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      doktornotor Banned
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      If it doesn't work with one of the options in System > Advanced > Miscellaneous > Thermal Sensors then probably nothing.

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        esquire1968
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        I tried both possibilities. Same result 9 degrees …

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          whosmatt
          last edited by

          @esquire1968:

          I tried both possibilities. Same result 9 degrees …

          I'd just ignore it.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Hmm, that should work with the Intel on-die sensor. That's an Atom D525 right?

            Steve

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              lra
              last edited by

              @stephenw10:

              Hmm, that should work with the Intel on-die sensor. That's an Atom D525 right?

              Steve

              On Linux the FW-7541D (Atom D525 with w83627dhg chip) uses the "w83627ehf" kernel module for sensor info.  Possibly a clue for the FreeBSD case.

              Lonnie

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Mmm, lm-sensors uses the SuperIO chip but the Intel Coretemp driver reads from the in the on-die sensor via a CPU register. It should be reading those without a problem.

                The fact it's only reading from 1 core seems suspicious. Like maybe it got a dead core or somehow a different CPU. The 7541had a number of variants but they all had the D525.

                Perhaps you are running on a customised box OP?

                Steve

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                  esquire1968
                  last edited by

                  The info from Lannerinc was to use 'lm-sensors' and they sent me a config file.

                  Do you knowe where I can download lm-sensors an how I can install it? www.lm-sensors.org is dead!

                  Thomas

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    You can't use lmsensors in FreeBSD, there's no port as far as I know.

                    There used to be an equivalent program or sorts, mbmon, but I think that too is obsolete these days.

                    It looks like you have either an odd cpu or more likely an odd BIOS that is returning the wrong values. Not much can be done I'm afraid.

                    Does it show correctly in the BIOS hardware health screen?

                    Steve

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                      esquire1968
                      last edited by

                      The Bios shows the right temperatures:

                      System Temperature: 50*C/122*F
                      CPU Temperature:    38*C/100*F
                      

                      The pfSense Dashboard shows 10*C!
                      No idea! :-\

                      Thomas

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        What do see returned by:

                        sysctl dev.cpu
                        

                        For reference:

                        
                        dev.cpu.3.temperature: 52.0C
                        dev.cpu.3.coretemp.throttle_log: 0
                        dev.cpu.3.coretemp.tjmax: 100.0C
                        dev.cpu.3.coretemp.resolution: 1
                        dev.cpu.3.coretemp.delta: 48
                        dev.cpu.3.cx_method: C1/hlt
                        dev.cpu.3.cx_usage_counters: 16826
                        dev.cpu.3.cx_usage: 100.00% last 8616us
                        dev.cpu.3.cx_lowest: C1
                        dev.cpu.3.cx_supported: C1/1/0
                        dev.cpu.3.%parent: acpi0
                        dev.cpu.3.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
                        dev.cpu.3.%location: handle=\_PR_.P004
                        dev.cpu.3.%driver: cpu
                        dev.cpu.3.%desc: ACPI CPU
                        dev.cpu.2.temperature: 52.0C
                        dev.cpu.2.coretemp.throttle_log: 0
                        dev.cpu.2.coretemp.tjmax: 100.0C
                        dev.cpu.2.coretemp.resolution: 1
                        dev.cpu.2.coretemp.delta: 48
                        dev.cpu.2.cx_method: C1/hlt
                        dev.cpu.2.cx_usage_counters: 12970
                        dev.cpu.2.cx_usage: 100.00% last 17us
                        dev.cpu.2.cx_lowest: C1
                        dev.cpu.2.cx_supported: C1/1/0
                        dev.cpu.2.%parent: acpi0
                        dev.cpu.2.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
                        dev.cpu.2.%location: handle=\_PR_.P003
                        dev.cpu.2.%driver: cpu
                        dev.cpu.2.%desc: ACPI CPU
                        dev.cpu.1.temperature: 53.0C
                        dev.cpu.1.coretemp.throttle_log: 0
                        dev.cpu.1.coretemp.tjmax: 100.0C
                        dev.cpu.1.coretemp.resolution: 1
                        dev.cpu.1.coretemp.delta: 47
                        dev.cpu.1.cx_method: C1/hlt
                        dev.cpu.1.cx_usage_counters: 15998
                        dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% last 11984us
                        dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1
                        dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/1/0
                        dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0
                        dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
                        dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.P002
                        dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu
                        dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU
                        dev.cpu.0.temperature: 53.0C
                        dev.cpu.0.coretemp.throttle_log: 0
                        dev.cpu.0.coretemp.tjmax: 100.0C
                        dev.cpu.0.coretemp.resolution: 1
                        dev.cpu.0.coretemp.delta: 47
                        dev.cpu.0.cx_method: C1/hlt
                        dev.cpu.0.cx_usage_counters: 23983
                        dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% last 7565us
                        dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1
                        dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1/0
                        dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0
                        dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
                        dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.P001
                        dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu
                        dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU
                        dev.cpu.%parent:
                        
