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    • chpalmerC
      chpalmer
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      @dhoffman98:

      That one won't work. The file name has to be after the -w.

      Turns out mine was working… I just needed to pull the battery while powered off and when I brought it back up, the new BIOS was running.

      What- you didn't read through the 20,000 plus pages to find out you need to pull the battery??  :o ;D

      We tend to take things for granted sometimes and forget to mention that.  :P

      Glad ya made it work!

      :)

      Triggering snowflakes one by one..
      Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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      • chpalmerC
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        @dhoffman98:

        Memory. I have two 1GB sticks on board now.
        Considering some of what I've been reading about 2.4 and using ZFS file systems, it looks like creating a RAM disk is a good idea.
        I believe someone on here posted that they have gone up to 8GB with no issues. Assuming that's 2x4GB… What else are the specs for RAM?
        DDR2
        800MHz
        PC2-6400 ? Is that correct ?
        240 pins

        Im running 4GB ram here and a 120GB hard drive.  Cannot speak whether the board will handle 8GB or not..

        Triggering snowflakes one by one..
        Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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          • stephenw10S
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            You have to extract the modules from the bios then search through it for the string that's sent to the LCD and edit it in hex. It's been a while since I did it I don't recall exactly which module it's in.

            Steve

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                I don't recall exactly which version it was I'm afraid. Unless it's noted somewhere here in thread already.

                That's true though the earlier versions produced corrupted files which is why I ended up having to flash the chip via SPI directly a number of times.

                Steve

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                  @stephenw10:

                  I don't recall exactly which version it was I'm afraid. Unless it's noted somewhere here in thread already.

                  That's true though the earlier versions produced corrupted files which is why I ended up having to flash the chip via SPI directly a number of times.

                  Steve

                  Version 3.51 was the correct version.
                  Prior versions did corrupt the BIOS files.
                  You mentioned this exactly at the day, 3 years ago  ;D

                  @stephenw10:

                  @lolman
                  You have to use the 3.XX series on the XTM5 bios. I believe the 4.XX is for UEFI bios only. I started out using 3.43 but that mostly corrupted the BIOS image! Using 3.51 allowed me to edit the Superio tables and didn't corrupt the BIOS.

                  @mcdonnjd
                  Which model XTM5 do you have? It seems like it's different to those the rest of have so maybe it's one of the second generation models.

                  Steve

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                  • stephenw10S
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                    Thank you me 3 years ago!  ;D

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                      @747Builder:

                      apparently i have the oddball with the 220Watt power supply in mine.

                      I'm with you. Same box. It's the 2nd Generation XTM 5 boxes. It seems that when they started expanding the product line, they made some changes.

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                            @747Builder:

                            @stephenw10:

                            I don't recall exactly which version it was I'm afraid. Unless it's noted somewhere here in thread already.

                            That's true though the earlier versions produced corrupted files which is why I ended up having to flash the chip via SPI directly a number of times.

                            Steve

                            Stephen10,

                            do you happen to still have the Pinouts you got from Lanner on the SPI port? also what software did you use with your home made SPI programmer?
                            in my world its called CYA and making sure mine works ahead of time before hacking on the bios.

                            This diagram of pinouts is taken from the Lanner FW-7581W user manual

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                              • stephenw10S
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                                Using the test clip directly is probably a better way to go.

                                I used flashrom which has a special driver for the parallel port "rayer_spi" programmer.
                                https://blogs.coreboot.org/blog/2010/08/17/rayer-spipgm-support-in-flashrom/

                                Steve

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                                  @747Builder:

                                  Thanks. i also found my soic8 test clip for my eprom burner too and it supports the SPI flash chip in the XTM 5.

                                  I received my SOIC8 test clip today in the mail, but i'm not sure if my Nano USB Programmer can be used.
                                  I gonna first try it on a old desktop motherboard.

                                  Which Eeprom programmer do you use ?

                                  Grtz
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                                    Okay, my Nano USB programmer has the ST M25P80 chip listed.
                                    But when i look at the Bios chip of a XTM510 that i have here , it says MP25P80-VG.
                                    A search on the internet doesnt give me any answer what the difference is between both nrs.

                                    Grtz
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                                        @747Builder:

                                        Bios chip is a Micron part you listed above (MP25P80-VG). Datasheet is here -> https://www.micron.com/~/media/Documents/Products/Data%20Sheet/NOR%20Flash/Serial%20NOR/M25P/M25P80.pdf

                                        the ST M25P80 datasheet is here -> http://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/ST%20Microelectronics%20PDFS/M25P80.pdf

                                        The BIOS chip that i mentioned MP25P80-VG is also from ST (ST brand visible on the picture)

                                        @747Builder:

                                        NOTE: be VERY careful with programming eproms with software if your not 1000% sure they are compatible. especially on these boxes with no easy way to replace the bios chip without a SMD rework station.

                                        That's why i'm carefull and not have tried updating the BIOS on a XTM5 untill now.

                                        BIOS flashing with the SOIC8 test clip and programmer will eliminate this risk, or can it go wrong with this method also ?

                                        I have used this programmer for BIOS flashing empty SST BIOS Chips for the X-E Core series,
                                        and that worked like a charm.
                                        A bad BIOS update is equal to a empty BIOS chip, are am i wrong ?

                                        Grtz
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