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    IKEv2 VPN for Windows 10 and OSX - HOW-TO!

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    • K
      kroko
      last edited by

      Don't get me wrong - imho your input is great. My two cents is just
      a) If the docs are updated, it should be noted that by year 2017 standards it is insecure*.

      • which comes to offtopic for my case - i'm building something that i don't have to return to in near future and i need security, my use case is medium office infrastructure, other cases might really be security indifferent (secured traffic over unsecured tunnel is secure).
        b) If one seeks for supersimple VPN capability ("i want to login in my home media bin and don't know how to use console & SSH, only those auto SMB share icons that show up in my MSW explorer left panel; security? -  i don't care, i do not watch balck mirror :)" stuff) then there are evern simplier methods to get cross-OS VPN working, which was part of agenda of this post - having "something that works on both Windows 10 and OSX" and does not involve cert installation and what not.

      EDIT: beware, that my comments on my setup above with setting PF group for phase 2 will not work for rekeying if  Enable Perfect Forward Secrecy is off when creating profile in Apple Configurator. Either this or set pfSense not to use DH group for phase 2 (as Enable Perfect Forward Secrecy macOS/iOS will never send DH proposals).

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        lyubomyr83
        last edited by

        @kroko:

        Just tested:

        pfSense 2.4.0-BETA
        macOS 10.12
        iOS 10.2.1
        MSW 10

        All work (LAN traffic, DNS resolving, outbound traffic etc.) with certificate based IKEv2 auth just using built in OS func OOB. Currently could not be happier.

        –-----------------------------------------------------------------------

        Using DH14 as apple now supports it and MSW can be easily made to support it.

        For macOS/iOS it is super easy - just use profile(s), mail them to (users), 3 clicks and user is ready.
        Enable perfect forward secrecy must be urned on in Apple Configurator, so that DH group for Phase 2 is proposed.

        Adding MSW support was easier than I thought. I am not power user on this os. Followed this guide, but only the part that describes how to install certs on MSW and configure interface.
        For this part I created registry entry and exported as double-click-to install file that just has to be shipped to clients along with certs.

        At first, after enabling reg key, it did not work on MSW, but logs said it all

        Mar 21 15:34:42     charon          05[CFG] <con1|8> configured proposals: ESP:AES_CBC_256/HMAC_SHA2_256_128/MODP_2048/NO_EXT_SEQ
        Mar 21 15:34:42     charon          05[CFG] <con1|8> received proposals: ESP:AES_CBC_256/HMAC_SHA1_96/NO_EXT_SEQ, ESP:3DES_CBC/HMAC_SHA1_96/NO_EXT_SEQ</con1|8></con1|8>
        

        Thus phase 2 has to include also 3DES and SHA1 (which means: AES-256, 3DES for enc; SHA1, SHA256 for hash). DH group 14 for both phase 1 and Phase 2.

        Basically takes ~3min to set it up on MSW (or faster if i was poweruser and could script cert installation, vpn adapter setup).

        Profit. All mentioned OSes connect w/ cert based auth & DH14

        Now I have to test how stable IKEv2 conn is on all OSes :)

        –-----------------------------------------------------------------------

        Using DH20

        Note that per Cisco docs 3 years ago DH14 is really lowest DH group one should use, so i'll check wether DH20 (that macOS/iOS support OOB) can be brought to MSW w/o external client. This doc and this doc says ecdhp384 is supported since MSW7 which imho refers to 384 bit elliptic curve which itself is DH20.

        EDIT: DH20 can be made to work on windows OOB, see ECP384. The docs are clear so…

        switched pFsense back to DH20 @ phase 1&2
        Rolled back phase 2 - removed 3DES and SHA1 (back to AES256; SHA256 only).

        For macOS/iOS just rolled back to DH20 in Phase 1 & 2, reexported and reinstalled the profiles.
        Enable perfect forward secrecy must be urned on in Apple Configurator, so that DH group for Phase 2 is proposed.

