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    Pfsense Struggling big time.

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    • KOMK
      KOM
      last edited by

      Perhaps you need to look into some traffic shaping so that your torrent app doesn't kill your network.

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      • x2rlX
        x2rl
        last edited by

        @KOM:

        Perhaps you need to look into some traffic shaping so that your torrent app doesn't kill your network.

        Guess ill have to look into that. Could it be the hardrive in the pfsense box its not great

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        • KOMK
          KOM
          last edited by

          Not likely.  It's not like it writes every packet to disk.  Check your System log for CAM Status errors if you suspect disk problems.

          Think about it.  If you run an app that sucks up all your bandwidth, then everyone else on your network is going to have a bad day.

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          • x2rlX
            x2rl
            last edited by

            @KOM:

            Not likely.  It's not like it writes every packet to disk.  Check your System log for CAM Status errors if you suspect disk problems.

            Think about it.  If you run an app that sucks up all your bandwidth, then everyone else on your network is going to have a bad day.

            Yea I do get that, its just odd that if I remove pfsense and just use a router I don't have the problems.

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            • KOMK
              KOM
              last edited by

              if I remove pfsense and just use a router I don't have the problems.

              This information would have been nice to know much earlier in this thread.  While I can't speak for your other router, you need to find the source of your issue.  You said your link is 350/100?  When you are having these issues, how saturated is your pipe?  Is it mainly download traffic or are you mainly seeding?  How full is your state table?  Anything in your System log?  What happens if you turn off Snort and pfBlockerNG which are two notoriously heavy packages?

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              • x2rlX
                x2rl
                last edited by

                @KOM:

                if I remove pfsense and just use a router I don't have the problems.

                This information would have been nice to know much earlier in this thread.  While I can't speak for your other router, you need to find the source of your issue.  You said your link is 350/100?  When you are having these issues, how saturated is your pipe?  Is it mainly download traffic or are you mainly seeding?  How full is your state table?  Anything in your System log?  What happens if you turn off Snort and pfBlockerNG which are two notoriously heavy packages?

                Sorry yea I should of said that at the start.
                The main leeching seeding is done on my other server (which is not on this network)

                saturated  pipe? sorry no idea what that means.
                State table? no clue ill see if I can find something on pfsense for that ( from what I can see is there is lots if its (Diagnostics-States-States)
                snort and pfblocker off deleted clean isntall still do the same.
                I can;t seem to find where the logs are ill look

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                  ankitagupta
                  last edited by

                  I was about to create a thread but luckily found this thread.
                  I am facing this same issue. Someone help me please.

                  Ankita
                  Addicted to Subway Surfers Mod

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                  • KOMK
                    KOM
                    last edited by

                    saturated  pipe?

                    That's another way of saying you're using all of your bandwidth.

                    The main leeching seeding is done on my other server (which is not on this network)

                    Is it using pfSense as its gateway?

                    State table? no clue ill see if I can find something on pfsense

                    Look on the dashboard for the System Information widget which has a section titled State table size.

                    I can;t seem to find where the logs are ill look

                    Status - System logs.

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                    • SammyWooS
                      SammyWoo
                      last edited by

                      I dunno why you are looking north when the problem is south.

                      Bandwidth Saturation is common in every installation, not unique to pFsense, and on your first post u disclose starting this deluge thing on the media PC does it, so THAT is your problem.

                      When an App takes up all available bandwidth, the network is not smart enough, by default, to say, hold it, I got other clients to service so u can't have the whole "pipe."  Fortunately you have the power to change this.  Pfsense solution is: TRAFFIC SHAPER.

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                      • KOMK
                        KOM
                        last edited by

                        Bandwidth Saturation is common in every installation, not unique to pFsense

                        He said that the problem goes away if he swaps out pfSense for a consumer-grade router.

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                        • x2rlX
                          x2rl
                          last edited by

                          That's another way of saying you're using all of your bandwidth.

                          Not really thought I would says its alot of connections if that means anything

                          Is it using pfSense as its gateway?

                          No its not even in my house.

                          Look on the dashboard for the System Information widget which has a section titled State table size.

                          1% (3423/401000) with deluge off
                          5% (21722/401000) with it on

                          Status - System logs.

