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      behemyth
      last edited by

      These kind of posts are why I love this platform. I've never seen a platform where the actual people working on it post informational things like this for everyone to use.

      Major kudos to the Pfsense team.

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        mrhub
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        This worked for the Switch AND for the PS4 that had NAT type 3.

        Using a Firebox X550e

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          AkiraSensei
          last edited by

          Sorry for reviving an old post but should I disable static ports on all other mappings? For example, the automatically created rules for localhost to WAN, LAN to WAN, OPT1 to WAN, etc.? I also have multiple game systems that require the static port on. Is it all right to have static ports on all of them ON at the same time? I'm still very new to pfSense (this is my post here, in fact!).

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            Falcon-OSX
            last edited by

            Thank you very much a very simple and elegant solution. You made my son very happy. I will be adding other console to help with gaming.

            Thank Again. :)

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by

              @AkiraSensei:

              Sorry for reviving an old post but should I disable static ports on all other mappings? For example, the automatically created rules for localhost to WAN, LAN to WAN, OPT1 to WAN, etc.? I also have multiple game systems that require the static port on. Is it all right to have static ports on all of them ON at the same time? I'm still very new to pfSense (this is my post here, in fact!).

              As long as they do not need the same source port to talk with the same destination address:port it should be OK. There can only be one state for each local_wan_ip:port <-> remote_ip:port combination. Setting static port just means that the source port is left untranslated when connections are made outbound. If the local machine connects using source port 55000, then that port will be used on the WAN interface as the source port. Without static set, the port can be randomly selected from the ephemeral port space (1024 to 65535) and translated on WAN.

              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                dazedman
                last edited by

                this solved my problem on both the wii u and switch. thank you!

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                  blue_smoke
                  last edited by

                  Hi thank you for this guide.  I had problems getting the NAT type from a D to a C or B even after following your steps but I eventually figured out what was happening.

                  In the step below, I found that the Mappings order was important.  I originally added the rule as the last entry.  When I moved the Mappings entry up above the other LAN entries I started getting NAT type B.

                  @jimp:

                  …

                  3. Add Outbound NAT rule

                  • Firewall > NAT, Outbound tab
                  • Click +
                  • Set the console address as the source (Type = Network, then enter the IP address, pick /32 for the CIDR)
                  • Check Static Port
                  • Save/Apply

                  ...

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                    reilos
                    last edited by

                    Well, i did exactly this, but my switch still says its type D :(

                    Maybe someone sees anything I missed here: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=141535.0

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                      c4bcons
                      last edited by

                      I posted this in a different thread by accident ….

                      having some trouble here - I'm getting the error Nintendo code:

                      error code: 2618-0516
                      NAT traversal process has failed
                      etc…

                      I've attached the firewall/nat/outbound screen - have I missed anything?

                      firewall_nat_outbound.png
                      firewall_nat_outbound.png_thumb

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                      • jimpJ
                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                        last edited by

                        @c4bcons:

                        I posted this in a different thread by accident ….

                        having some trouble here - I'm getting the error Nintendo code:

                        error code: 2618-0516
                        NAT traversal process has failed
                        etc…

                        I've attached the firewall/nat/outbound screen - have I missed anything?

                        Looks like your NAT rule is set on the internal (LAN) interface when it should be on the WAN interface. Edit that rule, change it to WAN, Save, Apply.

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                          c4bcons
                          last edited by

                          Yes!  ;D as simple as that.  Just changed it to "WAN".  Nothing else.  Thank you very much for a helpful thread!!

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                            tokamak
                            last edited by

                            @jimp:

                            At least with the one online multiplayer game I have used so far (Fast RMX) the only requirement for Nintendo Switch online multiplayer is static port outbound NAT. It did not appear to require UPnP, but it's safer to enable that in case another game needs it later.

                            So as with the Wii U, 3DS, and other similar consoles the best course of action is:

                            1. Set a static IP address for the device via DHCP static mappings

                            • Status > DHCP Leases, find the device, click + to add a mapping, set a static address, save, etc.

