easier and less hacky.  Has anyone hooked into these new functions yet to make this more reliable?

                    TL;DR— pfctl is not killing all of the related states. Can someone help me to understand something regarding states?

                    • Assume vlan100 is dedicated for voice, with subnet 192.168.20.0/24
                    • WAN1=primary, WAN2=backup
                    • When a "fail back" WAN2–>WAN1 event happens, I need to kill all states: (any)->WAN2->vlan100 and vlan100->WAN2->(any)
                    • I try using a command like:

                    pfctl -i igb0_vlan100 -k 0.0.0.0/0

                    But, this only seems to kill the states originating from inside the LAN. There are still tracked states via WAN2 that are NAT'ted to –> internal igb0_vlan100 IPs. Do I also need to run the commands like this instead?

                    pfctl -k 192.168.20.0/24 -k 0.0.0.0/0
                    pfctl -k 0.0.0.0/0 -k 192.168.20.0/24

                    Or, some other command?  Is there a better way….  ???

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                      nemanager
                      last edited by

                      Any news ?  :(

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                        kimkhan
                        last edited by

                        Failback to default WAN works for me.

                        I have a Gigabit Fiber connection and a Cable modem connection. I put one of them as Tier1 and the other as Tier2.

                        I used 8.8.8.8 for one and 8.8.4.4 for the other.

                        But just following all the instructions in pfsense documentation and postings here in the forum that suggests with creating groups and different level of Tiers and etc. will not work unless you have the 'Default gateway switching' box checked. You can find it under System > Advanced > Miscellaneous

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                        I tested with disconnecting WAN1 and going to whatismyip.com and then plugging WAN1 back and going to a different what is my ip site. Don't go to the first one as it will be cached and will not show your original/default wan IP.

                        Or you can just do a ping.

                        Let me know if this helps. I can also post my configurations if you need to see.

                        KK

                        Netgate SG-2440
                        2.3.3-RELEASE-p1

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                          red_cat1930
                          last edited by

                          2.3.3-RELEASE-p1 (amd64), MultiWAN, VM on Hyper-V

                          WAN1 ( tier2, monitor ip 8.8.4.4 )
                          WAN2 ( tier1, monitor ip 8.8.8.8 ).

                          Today WAN2 had alarm latecy but no clear latency occured despite the fact line becomes stable (accordingly to dashboard)

                          Usual (System logs->Gateways):
                          Apr 12 03:29:32 dpinger WAN2_DHCP 8.8.8.8: Clear latency 39052us stddev 2978us loss 5%
                          Apr 12 03:28:34 dpinger WAN2_DHCP 8.8.8.8: Alarm latency 34409us stddev 429us loss 22%

                          Today (no clear latency event):
                          –-
                          Apr 13 13:19:23 dpinger WAN2_DHCP 8.8.8.8: Alarm latency 34494us stddev 342us loss 21%

                          All clients from from LAN were using WAN1 until i manually simulated WAN2 disconnect (set 1.1.1.1 as monitor ip for a minute, then revert back to 8.8.8.8 )

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                            carmico
                            last edited by

                            same problem here

                            failover is working tier1 to tier2, but when tier1 recovers, monitor says "online" but the traffic doesn't switch back to tier1 , remains on tier2

                            PFsense ver. 2.3.3-RELEASE-p1

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                              ronnysa
                              last edited by

                              @carmico:

                              same problem here

                              failover is working tier1 to tier2, but when tier1 recovers, monitor says "online" but the traffic doesn't switch back to tier1 , remains on tier2

                              PFsense ver. 2.3.3-RELEASE-p1

                              I am having the exact same problem here.

                              2.3.3-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                              built on Thu Mar 09 07:17:41 CST 2017
                              FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p17

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                                jono_white
                                last edited by

                                The fail back seems to work providing the PC's connection is left idle for 20 Seconds or so, but if theres an active connection after your primary connection goes down (voip, video/audio streaming or even a continuous ping), it seems to remain on the redundant connection.

                                The following script seems to work for my situation (4g modem failover with limited quota), it's nowhere near perfect but it'll shut the 4g interface down long enough for the states to be killed when the Primary WAN is up ,  would be better if it exited if there was no active states on 4G but meh..

                                (Using cron to run every 5 minutes or so,  */5 * * * * root /bin/sh /root/routercheck.sh)

                                #!/bin/sh

                                check_wan1=8.8.8.8
                                check_wan2=8.8.4.4

                                wan_ipaddress=ifconfig rl0 | grep 'inet ' | awk '{ print $2}' | cut -d'/' -f1
                                backupwan_ipaddress=ifconfig rl1 | grep 'inet ' | awk '{ print $2}' | cut -d'/' -f1

                                ping -c 2 -S {backupwan_ipaddress} ${check_wan2} > /dev/null 2>&1
                                wan2_resp=$?

                                backupwan_resp=expr ${wan2_resp}

                                if [ ${backupwan_resp} -gt 0 ]; then
                                    exit 1
                                fi

                                ping -c 2 -S ${wan_ipaddress} ${check_wan1} > /dev/null 2>&1
                                wan1_resp=$?

