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    Pfsense Struggling big time.

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    • KOMK
      KOM
      last edited by

      if I remove pfsense and just use a router I don't have the problems.

      This information would have been nice to know much earlier in this thread.  While I can't speak for your other router, you need to find the source of your issue.  You said your link is 350/100?  When you are having these issues, how saturated is your pipe?  Is it mainly download traffic or are you mainly seeding?  How full is your state table?  Anything in your System log?  What happens if you turn off Snort and pfBlockerNG which are two notoriously heavy packages?

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      • x2rlX
        x2rl
        last edited by

        @KOM:

        if I remove pfsense and just use a router I don't have the problems.

        This information would have been nice to know much earlier in this thread.  While I can't speak for your other router, you need to find the source of your issue.  You said your link is 350/100?  When you are having these issues, how saturated is your pipe?  Is it mainly download traffic or are you mainly seeding?  How full is your state table?  Anything in your System log?  What happens if you turn off Snort and pfBlockerNG which are two notoriously heavy packages?

        Sorry yea I should of said that at the start.
        The main leeching seeding is done on my other server (which is not on this network)

        saturated  pipe? sorry no idea what that means.
        State table? no clue ill see if I can find something on pfsense for that ( from what I can see is there is lots if its (Diagnostics-States-States)
        snort and pfblocker off deleted clean isntall still do the same.
        I can;t seem to find where the logs are ill look

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          ankitagupta
          last edited by

          I was about to create a thread but luckily found this thread.
          I am facing this same issue. Someone help me please.

          Ankita
          Addicted to Subway Surfers Mod

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          • KOMK
            KOM
            last edited by

            saturated  pipe?

            That's another way of saying you're using all of your bandwidth.

            The main leeching seeding is done on my other server (which is not on this network)

            Is it using pfSense as its gateway?

            State table? no clue ill see if I can find something on pfsense

            Look on the dashboard for the System Information widget which has a section titled State table size.

            I can;t seem to find where the logs are ill look

            Status - System logs.

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            • SammyWooS
              SammyWoo
              last edited by

              I dunno why you are looking north when the problem is south.

              Bandwidth Saturation is common in every installation, not unique to pFsense, and on your first post u disclose starting this deluge thing on the media PC does it, so THAT is your problem.

              When an App takes up all available bandwidth, the network is not smart enough, by default, to say, hold it, I got other clients to service so u can't have the whole "pipe."  Fortunately you have the power to change this.  Pfsense solution is: TRAFFIC SHAPER.

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              • KOMK
                KOM
                last edited by

                Bandwidth Saturation is common in every installation, not unique to pFsense

                He said that the problem goes away if he swaps out pfSense for a consumer-grade router.

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                • x2rlX
                  x2rl
                  last edited by

                  That's another way of saying you're using all of your bandwidth.

                  Not really thought I would says its alot of connections if that means anything

                  Is it using pfSense as its gateway?

                  No its not even in my house.

                  Look on the dashboard for the System Information widget which has a section titled State table size.

                  1% (3423/401000) with deluge off
                  5% (21722/401000) with it on

                  Status - System logs.

                  I see this every few lines

                  Apr 5 10:22:09 check_reload_status updating dyndns WAN_DHCP
                  Apr 5 10:22:09 check_reload_status Restarting ipsec tunnels
                  Apr 5 10:22:09 check_reload_status Restarting OpenVPN tunnels/interfaces
                  Apr 5 10:22:09 check_reload_status Reloading filter
                  Apr 5 10:25:24 rc.gateway_alarm 20213 >>> Gateway alarm: WAN_DHCP (Addr:81.107.216.1 Alarm:1 RTT:87812ms RTTsd:49587ms Loss:21%)

                  He said that the problem goes away if he swaps out pfSense for a consumer-grade router.

                  Well its better other computers don't drop but do run slow

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                    Harvy66
                    last edited by

                    It's possible the consumer grade router is so limited that it is unable to saturate the internet connection or a limited number of states.

                    I actually had the inverse issue. I went from a 60/3 cable connection to a 50/50 dedicated fiber connection and when downloading torrents, I found that my Netgear suddenly started to puke. I had to limit the number of connections my torrent client could make to keep it from dying. But prior to fiber, I could use torrent just fine.

