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      dhoffman98
      last edited by

      I'm thinking about upgrading the memory on my XTM 535.

      What is the max it can take, and does it have to be done in pairs? I currently have two 1gb sticks.

      I'm finding that buying 2 4GB sticks is much cheaper than 2 2GB sticks, and one 8GB stick would be just a little more.

      So the first question is, "what are my options for upgrading?"

      And the second question, "What is the benefit of upgrading?" (In other words, would it make any difference or just be a waste of money?)

      I have a fairly small network, about 30 machines, and then guests/visitors that could be sometimes another 40-50 devices.
      I am thinking about using Snort and Squid. Install is on a 2.5" hard drive with plenty of space (had a spare 500gb drive laying around) so that would be used for the Squid cache.

      So do I want more memory? Do I need more memory? Or is 2gb sufficient?

      Thank you.

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        DeLorean
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        For normal use is 2Gb RAM more then enough.
        For running Squid and/or Snort, i recommend 4Gb RAM and a faster cpu, if that's not already happend.
        Also, the speed of the RAM is important, it must be a least 667Mhz, lower will not work.
        I use always 800Mhz RAM, same speed as the RAM that came with this type of XTM5.

        Grtz
        DeLorean

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          dhoffman98
          last edited by

          OK, so I need to verify something with flashing my BIOS because something didn't work (and thankfully didn't do anything to the box).

          I'm going to put as much information here that I hope might be helpful.

          Command "flashrom –programmer internal" returned:

          flashrom v0.9.9-r1955 on FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p19 (amd64)
          flashrom is free software, get the source code at https://flashrom.org

          Calibrating delay loop… OK.
          Found chipset "Intel ICH7/ICH7R".
          Enabling flash write... OK.
          Found Micron/Numonyx/ST flash chip "M25P80" (1024 kB, SPI) mapped at physical address 0x00000000fff00000.
          No operations were specified.

          Then I ran "flashrom -V -r –programmer internal".
          It comes back with a bunch of info. I trimmed what you see below to the lines I think might be the most important.

          Initializing internal programmer
          No coreboot table found.
          Using Internal DMI decoder.
          DMI string chassis-type: "Desktop"
          DMI string system-manufacturer: "To Be Filled By O.E.M."
          DMI string system-product-name: "To Be Filled By O.E.M."
          DMI string system-version: "To Be Filled By O.E.M."
          DMI string baseboard-manufacturer: "To be filled by O.E.M."
          DMI string baseboard-product-name: "To be filled by O.E.M."
          DMI string baseboard-version: "To be filled by O.E.M."
          Found Winbond Super I/O, id 0x82
          Found chipset "Intel ICH7/ICH7R" with PCI ID 8086:27b8.
          Enabling flash write… Root Complex Register Block address = 0xfed1c000
          GCS = 0x810460: BIOS Interface Lock-Down: disabled, Boot BIOS Straps: 0x1 (SPI)
          Top Swap: not enabled
          ...
          Maximum FWH chip size: 0x100000 bytes
          SPI Read Configuration: prefetching disabled, caching enabled,
          BIOS_CNTL = 0x01: BIOS Lock Enable: disabled, BIOS Write Enable: enabled
          SPIBAR = 0x00000008007c5000 + 0x3020
          ...
          The following protocols are supported: FWH, SPI.
          ...
          Found Micron/Numonyx/ST flash chip "M25P80" (1024 kB, SPI).
          Reading flash... done.

          I tried the following command to flash (adding the -V for verbose output): "flashrom -V -w xtm5_83.rom –programmer internal"