                          I see this every few lines

                          Apr 5 10:22:09 check_reload_status updating dyndns WAN_DHCP
                          Apr 5 10:22:09 check_reload_status Restarting ipsec tunnels
                          Apr 5 10:22:09 check_reload_status Restarting OpenVPN tunnels/interfaces
                          Apr 5 10:22:09 check_reload_status Reloading filter
                          Apr 5 10:25:24 rc.gateway_alarm 20213 >>> Gateway alarm: WAN_DHCP (Addr:81.107.216.1 Alarm:1 RTT:87812ms RTTsd:49587ms Loss:21%)

                          He said that the problem goes away if he swaps out pfSense for a consumer-grade router.

                          Well its better other computers don't drop but do run slow

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                            Harvy66
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                            It's possible the consumer grade router is so limited that it is unable to saturate the internet connection or a limited number of states.

                            I actually had the inverse issue. I went from a 60/3 cable connection to a 50/50 dedicated fiber connection and when downloading torrents, I found that my Netgear suddenly started to puke. I had to limit the number of connections my torrent client could make to keep it from dying. But prior to fiber, I could use torrent just fine.

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                            • x2rlX
                              x2rl
                              last edited by

                              @Harvy66:

                              It's possible the consumer grade router is so limited that it is unable to saturate the internet connection or a limited number of states.

                              I actually had the inverse issue. I went from a 60/3 cable connection to a 50/50 dedicated fiber connection and when downloading torrents, I found that my Netgear suddenly started to puke. I had to limit the number of connections my torrent client could make to keep it from dying. But prior to fiber, I could use torrent just fine.

                              Seems to be the other way around for me pal.

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                              • KOMK
                                KOM
                                last edited by

                                Apr 5 10:25:24  rc.gateway_alarm  20213  >>> Gateway alarm: WAN_DHCP (Addr:81.107.216.1 Alarm:1 RTT:87812ms RTTsd:49587ms Loss:21%)

                                This isn't good.  pfSense gateway quality detection thinks your WAN is really flaky.  What does it say under Status - Gateways?

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                                • x2rlX
                                  x2rl
                                  last edited by

                                  @KOM:

                                  Apr 5 10:25:24  rc.gateway_alarm  20213  >>> Gateway alarm: WAN_DHCP (Addr:81.107.216.1 Alarm:1 RTT:87812ms RTTsd:49587ms Loss:21%)

                                  This isn't good.  pfSense gateway quality detection thinks your WAN is really flaky.  What does it say under Status - Gateways?

                                  WAN_DHCP 81.107* 81.107* 12.19ms 4.111ms 0.0% Online Interface WAN_DHCP Gateway
                                  WAN_DHCP6 fe80::201:5cff:fe80:1447 Pending Pending Pending Pending Interface WAN_DHCP6 Gateway
                                  with deluge off

                                  On

                                  WAN_DHCP 81.107.* 81.107* 598.681ms 216.247ms 38% Offline Interface WAN_DHCP Gateway
                                  WAN_DHCP6 fe80::201:5cff:fe80:1447 Pending Pending Pending Pending Interface WAN_DHCP6 Gateway

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                                  • KOMK
                                    KOM
                                    last edited by

                                    Try going to System - Routing - Gateways.  Edit your gateway and check the Disable Gateway Monitoring checkbox and try again.  It seems that your torrent app is filling your pipe to the point that the upstream monitor thinks your link is dying.

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                                    • x2rlX
                                      x2rl
                                      last edited by

                                      @KOM:

                                      Try going to System - Routing - Gateways.  Edit your gateway and check the Disable Gateway Monitoring checkbox and try again.  It seems that your torrent app is filling your pipe to the point that the upstream monitor thinks your link is dying.

                                      Seems to be the same Kom. Thanks again for the help.

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                                      • JailerJ
                                        Jailer
                                        last edited by

                                        Hmmm, crapping out under heavy traffic. What hardware is pfsense installed on?

                                        I'm betting there's a Realtek NIC in there.

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                                        • x2rlX
                                          x2rl
                                          last edited by

                                          @Jailer:

                                          Hmmm, crapping out under heavy traffic. What hardware is pfsense installed on?

                                          I'm betting there's a Realtek NIC in there.

                                          Smoothwall SWG700 I think its called

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                                          • SammyWooS
                                            SammyWoo
                                            last edited by

                                            @KOM:

                                            This isn't good.  pfSense gateway quality detection thinks your WAN is really flaky.  What does it say under Status - Gateways?

                                            Flaky or stuffed to the gill.

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