                                wan_resp=expr ${wan1_resp}

                                if [ ${wan_resp} -eq 0 ]; then

                                #service netif restart rl1   
                                ifconfig rl1 down;sleep 15;ifconfig rl1 up

                                fi

                                #end

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                                  eng1tx
                                  last edited by

                                  @jono_white:

                                  The fail back seems to work providing the PC's connection is left idle for 20 Seconds or so, but if theres an active connection after your primary connection goes down (voip, video/audio streaming or even a continuous ping), it seems to remain on the redundant connection.

                                  The following script seems to work for my situation (4g modem failover with limited quota), it's nowhere near perfect but it'll shut the 4g interface down long enough for the states to be killed when the Primary WAN is up ,  would be better if it exited if there was no active states on 4G but meh..

                                  (Using cron to run every 5 minutes or so,  */5 * * * * root /bin/sh /root/routercheck.sh)

                                  #!/bin/sh

                                  check_wan1=8.8.8.8
                                  check_wan2=8.8.4.4

                                  wan_ipaddress=ifconfig rl0 | grep 'inet ' | awk '{ print $2}' | cut -d'/' -f1
                                  backupwan_ipaddress=ifconfig rl1 | grep 'inet ' | awk '{ print $2}' | cut -d'/' -f1

                                  ping -c 2 -S {backupwan_ipaddress} ${check_wan2} > /dev/null 2>&1
                                  wan2_resp=$?

                                  backupwan_resp=expr ${wan2_resp}

                                  if [ ${backupwan_resp} -gt 0 ]; then
                                      exit 1
                                  fi

                                  ping -c 2 -S ${wan_ipaddress} ${check_wan1} > /dev/null 2>&1
                                  wan1_resp=$?

                                  wan_resp=expr ${wan1_resp}

                                  if [ ${wan_resp} -eq 0 ]; then
                                                 
                                  #service netif restart rl1   
                                  ifconfig rl1 down;sleep 15;ifconfig rl1 up

                                  fi

                                  #end

                                  Thank you for this…

                                  I am not a script writer, but it would appear I need to change rl0 and rl1 to my specific interfaces.  Any other changes necessary?

                                  Also, I have searched for a couple of hours and still cannot find what directory to install the script to, and what command to run at CLI to test.  I see that the "Filer" pkg was the preferred way, but is no longer available on my version, 2.3.4.

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                                    jono_white
                                    last edited by

                                    Yeah , it needs to be changed to the physical interface names, not the name assigned in pfsense. script location can be anywhere, i just saved mine under /root/failback.sh , you'll need to allow it to run after saving, chmod 775 scriptname.sh should do it, aslong as the path in your cron points to the script it can go anywhere,

                                    Thinking it may be better to just leave the 4g interface down until the wan stops responding though, it may have a better outcome, but it still seems to do the job

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                                      jono_white
                                      last edited by

                                      i've changed it so the 4g is down until the primary wan stops working, this time cron is set every minute, the most time you should lose connection is maybe 70 or 80 seconds or so as it takes some time for the gateway to register as online again

                                      #!/bin/sh

                                      check_wan1=8.8.8.8
                                      #check_wan2=8.8.4.4

                                      wan_ipaddress=ifconfig rl0 | grep 'inet ' | awk '{ print $2}' | cut -d'/' -f1
                                      #backupwan_ipaddress=ifconfig rl1 | grep 'inet ' | awk '{ print $2}' | cut -d'/' -f1

                                      #ping -c 2 -S {backupwan_ipaddress} ${check_wan2} > /dev/null 2>&1
                                      #wan2_resp=$?

                                      #backupwan_resp=expr ${wan2_resp}

                                      #if [ ${backupwan_resp} -eq 1 ]; then
                                      #    exit 1

                                      #fi

                                      ping -c 2 -S ${wan_ipaddress} ${check_wan1} > /dev/null 2>&1
                                      wan1_resp=$?

                                      wan_resp=expr ${wan1_resp}

                                      if [ ${wan_resp} -eq 0 ]; then

                                      ifconfig rl1 down

                                      fi

                                      if [ ${wan_resp} -gt 0 ]; then

                                      #service netif restart rl1
                                      ifconfig rl1 up

                                      fi

                                      #end

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                                        David127
                                        last edited by

                                        Hello.

                                        I have a similar problem with failover. I use one openvpn client as tier1 and the second openvpn client as tier2.
                                        After tier1 is online, pfsense does not switch back from tier2 to tier1.

                                        Is the solution from kimkhan suitable for me? Any other solutions?

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                                          nemanager
                                          last edited by

                                          Dear pfSense Staff, this is a very important issue, we can find a solution? :-)

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                                            David127
                                            last edited by

                                            I have perhaps found my problem in pfSense 2.3.4.

                                            My setup in System > Routing > Gateway Groups:

                                            OpenVPN Client1 = tier1
                                            OpenVPN Client2 = tier2

                                            I have not set 'Default gateway switching' or anything else.

                                            In System > Routing > Gateways I have set:

                                            Monitor IP of OpenVPN Client1 = 8.8.8.8
                                            Monitor IP of OpenVPN Client2 = 8.8.4.4

                                            If I disable OpenVPN Client1, then pfsense switches to OpenVPN Client2 correctly.
                                            But only after I have activated 'Apply Settings' in "System > Routing > Gateways"

                                            If I activate OpenVPN Client1, then pfsense switches back to OpenVPN Client1.
                                            But only after I have activated 'Apply Settings' in "System > Routing > Gateways" again.

                                            Does somebody has any idea, which settings should I make?

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