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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by

      Well from your client do a nslookup.. or better yet dig..

      What does it come back?

      Why would you be showing CNAME?  www.google.com does not have any cname…  And where is your AAAA record..  Your isp is dicking with your dns maybe?

      Also if you are using resolver, all you should see is the loopback... why do you have those 99.x.x.x ?

      fromclient.png
      fromclient.png_thumb

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      • kaysersosaK
        kaysersosa
        last edited by

        I some how magically have internet through the pfSense router now.  No clue how or why.  I have done nothing other than reboot my IPS modem yesterday, I've done this multiple times with the pfSense router attached.  I had lost connection to the internet yesterday for a short time and rebooted the IPS modem.

        Attached are a couple of NSLookups.  The top one was from yesterday when the pfSense client didn't have any internet.  The bottom is from today when I noticed it did have internet.

        No clue on the CNAME or AAAA record.  The 99's are default DNS from IPS router.

        Any thoughts on what is going on?  I'm going to leave it alone other than any testing/checks recommended here until next week.  Then I'm going to try and set it up.  Currently attempting to attach an AP to it and see if that works.  Was another issue I had.

        nslookup.txt

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by

          Your having connectivity problems even talking to pfsense on 10.7.13.1 from that..

          Even when say its working you still had timeout for 2 seconds.

          How is your client connected to this 10.7.13 network?  Or unbound is starting and stopping a lot - look in your log for that.

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          • kaysersosaK
            kaysersosa
            last edited by

            When I stated it was working the other day, the hardware setup was (IPS Modem -> AP -> Client PC).

            The AP is an old Linksys WRT54GL router with DD-WRT installed and setup as a wireless switch.  By working I simply mean the Client PC could get to www.google.com.  It was unable at all prior.

            Testing again today.  The Client PC is no longer able to get to www.google.com.  pfSense can still ping www.google.com.  I did nothing to the system over the weekend.  Left it on untouched.

            This morning I changed the network layout to be similar to how it will be when put into use (IPS Modem -> Gigbit Switch -> Client PC / AP / etc.).
            Still not working, meaning Client PC unable to get to www.google.com.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by

              And are you able to query with nslookup?  Your post was timeout even talking to pfsense.

              Did you look in the log, is unbound restarting over and over again?

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              • kaysersosaK
                kaysersosa
                last edited by

                nslookup - DNS request timed out on the Client PC.

                Attached are the last few DNS Resolver logs.

                unbound.jpg
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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by

                  You have a problem there could not fetch dnskey.

                  I would suggest you up the logging level and then do a few queries for stuff.  Quite possible your isp is messing with resolving..

                  Average 20 sec processing time??

                  look here
                  Apr 23 05:43:48 unbound 10564:0 info: average recursion processing time 0.088876 sec
                  Apr 23 05:43:48 unbound 10564:0 info: server stats for thread 3: requestlist max 32 avg 0.991393 exceeded 0 jostled 0
                  Apr 23 05:43:48 unbound 10564:0 info: server stats for thread 3: 53901 queries, 49987 answers from cache, 3914 recursions, 10726 prefetch, 0 rejected by ip ratelimiting

                  Your dns is not functioning…  See my processing time and how many queries..

                  I would suggest you install dig and do a trace for something to see why your having problems...

                  
                  E:\>dig www.google.com +trace
                  
                  ; <<>> DiG 9.11.3 <<>> www.google.com +trace
                  ;; global options: +cmd
                  .                       514566  IN      NS      a.root-servers.net.
                  .                       514566  IN      NS      b.root-servers.net.
                  .                       514566  IN      NS      c.root-servers.net.
                  .                       514566  IN      NS      d.root-servers.net.
                  .                       514566  IN      NS      e.root-servers.net.
                  .                       514566  IN      NS      f.root-servers.net.
                  .                       514566  IN      NS      g.root-servers.net.
                  .                       514566  IN      NS      h.root-servers.net.
                  .                       514566  IN      NS      i.root-servers.net.
                  .                       514566  IN      NS      j.root-servers.net.
                  .                       514566  IN      NS      k.root-servers.net.
                  .                       514566  IN      NS      l.root-servers.net.
                  .                       514566  IN      NS      m.root-servers.net.
                  .                       514566  IN      RRSIG   NS 8 0 518400 20180520050000 20180507040000 39570 . hH/aRa4rRPFYuy0W2RrTkOPFoGuQoyatqK7QbSQWY1D4/iZlZIRR2Zsj MIeG+GYZ+9u3Yq5t4wDrrMmgZQ39NTY1PURh+ZRz7LBZl8ZxlAp89xkS IB6P8/7k2wcAlIcLK7U1ukayR2SyPu3GWFt3z9loY15e++MuRnAtE9vM zjtG/9ioWsQMugMQ/JPH04645E5oKNunHiSyi92h018JS4CKsignxI/T 878CDEm7beFBLe1ouJZJlJoeNvemLJT3rhVZ0w1AzTX8cyGLtTggkNX2 jeQcFgciRfVXEbdnJ3ivvqIYjbKYL0NdVsrkVNdS86cH82Z0vuuJjNFT wiyIGA==
                  ;; Received 525 bytes from 192.168.3.10#53(192.168.3.10) in 1 ms
                  