        For MSW deleted DH14 registry entry (you have to for this to work).
        Fired up PS and

        Set-VpnConnectionIPsecConfiguration -ConnectionName "myvpnname" -AuthenticationTransformConstants SHA256 -CipherTransformConstants AES256 -EncryptionMethod AES256 -IntegrityCheckMethod SHA384 -DHGroup ECP384 -PfsGroup ECP384 -PassThru -Force
        

        Profit. All mentioned OSes connect w/ cert based auth & DH20

        –-----------------------------------------------------------------------

        I'll probably stick with DH20 now, as for macOS it does not matter, and both DH14 and DH20 need some "custom script execution" on MSW, so why not choosing the latter.


        I'm awaiting quantum resistant stuff though.

        Sorry. Who can help set ikev2 from iOS 10? You wrote you can set, but i cant. From Win10 i can connect, but not from iphone.

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          io-automation
          last edited by

          Hello,

          I Would like to follow this guide but in the configuration of the Phase1 I'm unable to select the EAP-MSCHAPv2 option as authentication option.

          Our system version is 2.3.2_1

          Thank you for your support.
          Bart

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            raidensix
            last edited by

            The guide worked for me using FreeRadius user authentication. For W10 clients, had to add another route command for the remote LAN subnet so the W10 clients could see clients in the remote network.

            thanks!

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              franken
              last edited by

              @gbitglenn:

              IKEv2 with EAP-MSCHAPv2
              ….

              SECTION B: Set up Mobile IPsec for IKEv2+EAP-MSCHAPv2

              1. Mobile Clients
                …

              2. IPSEC Phase 1
                • If the “Create Phase 1” button appeared at the top of the page after you clicked Apply in the previous step, click it. Otherwise, go to the Tunnels Tab and “Add P1”.
                • “Key Exchange version”: to IKEv2.
                • “Description”: ‘Mobile Phase 1’ (Or whatever you want, it doesn’t matter).
                • “Authentication method” to “EAP-MSChapv2”
                • “My Identifier”: ‘Distinguished name’, and enter in either the hostname or WAN IP address.
                • NOTE: This MUST match what you used as the “Common Name” of the server certificate, in Step 1.
                …...

              Am I missing anything, or why doesn't I get the option?

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                PhYrE
                last edited by

                @io-automation:

                I'm unable to select the EAP-MSCHAPv2 option as authentication option.

                @franken:

                “Authentication method” to “EAP-MSChapv2”
                Am I missing anything, or why doesn't I get the option?

                It's a stupid feature (a bug in my opinion), but you need to create the tunnel from the Mobile Clients page instead of from the Tunnels page. At the very least there is a lack of documentation (ie: something at that stage that lets you know you're in the wrong place).

                If you go to create a Tunnel from the Tunnels menu, it won't give you the option

                https://router:443/vpn_ipsec_phase1.php

                If you go to create a Tunnel from the Mobile Clients menu

                https://router:443/vpn_ipsec_phase1.php?mobile=true

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                  overpf
                  last edited by

                  Thanks for the writeup. I'm using windows 7 instead of win10, I got the VPN connected, however I could not access anything on the LAN. I notice compared to my other VPN, this connection did not set the DNS server.

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                    josey
                    last edited by

                    thanks this worked for me under win 7

                    question is
                    if i turn off default gw in VPN connection (under win 7 network vpn connection), and internet passes directly, i cant connecto to servers behind vpn.
                    If i turn on default gw under VPN connection, internet goes through VPN and i can access servers behind VPN.

                    I guess i have to add default route for servers subnet? but what is my gw then, because there is no IPV4 address of IKEv2 under connection details.

                    i hope you will understand what im asking, because i think i didnt explain this very well.

                    thanks

                    edit:
                    i add route
                    route add "server netvork" mask 255.255.255.0 "ip address of ike vpn" -p
                    and it is working.
                    but, if i have two or more useres connected and if ip address change, than route will not work.
                    I need ipv4 address of ikev2 server to add correct route. and it seems there is no one :(

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                      helviojr
                      last edited by

                      @josey:

                      I guess i have to add default route for servers subnet? but what is my gw then, because there is no IPV4 address of IKEv2 under connection details.

                      I didn't test IKEv2 yet (still on L2TP with IKEv1), but it seem you can create route using device, instead of gateway IP:

                      • use ipconfig to get the name of each device (you probably can get those form GUI also);
                      • use route print to get the number of each interface, and get the one of your VPN device (the table at the begining of "route print" command output);
                      • create the route using "IF" option instead of the gateway address:

                      route ADD 10.10.10.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 IF 10 -p
                      (this would create a route to subnet 10.10.10.0/24 through interface number 10)

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                        peter911
                        last edited by

                        Hello guys!