          Enabling flash write… Root Complex Register Block address = 0xfed1c000
          GCS = 0x810460: BIOS Interface Lock-Down: disabled, Boot BIOS Straps: 0x1 (SPI)
          ...
          Maximum FWH chip size: 0x100000 bytes
          SPI Read Configuration: prefetching disabled, caching enabled,
          BIOS_CNTL = 0x01: BIOS Lock Enable: disabled, BIOS Write Enable: enabled
          ...
          Found Micron/Numonyx/ST flash chip "M25P80" (1024 kB, SPI) mapped at physical address 0x00000000fff00000.
          Chip status register is 0x00.
          Chip status register: Status Register Write Disable (SRWD, SRP, ...) is not set
          Chip status register: Bit 6 is not set
          Chip status register: Block Protect 3 (BP3) is not set
          Chip status register: Block Protect 2 (BP2) is not set
          Chip status register: Block Protect 1 (BP1) is not set
          Chip status register: Block Protect 0 (BP0) is not set
          Chip status register: Write Enable Latch (WEL) is not set
          Chip status register: Write In Progress (WIP/BUSY) is not set
          ...
          Found Micron/Numonyx/ST flash chip "M25P80" (1024 kB, SPI).
          Flash image seems to be a legacy BIOS. Disabling coreboot-related checks.
          Reading old flash chip contents... done.
          Erasing and writing flash chip... Trying erase function 0... 0x000000-0x00ffff:S, 0x010000-0x01ffff:S, 0x020000-0x02ffff:S, 0x030000-0x03ffff:S, 0x040000-0x04ffff:S, 0x050000-0x05ffff:S, 0x060000-0x06ffff:S, 0x070000-0x07ffff:S, 0x080000-0x08ffff:S, 0x090000-0x09ffff:S, 0x0a0000-0x0affff:S, 0x0b0000-0x0bffff:S, 0x0c0000-0x0cffff:S, 0x0d0000-0x0dffff:E, 0x0e0000-0x0effff:S, 0x0f0000-0x0fffff:S
          Erase/write done.
          Verifying flash... VERIFIED.
          Restoring MMIO space at 0x8007c8070
          Restoring MMIO space at 0x8007c807c
          Restoring MMIO space at 0x8007c8078
          Restoring MMIO space at 0x8007c8076
          Restoring MMIO space at 0x8007c8074
          Restoring PCI config space for 00:1f:0 reg 0xdc

          Finally, when running the command to verify the image: "flashrom -v xtm5_83.rom –programmer internal"

          flashrom v0.9.9-r1955 on FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p19 (amd64)
          flashrom is free software, get the source code at https://flashrom.org

          Calibrating delay loop… OK.
          Found chipset "Intel ICH7/ICH7R".
          Enabling flash write... OK.
          Found Micron/Numonyx/ST flash chip "M25P80" (1024 kB, SPI) mapped at physical address 0x00000000fff00000.
          Reading old flash chip contents... done.
          Verifying flash... VERIFIED.

          So…. the way I'm seeing it, it supposedly flashed the chip.
          But then I shut the system down, and then power on again.
          I get to a shell and again run: "flashrom -v xtm5_83.rom --programmer internal"

          This time, I get this:

          Calibrating delay loop… OK.
          Found chipset "Intel ICH7/ICH7R".
          Enabling flash write... OK.
          Found Micron/Numonyx/ST flash chip "M25P80" (1024 kB, SPI) mapped at physical address 0x00000000fff00000.
          Reading old flash chip contents... done.
          Verifying flash... FAILED at 0x000dc000! Expected=0xff, Found=0x05, failed byte count from 0x00000000-0x000fffff: 0x113

          And when I go back into the BIOS next time, everything is still the same, and everything is locked except for date and time.

          I'm open to suggestions.
          Did I miss a step?
          Did I use the wrong commands?
          Did I use the wrong file?

          Thanks in advance.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Looks like you didn't actually run the write command so it never wrote the file to the flash.

            Steve

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              dhoffman98
              last edited by

              Is this the proper command to write the file?

              flashrom -V -w xtm5_83.rom –programmer internal

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              • chpalmerC
                chpalmer
                last edited by

                @dhoffman98:

                Is this the proper command to write the file?

                flashrom -V -w xtm5_83.rom –programmer internal

                Ive never used the -v switch but my guess is it should go after the write switch if your going to use it.

                flashrom -w xtm5_83.rom –programmer internal -v  or

                flashrom -w -v xtm5_83.rom --programmer internal

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                • chpalmerC
                  chpalmer
                  last edited by

                  pkg

                  pkg install flashrom

                  rehash

                  cd tmp

                  fetch https://sites.google.com/site/pfsensefirebox/home/xtm5_83.rom

                  md5 xtm5_83.rom

                  flashrom -w xtm5_83.rom –programmer internal

                  needs a little bit of updating for the 2.4 branch.