                  com.                    172800  IN      NS      a.gtld-servers.net.
                  com.                    172800  IN      NS      b.gtld-servers.net.
                  com.                    172800  IN      NS      c.gtld-servers.net.
                  com.                    172800  IN      NS      d.gtld-servers.net.
                  com.                    172800  IN      NS      e.gtld-servers.net.
                  com.                    172800  IN      NS      f.gtld-servers.net.
                  com.                    172800  IN      NS      g.gtld-servers.net.
                  com.                    172800  IN      NS      h.gtld-servers.net.
                  com.                    172800  IN      NS      i.gtld-servers.net.
                  com.                    172800  IN      NS      j.gtld-servers.net.
                  com.                    172800  IN      NS      k.gtld-servers.net.
                  com.                    172800  IN      NS      l.gtld-servers.net.
                  com.                    172800  IN      NS      m.gtld-servers.net.
                  com.                    86400   IN      DS      30909 8 2 E2D3C916F6DEEAC73294E8268FB5885044A833FC5459588F4A9184CF C41A5766
                  com.                    86400   IN      RRSIG   DS 8 1 86400 20180520050000 20180507040000 39570 . GiCsdUG5kyf5edT12Gdr/DT6dNUqILHfdqZ2t1vS0VY8YErVjoXRwNlr SoufI39JoZ6ChuMA3wLCo+Q9uTtRoqDKHKJU8MS7MXWyhitbQeL1cdSW insHZZVMltOH4lblQgSSPm4rte4fW+4J9lissWSPNW4d1JnHTTVtDPo+ A6jx6aYpapREv69eE89CfZ8lWBxyr788PDLw/bpwQYX5FuwzpmVZeRCQ G5j/ujt2wGn1NGs/EX3cOXpX4+0RS6fTo4YhTDZ2IIOoMg3ISz55w8Ai FczfOxxW35Gy6dhf6pV1VX943AepsYTUHjDVnK6aHTiwUcrShBtvDmXb Otk2Vg==
                  ;; Received 1174 bytes from 192.58.128.30#53(j.root-servers.net) in 45 ms
                  
                  google.com.             172800  IN      NS      ns2.google.com.
                  google.com.             172800  IN      NS      ns1.google.com.
                  google.com.             172800  IN      NS      ns3.google.com.
                  google.com.             172800  IN      NS      ns4.google.com.
                  CK0POJMG874LJREF7EFN8430QVIT8BSM.com. 86400 IN NSEC3 1 1 0 - CK0Q1GIN43N1ARRC9OSM6QPQR81H5M9A  NS SOA RRSIG DNSKEY NSEC3PARAM
                  CK0POJMG874LJREF7EFN8430QVIT8BSM.com. 86400 IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 86400 20180512044510 20180505033510 36707 com. ojEZ8Iv1J7vE5QEfjJM1YQSdFLvHhVqppd6HA3cZDZff+TdX5YSsNPf1 gVepdTn0W03LMHSmQhtZJKWE7TzTpQfJUF+UZz/Nj8CPOvRJ+hdDfoPw CIAg5ZVfzfYNSrdsOGFbkxGQ6drlE/Os5tnTcQnrDJktwBilZcohoAkn ioY=
                  S849LHDDSVU9A9N2FIRO5NKMQB321BEP.com. 86400 IN NSEC3 1 1 0 - S84CEFMDU6ABFSN4V0L2VLLOASCD5IV2  NS DS RRSIG
                  S849LHDDSVU9A9N2FIRO5NKMQB321BEP.com. 86400 IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 86400 20180513051411 20180506040411 36707 com. kQVTehhrmgeTzalwPVhWotamwKGxGb5VuGsm/T+FGU5pxaSNcutQ+YXI uukidbNumZGDv7p8hKNWy3C+RZ/o6Cm5puaxwslSBXL8jOiXau7uOnIb qFFN2pWrCsQcBUfXDTZg+mpUBk2DFPV7Ny+QZXnAAzfthbmu0L9sD+VA TBs=
                  ;; Received 776 bytes from 192.52.178.30#53(k.gtld-servers.net) in 36 ms
                  
                  www.google.com.         300     IN      A       172.217.6.100
                  ;; Received 48 bytes from 216.239.34.10#53(ns2.google.com) in 24 ms
                  
                  E:\>
                  
                  

                  That is a full resolve from my client.. lets take pfsense out of the picture for you resolving and do some tests with dig on your client.  You can download it here, just install the tools in the bind install.

                  https://www.isc.org/downloads/

                  Your dns is not functioning correctly that is for sure.. You could try using forwarding mode vs resolving. But I would be interested in finding the root cause of your problem.