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                    • x2rlX
                      x2rl
                      last edited by

                      @Harvy66:

                      It's possible the consumer grade router is so limited that it is unable to saturate the internet connection or a limited number of states.

                      I actually had the inverse issue. I went from a 60/3 cable connection to a 50/50 dedicated fiber connection and when downloading torrents, I found that my Netgear suddenly started to puke. I had to limit the number of connections my torrent client could make to keep it from dying. But prior to fiber, I could use torrent just fine.

                      Seems to be the other way around for me pal.

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                      • KOMK
                        KOM
                        last edited by

                        Apr 5 10:25:24  rc.gateway_alarm  20213  >>> Gateway alarm: WAN_DHCP (Addr:81.107.216.1 Alarm:1 RTT:87812ms RTTsd:49587ms Loss:21%)

                        This isn't good.  pfSense gateway quality detection thinks your WAN is really flaky.  What does it say under Status - Gateways?

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                        • x2rlX
                          x2rl
                          last edited by

                          @KOM:

                          Apr 5 10:25:24  rc.gateway_alarm  20213  >>> Gateway alarm: WAN_DHCP (Addr:81.107.216.1 Alarm:1 RTT:87812ms RTTsd:49587ms Loss:21%)

                          This isn't good.  pfSense gateway quality detection thinks your WAN is really flaky.  What does it say under Status - Gateways?

                          WAN_DHCP 81.107* 81.107* 12.19ms 4.111ms 0.0% Online Interface WAN_DHCP Gateway
                          WAN_DHCP6 fe80::201:5cff:fe80:1447 Pending Pending Pending Pending Interface WAN_DHCP6 Gateway
                          with deluge off

                          On

                          WAN_DHCP 81.107.* 81.107* 598.681ms 216.247ms 38% Offline Interface WAN_DHCP Gateway
                          WAN_DHCP6 fe80::201:5cff:fe80:1447 Pending Pending Pending Pending Interface WAN_DHCP6 Gateway

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                          • KOMK
                            KOM
                            last edited by

                            Try going to System - Routing - Gateways.  Edit your gateway and check the Disable Gateway Monitoring checkbox and try again.  It seems that your torrent app is filling your pipe to the point that the upstream monitor thinks your link is dying.

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                            • x2rlX
                              x2rl
                              last edited by

                              @KOM:

                              Try going to System - Routing - Gateways.  Edit your gateway and check the Disable Gateway Monitoring checkbox and try again.  It seems that your torrent app is filling your pipe to the point that the upstream monitor thinks your link is dying.

                              Seems to be the same Kom. Thanks again for the help.

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                              • JailerJ
                                Jailer
                                last edited by

                                Hmmm, crapping out under heavy traffic. What hardware is pfsense installed on?

                                I'm betting there's a Realtek NIC in there.

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                                • x2rlX
                                  x2rl
                                  last edited by

                                  @Jailer:

                                  Hmmm, crapping out under heavy traffic. What hardware is pfsense installed on?

                                  I'm betting there's a Realtek NIC in there.

                                  Smoothwall SWG700 I think its called

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                                  • SammyWooS
                                    SammyWoo
                                    last edited by

                                    @KOM:

                                    This isn't good.  pfSense gateway quality detection thinks your WAN is really flaky.  What does it say under Status - Gateways?

                                    Flaky or stuffed to the gill.

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                                    • KOMK
                                      KOM
                                      last edited by

                                      While we may never get to the bottom of your actual issue, you would still be best served by some traffic shaping so that your torrent traffic doesn't hog all your bandwidth.

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                                      • x2rlX
                                        x2rl
                                        last edited by

                                        @KOM:

                                        While we may never get to the bottom of your actual issue, you would still be best served by some traffic shaping so that your torrent traffic doesn't hog all your bandwidth.

                                        Thanks is there some kind of guide on how you do this which you know of KOM

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                                        • KOMK
                                          KOM
                                          last edited by

                                          Traffic shaping is probably THE hardest element of pfSense to figure out.  Try:

                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it_5xvC28vs

                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF46PNid1Mo

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                                          • B
                                            bartkowski
                                            last edited by

                                            @KOM:

                                            Traffic shaping is probably THE hardest element of pfSense to figure out.  Try:

                                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it_5xvC28vs

                                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF46PNid1Mo

                                            and this Darkvodka34 https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=126637.0 for general discussion, and this for message highlighting what to do.

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