                  ;)

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                    dhoffman98
                    last edited by

                    Add to those instructions to pull the battery for a while after flashing. That was my problem, I had been writing the flash file, and it said it was verified, but after reboot, still locked out. Pulled the battery for 10 minutes, put it back, booted up and all is good now.

                    So now I have my BIOS flashed.
                    I have LCDProc working great.

                    Memory. I have two 1GB sticks on board now.
                    Considering some of what I've been reading about 2.4 and using ZFS file systems, it looks like creating a RAM disk is a good idea.
                    I believe someone on here posted that they have gone up to 8GB with no issues. Assuming that's 2x4GB… What else are the specs for RAM?
                    DDR2
                    800MHz
                    PC2-6400 ? Is that correct ?
                    240 pins

                    What else do I want to do before I make this "production-ready"?

                    Suggestions? Favorite add-on packages (already have Shellcmd and LCDProc).

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                      dhoffman98
                      last edited by

                      @chpalmer:

                      flashrom -w -v xtm5_83.rom –programmer internal

                      That one won't work. The file name has to be after the -w.

                      Turns out mine was working… I just needed to pull the battery while powered off and when I brought it back up, the new BIOS was running.

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                      • chpalmerC
                        chpalmer
                        last edited by

                        @dhoffman98:

                        That one won't work. The file name has to be after the -w.

                        Turns out mine was working… I just needed to pull the battery while powered off and when I brought it back up, the new BIOS was running.

                        What- you didn't read through the 20,000 plus pages to find out you need to pull the battery??  :o ;D

                        We tend to take things for granted sometimes and forget to mention that.  :P

                        Glad ya made it work!

                        :)

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                        • chpalmerC
                          chpalmer
                          last edited by

                          @dhoffman98:

                          Memory. I have two 1GB sticks on board now.
                          Considering some of what I've been reading about 2.4 and using ZFS file systems, it looks like creating a RAM disk is a good idea.
                          I believe someone on here posted that they have gone up to 8GB with no issues. Assuming that's 2x4GB… What else are the specs for RAM?
                          DDR2
                          800MHz
                          PC2-6400 ? Is that correct ?
                          240 pins

                          Im running 4GB ram here and a 120GB hard drive.  Cannot speak whether the board will handle 8GB or not..

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              You have to extract the modules from the bios then search through it for the string that's sent to the LCD and edit it in hex. It's been a while since I did it I don't recall exactly which module it's in.

                              Steve

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  I don't recall exactly which version it was I'm afraid. Unless it's noted somewhere here in thread already.

                                  That's true though the earlier versions produced corrupted files which is why I ended up having to flash the chip via SPI directly a number of times.

                                  Steve

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                                    DeLorean
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                                    @stephenw10:

                                    I don't recall exactly which version it was I'm afraid. Unless it's noted somewhere here in thread already.

                                    That's true though the earlier versions produced corrupted files which is why I ended up having to flash the chip via SPI directly a number of times.

                                    Steve

                                    Version 3.51 was the correct version.
                                    Prior versions did corrupt the BIOS files.
                                    You mentioned this exactly at the day, 3 years ago  ;D

                                    @stephenw10:

                                    @lolman
                                    You have to use the 3.XX series on the XTM5 bios. I believe the 4.XX is for UEFI bios only. I started out using 3.43 but that mostly corrupted the BIOS image! Using 3.51 allowed me to edit the Superio tables and didn't corrupt the BIOS.

                                    @mcdonnjd
                                    Which model XTM5 do you have? It seems like it's different to those the rest of have so maybe it's one of the second generation models.

                                    Steve

                                    Grtz
                                    DeLorean

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      Thank you me 3 years ago!  ;D

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                                        dhoffman98
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                                        @747Builder:

                                        apparently i have the oddball with the 220Watt power supply in mine.

                                        I'm with you. Same box. It's the 2nd Generation XTM 5 boxes. It seems that when they started expanding the product line, they made some changes.

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