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                  • kaysersosaK
                    kaysersosa
                    last edited by

                    Ran DIG from the Client PC, below is the output.

                    C:\Program Files\ISC BIND 9\bin>dig www.google.com +trace

                    ; <<>> DiG 9.11.3 <<>> www.google.com +trace
                    ;; global options: +cmd
                    ;; Received 12 bytes from 10.7.13.1#53(10.7.13.1) in 1 ms

                    C:\Program Files\ISC BIND 9\bin>

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by

                      that is not a +trace..

                      You got back nothing from unbound..  You should of gotten back roots and walked down from there.

                      Force getting the roots… do say

                      E:>dig @8.8.8.8 www.google.com +trace

                      ; <<>> DiG 9.11.3 <<>> @8.8.8.8 www.google.com +trace
                      ; (1 server found)
                      ;; global options: +cmd
                      .                      175855  IN      NS      a.root-servers.net.
                      .                      175855  IN      NS      b.root-servers.net.
                      .                      175855  IN      NS      c.root-servers.net.
                      .                      175855  IN      NS      d.root-servers.net.
                      .                      175855  IN      NS      e.root-servers.net.
                      .                      175855  IN      NS      f.root-servers.net.
                      .                      175855  IN      NS      g.root-servers.net.
                      .                      175855  IN      NS      h.root-servers.net.
                      .                      175855  IN      NS      i.root-servers.net.
                      .                      175855  IN      NS      j.root-servers.net.
                      .                      175855  IN      NS      k.root-servers.net.
                      .                      175855  IN      NS      l.root-servers.net.
                      .                      175855  IN      NS      m.root-servers.net.
                      .                      175855  IN      RRSIG  NS 8 0 518400 20180519170000 20180506160000 39570 . l8I2NF/qog7oKasVnbc5E50ay3bAXx+PahYvKlyxf+IpcoJdPrl6LUIO Z7Sfx+GJRaUyNCnBsiBdQqjyGKE/RSv+HtbUlwGb57lwOJsV3GAcCDBw gePDO350Q7kSueVqY+/Xdjyc4BbhhmGe5X4PdMONI8V74k2qMyrNVjzE vi8yL6IWizDPt3K9boWxJHVpE03GRxC9NfxtCrcTzwXdIHUBSnK6ZoYt Bys2S6/mqqeJyqJqpglpZzuvOw03MTplye0HcGZ/w7u5u2Pdhxm7Oghj Kepa0xtQEuT3oPpBFRvZTg5MKCPoeZgy82Wq8heakZztqN/gpvAgrmoL iO2mvA==
                      ;; Received 525 bytes from 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) in 12 ms

                      notice I got back the roots from 8.8.8.8

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                      • kaysersosaK
                        kaysersosa
                        last edited by