                        

                        Steve

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                          esquire1968
                          last edited by

                          dev.cpu.3.temperature: 9.0C
                          dev.cpu.3.coretemp.throttle_log: 0
                          dev.cpu.3.coretemp.tjmax: 100.0C
                          dev.cpu.3.coretemp.resolution: 1
                          dev.cpu.3.coretemp.delta: 91
                          dev.cpu.3.cx_usage: 100.00% last 4183us
                          dev.cpu.3.cx_lowest: C1
                          dev.cpu.3.cx_supported: C1/1/0
                          dev.cpu.3.%parent: acpi0
                          dev.cpu.3.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
                          dev.cpu.3.%location: handle=\_PR_.P004
                          dev.cpu.3.%driver: cpu
                          dev.cpu.3.%desc: ACPI CPU
                          dev.cpu.2.temperature: 9.0C
                          dev.cpu.2.coretemp.throttle_log: 0
                          dev.cpu.2.coretemp.tjmax: 100.0C
                          dev.cpu.2.coretemp.resolution: 1
                          dev.cpu.2.coretemp.delta: 91
                          dev.cpu.2.cx_usage: 100.00% last 179us
                          dev.cpu.2.cx_lowest: C1
                          dev.cpu.2.cx_supported: C1/1/0
                          dev.cpu.2.%parent: acpi0
                          dev.cpu.2.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
                          dev.cpu.2.%location: handle=\_PR_.P003
                          dev.cpu.2.%driver: cpu
                          dev.cpu.2.%desc: ACPI CPU
                          dev.cpu.1.temperature: -1
                          dev.cpu.1.coretemp.throttle_log: 0
                          dev.cpu.1.coretemp.tjmax: -1
                          dev.cpu.1.coretemp.resolution: -1
                          dev.cpu.1.coretemp.delta: -1
                          dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% last 4288us
                          dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1
                          dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/1/0
                          dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0
                          dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
                          dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.P002
                          dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu
                          dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU
                          dev.cpu.0.temperature: -1
                          dev.cpu.0.coretemp.throttle_log: 0
                          dev.cpu.0.coretemp.tjmax: -1
                          dev.cpu.0.coretemp.resolution: -1
                          dev.cpu.0.coretemp.delta: -1
                          dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% last 193us
                          dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1
                          dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1/0
                          dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0
                          dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
                          dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.P001
                          dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu
                          dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU
                          dev.cpu.%parent:
                          
                          

                          Strange, isn't it …

                          Thomas

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            ???

                            Yeah, what's going on there… Are you sure it's actually a D525?

                            Steve

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                              esquire1968
                              last edited by

                              I hope so …

                              CPU Type:  Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525 @ 1.80GHz
                                         4 CPUs: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) x 2 HTT threads 
                              

                              Lanner's recommendation was to install lm-sensors and the sent me a config file for this (see sensors3.conf).

                              Thomas

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                              sensors3.conf.txt
                              readme.txt

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                                lra
                                last edited by

                                @esquire1968:

                                I hope so …

                                CPU Type:  Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525 @ 1.80GHz
                                           4 CPUs: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) x 2 HTT threads 
                                

                                Lanner's recommendation was to install lm-sensors and the sent me a config file for this (see sensors3.conf).

                                Thomas

                                I also have a FW-7541D, but running Linux, and the "coretemp" module does not work properly with Linux on that box, which I presume is basically what FreeBSD/pfSense uses.  With "coretemp" I get:

                                coretemp-isa-0000
                                Adapter: ISA adapter
                                Core 0:        +8.0 C  (crit = +100.0 C)
                                Core 1:           N/A  (crit = +100.0 C)
                                

                                It would seem using lm-sensors is the only way to to get the temperature, which does work properly.

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                                  esquire1968
                                  last edited by

                                  Is it possible to run lm-sensor on FreeBSD/pfSense?

                                  Thomas

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    No, there is no lmsensors in FreeBSD.

                                    The closest thing is mbmon.
                                    You would have to manually install that though

                                    Steve

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                                      esquire1968
                                      last edited by

                                      Do you thing, that mbmon will work. How can I read then the temperature - only via ssh or also on the dashboard?

                                      How can I install mbmon?

                                      Thomas

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        You can try:

                                        pkg add http://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:10:amd64/release_3/All/xmbmon-205_14.txz
                                        

                                        then

                                        rehash
                                        

                                        then

                                        mbmon -D
                                        

                                        But installing FreeBSD packages isn't recommended.

                                        Steve

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                                          esquire1968
                                          last edited by

                                          I there any risk if i install the package?

                                          How can I deinstall the package restless?

                                          Thomas

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            I installed it on my D525 box here and there was no issue. It did't find any hardware though.

                                            You can remove it with 'pkg delete X' if you need to.

                                            You could just carry on without knowing the exact temperature though. It's probably not important.  ;)

                                            Steve

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