                            2. Switch to Hybrid Outbound NAT

                            • Firewall > NAT, Outbound tab
                            • Select Hybrid Outbound NAT, Save

                            3. Add Outbound NAT rule

                            • Firewall > NAT, Outbound tab
                            • Click +
                            • Set the console address as the source (Type = Network, then enter the IP address, pick /32 for the CIDR)
                            • Check Static Port
                            • Save/Apply

                            4. (Optional, So far) Enable UPnP & NAT-PMP

                            • Enable UPnP & NAT-PMP
                            • Allow UPnP Port Mapping
                            • Pick External (WAN) and Internal Interfaces (LAN)
                            • Set other options as desired
                            • Save

                            EDIT: My son is using the Splatoon pre-release global test fire and the online multiplayer is working fine, still only using static port outbound NAT. No UPnP.

                            THANK YOU!!!! For taking the time to outline this. Works perfect for the new Nintendo Switch in the house. Kids have been trying to play Splatoon 2 online and kept having issues until I found this.

                            Thanks again for helping a NOOB who loves pfSense!

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                              MorzineIT
                              last edited by

                              Hey Dude,
                              Thanks a million for that post.  I just spend my whole afternoon trying to get Splatoon 2 multiplayer working on my son's Nintendo Switch
                              After I found this post it worked in a flash

                              THANK YOU !!!

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                              • jimpJ
                                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                last edited by

                                Please keep future posts in this thread related to the Nintendo Switch only, thanks!

                                I split off an tangent conversation into a new thread.

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                                  tomv
                                  last edited by

                                  I'm not having any luck getting the NAT type to report anything other than type D

                                  Hopefully I'm just missing something.. Here are my settings.

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                                  thanks

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                                  • jimpJ
                                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate @tomv
                                    last edited by

                                    @tvaldes said in Nintendo Switch - Needs static port on its outbound NAT:

                                    I'm not having any luck getting the NAT type to report anything other than type D

                                    Hopefully I'm just missing something.. Here are my settings.

                                    As long as your switch is actually being assigned 10.0.0.139 that outbound NAT rule is OK.

                                    What exactly is reporting "type D" for NAT? I haven't played any online games on my switch lately.

                                    Have you enabled UPnP? It's possible a game may want that enabled as well.

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                                      tomv @jimp
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                                      @jimp said in Nintendo Switch - Needs static port on its outbound NAT:

                                      @tvaldes said in Nintendo Switch - Needs static port on its outbound NAT:

                                      I'm not having any luck getting the NAT type to report anything other than type D

                                      Hopefully I'm just missing something.. Here are my settings.

                                      As long as your switch is actually being assigned 10.0.0.139 that outbound NAT rule is OK.

                                      What exactly is reporting "type D" for NAT? I haven't played any online games on my switch lately.

                                      Have you enabled UPnP? It's possible a game may want that enabled as well.

                                      My switch is definitely getting the IP.
                                      The NAT type D is coming from the Nintendo Switch Connection Test
                                      I also configured UPnP as described in Step 4

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                                      • jimpJ
                                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                        last edited by

                                        Hmm, my setup is configured the same way (static port outbound for the switch, UPnP enabled) and I get NAT Type B here. Maybe you have another device between the switch and pfSense, or between pfSense and the Internet, that is altering its behavior?

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                                          tomv @jimp
                                          last edited by

                                          @jimp It's wireless so the only device is my access point and an unmanaged switch

                                          order from internet to nintendo switch

                                          cable modem
                                          pfsense
                                          unmanaged switch
                                          wireless AP
                                          nintendo switch

                                          Is there an associated firewall rule I might be missing?

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                                          • jimpJ
                                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                            last edited by

                                            No, a firewall rule wouldn't prevent anything there, unless you have a second WAN or VPN that the switch is getting policy routed out so it doesn't hit that static port rule.

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