                        From the Client PC

                        C:\Program Files\ISC BIND 9\bin>dig @8.8.8.8 www.google.com +trace

                        ; <<>> DiG 9.11.3 <<>> @8.8.8.8 www.google.com +trace
                        ; (1 server found)
                        ;; global options: +cmd
                        .                      115791  IN      NS      a.root-servers.net.
                        .                      115791  IN      NS      b.root-servers.net.
                        .                      115791  IN      NS      c.root-servers.net.
                        .                      115791  IN      NS      d.root-servers.net.
                        .                      115791  IN      NS      e.root-servers.net.
                        .                      115791  IN      NS      f.root-servers.net.
                        .                      115791  IN      NS      g.root-servers.net.
                        .                      115791  IN      NS      h.root-servers.net.
                        .                      115791  IN      NS      i.root-servers.net.
                        .                      115791  IN      NS      j.root-servers.net.
                        .                      115791  IN      NS      k.root-servers.net.
                        .                      115791  IN      NS      l.root-servers.net.
                        .                      115791  IN      NS      m.root-servers.net.
                        .                      115791  IN      RRSIG  NS 8 0 518400 20180518170000 20180505160000 39570 . NEoKyFHHEdXvMg1bip/9XeAQhV22bQa04O5tUH/g2SN/9AcYb0vbkLP/ 1ur6HNU8K57rUWZl94Zmbh7NA4gGQ7SarA9OvG9wz4YrdLkWEV9Up+JI JvvH9d+IlFQdlsV9XGwZ9xJRAnz2KflsOlFO8/vbRIQyLSJXANaNp/NV KYkOaWgjghVzN8x5qbsErU9P5G/UUQ6BZdis03rGLOMkchRggV9y7+/G 5JlPtyXoNBczvDS5j29yTV0F3P3Tf5cmtiK2DfwD4Lk6thTymBcf7qfL Ga9amC4QdfvDUhXVzPOFTARvST7yzIDCqwqbuW8s7imw2Z23Q2TqTqwq 6RDhbQ==
                        couldn't get address for 'a.root-servers.net': not found
                        couldn't get address for 'b.root-servers.net': not found
                        couldn't get address for 'c.root-servers.net': not found
                        couldn't get address for 'd.root-servers.net': not found
                        couldn't get address for 'e.root-servers.net': not found
                        couldn't get address for 'f.root-servers.net': not found
                        couldn't get address for 'g.root-servers.net': not found
                        couldn't get address for 'h.root-servers.net': not found
                        couldn't get address for 'i.root-servers.net': not found
                        couldn't get address for 'j.root-servers.net': not found
                        couldn't get address for 'k.root-servers.net': not found
                        couldn't get address for 'l.root-servers.net': not found
                        couldn't get address for 'm.root-servers.net': not found
                        dig: couldn't get address for 'a.root-servers.net': no more

                        C:\Program Files\ISC BIND 9\bin>

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by

                          dude change your client to use 8.8.8.8 as its dns… Then do you dig..

                          So that allowed you to get the roots, but after that client will use its default dns to get the IP address of roots.  Your case that seems to be broken.

                          If you set your client to use 8.8.8.8 and then do a

                          dig www.google.com +trace

                          it should work

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                          • kaysersosaK
                            kaysersosa
                            last edited by

                            I think I know where to make that change, see attachment.
                            Added the 8.8.8.8 and the 8.8.4.4 and unchecked DNS Server Override.

                            Run on Client PC after change above.

                            C:\Program Files\ISC BIND 9\bin>dig www.google.com +trace

                            ; <<>> DiG 9.11.3 <<>> www.google.com +trace
                            ;; global options: +cmd
                            ;; Received 12 bytes from 10.7.13.1#53(10.7.13.1) in 0 ms

                            C:\Program Files\ISC BIND 9\bin>

                            ![sys setup.png](/public/imported_attachments/1/sys setup.png)
                            ![sys setup.png_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/sys setup.png_thumb)

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                            • kaysersosaK
                              kaysersosa
                              last edited by

                              Forgot to mention that on the Dashboard page under DNS server(s) I see the following.

                              127.0.0.1
                              8.8.8.8
                              8.8.4.4

                              Prior it was showing
                              127.0.0.1
                              99…from ISP modem
                              99...from ISP modem
                              anything I added

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by

                                all meaning less..

                                Can your client work when pointing directly at 8.8.8.8 and not to pfsense.

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                                • kaysersosaK
                                  kaysersosa
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes, hooked directly up to the ISP modem it can connect to the internet.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Dude point your client to 8.8.8.8 leave it behind pfsense..

                                    This is not that hard to pin down..

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                                    • kaysersosaK
                                      kaysersosa
                                      last edited by

                                      Sorry miss-understood what you were asking.

                                      Network setup
                                      ISP Modem -> Gig Switch -> Client PC / AP / etc

                                      I hard-set 8.8.8.8 as the DNS on the Client under Network/Properties.

                                      The client can now get to the internet.

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                                      • kaysersosaK
                                        kaysersosa
                                        last edited by

                                        So I should be good if I can get rid of the 127.0.0.1 on the pfSense router?

                                        Dashboard page under DNS server(s) I see the following.

                                        127.0.0.1
                                        8.8.8.8
                                        8.8.4.4

                                        Where is this setting at?

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                                        • kaysersosaK
                                          kaysersosa
                                          last edited by

                                          Network setup
                                          ISP Modem -> pfSense -> Gig Switch -> Client PC / AP / etc

                                          Forgot to add the pfSense in earlier in the thread.

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            If client is working fine using 8.8.8.8 then you have 2 choices troubleshoot why pfsense resolving is haivng a problem.

                                            Or just turn off resolving mode and use forwarder mode and point to 8.8.8.8

                                            No you are never going to want to remove loopback, that is pfsense asking itself.  If pfsense doesn't ask itself it will never be able to resolve any of your local host names.  And your clients your going to want to point back to pfsense once pfsense is just forwarding..

                                            But pfsense should be able to just resolve..  So I would be more curious to why it can not resolve?

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