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      pfBasic Banned
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      @whosmatt:

      @pfBasic:

      @johnpoz:

      But pretty sure you can get to the management IP from any switch port.

      How big of a security concern is this really? If the webgui is HTTP/S and you have a strong password on it then what is the security risk?

      My setup is home use only so for me I'm not at all concerned about anyone on my network even caring to look for a switch or router on the network, I was just curious how much of an actual security vulnerability this would be on a larger network?

      It's not, and I don't see any way to change it.  I get it, these switches are basically the same price as a typical unmanaged switch.  They're cheap and offer VLANs.  That's about all I can say.

      I just meant in general is it a security concern if you can force HTTP/S and put a good password on it.
      I replaced my TP-Link with a Zyxel GS1900 and it allows you to force HTTP/S WebGUI.

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        whosmatt
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        @pfBasic:

        I just meant in general is it a security concern if you can force HTTP/S and put a good password on it.
        I replaced my TP-Link with a Zyxel GS1900 and it allows you to force HTTP/S WebGUI.

        Yeah, got it.  Sorry, my response was not entirely directed at you or the https question.

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          pfBasic Banned
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          @whosmatt:

          If anyone can show me a 16 port fanless 1Gbps fully managed switch (with a proper CLI) I'd be ecstatic.

          Youtube Video

          It's 16 port, gigabit and fanless. But not quite fully managed, you might be interested though.

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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
            last edited by

            I have two of those and a DGS-1210-10P.

            I have never seen them lose the config.

            You do have to explicitly save it so maybe those donkeys weren't doing that.

            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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              n3by
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              Depend of VLAN configuration & PVID settings if TL-SG108E switch IP is allocated on different subnet than normal clients (vlan);
              using a browser, web management interface can't be accessed by clients;
              however it can be accessed with Easy Smart Configuration Utility program that allow you also to change the switch IP… for home use is almost ok but not for Office / Enterprise use.

              A page for Linux users about TL-SG108E:
              https://shred.zone/cilla/page/383/setting-up-tp-link-tl-sg108e-with-linux.html

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              • DerelictD
                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                @http://us.dlink.com/products/business-solutions/dgs-1100-08p/:

                The DGS-1100-08P, 10MP, -24P and -26MP comply with the 802.3af/at PoE+ standards, supporting up to 30W on each PoE port, not to exceed the switches specific power budget.

                @http://us.dlink.com/products/business-solutions/dgs-1100-08p/#tab-spec:

                Power Budget 64W

                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                • DerelictD
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by

                  UK market products might be different.

                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                    whosmatt
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                    @ecfx:

                    Depend of VLAN configuration & PVID settings if TL-SG108E switch IP is allocated on different subnet than normal clients (vlan);
                    using a browser, web management interface can't be accessed by clients;
                    however it can be accessed with Easy Smart Configuration Utility program that allow you also to change the switch IP..

                    FWIW there are 2 versions of the TL-SG108E. Both can be managed by the config utility but only V2 has a browser config interface.  Source: I have one of each.

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                    • ivorI
                      ivor
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                      Please do not go off-topic as this thread is about security concerns of TP-Link switch series.

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                        CanYaHearMeNow4
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                        I tried to use my TP-Link "Easy Smart Switch" in a different deployment and the VLAN1/MGMT issue bothered me again so I submitted some security feedback to them via their "Submit Security Feedback" forum. I outlined the issue the best I could and even linked directly to this forum.

                        I sure hope they respond, because according to TP-Link:

                        At TP-Link, customer security comes first. That’s why we work diligently to ensure that our products include the highest level of security features, with firmware and hardware that protect customers and their devices from the very latest threats.

                        If anyone has some free time to submit similar security feedback, it might help the cause: http://www.tp-link.com/us/security

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                          robi
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                          All these "Easy Smart Switch" models have this "feature". I think this is intentionally like this, for very basic home users. To be "easy" to use the GUI…
                          You have to buy products from their series called "Smart Switches" or "Managed Switches", not the "Easy Smart Switches" series.

                          "Smart Switches" and "Managed Switches" don't exhibit these problems. I just deployed a network consisting of about 60 such switches in various sizes, all interconnected with optics and offering 2 dozens of VLANs, no unwanted traffic passing between them. On top of this, 2 CARP-enabled pfSense boxes do all the inter-VLAN traffic.

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                            warheat1990
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                            I email their support and technical few times, gave them a link to this thread and never got a response, you get what you pay for I guess.

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                              Finger79
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                              @CanYaHearMeNow4:

                              If anyone has some free time to submit similar security feedback, it might help the cause: http://www.tp-link.com/us/security

                              Ironically, that page isn't available over HTTPS, so the entire form contents are in the clear.

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                It is there via https - just BAD

                                The certificate is only valid for the following names: *.akamaized.net, *.akamaihd-staging.net, *.akamaized-staging.net, *.akamaihd.net, a248.e.akamai.net

                                Agree yet another example of not really getting it ;)

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                                  VAMike
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                                  @johnpoz:

                                  It is there via https - just BAD

                                  The certificate is only valid for the following names: *.akamaized.net, *.akamaihd-staging.net, *.akamaized-staging.net, *.akamaihd.net, a248.e.akamai.net

                                  Agree yet another example of not really getting it ;)

                                  Those are always there when a site is hosted on akamai but not using https.

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                                    warheat1990
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                                    TP-Link released beta firmware on July 2017 for both SG105E and SG108E, anyone care to try?

                                    Link:
                                    http://static.tp-link.com/TL-SG105E(UN)_V3_170717_Beta.rar
                                    http://static.tp-link.com/TL-SG108E(UN)_V3_170717_Beta.rar

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      did they release for v2?

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Mmm, did they release for anything else? Is there an announcement anywhere?

                                        Steve

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Not that I could find.. Typical it seems for this company..

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                                          • thuetyT
                                            thuety
                                            last edited by

                                            So my sg108e is directly connected to my cable modem with untagged VLAN x and PVID x.
                                            How worried should I be about the VLAN 1 membership?
                                            Wouldn't an attacker need to be in my cable/wan subnet?

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