                        I can connect to the IKEv2 IPSec VPN and ping both WAN and LAN NIC from my pfsense but I cannot ping other hosts in the remote LAN

                        Thanks!

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                          tabs
                          last edited by

                          @gbitglenn:

                          @jimp:

                          This is almost entirely the same as the existing doc except for the client setup. The original doc was written to be used against either Windows 10 or OS X, depending on the settings. There are ways to use both, but as you've found it isn't so straightforward.

                          The native IKEv2 client on OS X works fine when you configure it properly using our export tool (if you're on the factory version), or by crafting a profile using Apple Configurator 2. Then it can use the same settings recommended for Windows 10 and they'll both work OK without third-party software.

                          Sure, you can install strongSwan and use that but I wouldn't pick that over the native client in most cases.

                          For the Windows 10 setup, I do need to put up the parts for using powershell since using split routing is a common request, though using the GUI to setup the VPN still works fine.

                          Hi there,

                          The original is well done just needs some updates and clarification. I was offering to do that but it looks like you're the actual maintainer of the doc anyway.

                          The changes on the doc are in a few places - I'd have to do a side-by-side comparison, but there were a few key things. (And of course that whole PowerShell nonsense if you need split routing). (Nonsense on MS's part not your or PFSense's part). Agreed the VPN setup using the GUI will also work fine, I just figured since the user has to issue PowerShell commands anyway it's quicker and less prone to missed steps to issue the initial VPN setup as well.

                          Re: use of 3rd-party client software ie: StongSwan. Personally I looked at using that vs. a to-be-installed tool kinda one in the same problem - only that StrongSwan is just quicker and easier to set up. Up to the user which one is best for their particular situation I guess. If you have a dozen client computers to maintain, perhaps the tool would be best. Maybe both options should be noted.

                          At the end of the day hey, you're the one who works here and it's your doc to maintain. I'm just trying to save people the headaches I had to go through that's all. I'm happy to pitch in where needed. (In particular on the OSX side).

                          Take care,
                          -G

                          Thank you very much. I have set up a few VPNs, and recently set up 2 at different sites., both in the latest version.

                          Strangely I only had to run the powershell command to connect to one of the sites. thank you very much for the information, and thanks also to the creators of the original doc.

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                            peter911
                            last edited by

                            @peter911:

                            Hello guys!

                            I can connect to the IKEv2 IPSec VPN and ping both WAN and LAN NIC from my pfsense but I cannot ping other hosts in the remote LAN

                            Thanks!

                            Hi all,

                            Is there anyone, who could help me? How to start debugging what's wrong in my config?

                            Thank you,

                            Peter

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                              mikecpt
                              last edited by

                              sorry to reopen this, but following the same config for windows 10 I was able to set dh20 via powershelll but I get a odd certificate issue:

                              Aug 24 22:12:29 charon 08[IKE] <2> received cert request for unknown ca with keyid xx:xx:xx..
                              Aug 24 22:12:29 charon 08[IKE] <2> received cert request for unknown ca with keyid xx:xx:xx..
                              Aug 24 22:12:29 charon 08[IKE] <2> received cert request for unknown ca with keyid xx:xx:xx..
                              Aug 24 22:12:29 charon 08[IKE] <2> received cert request for unknown ca with keyid xx:xx:xx..
                              Aug 24 22:12:29 charon 08[IKE] <2> received cert request for unknown ca with keyid xx:xx:xx..
                              Aug 24 22:12:29 charon 08[IKE] <2> received cert request for unknown ca with keyid xx:xx:xx..
                              Aug 24 22:12:29 charon 08[IKE] <2> received cert request for unknown ca with keyid xx:xx:xx..
                              Aug 24 22:12:29 charon 08[IKE] <2> received cert request for unknown ca with keyid xx:xx:xx..
                              Aug 24 22:12:29 charon 08[IKE] <2> received 41 cert requests for an unknown ca

                              The ca is installed to the trusted store and this works fine on OSX with the same ca :/

                              I was using the IP for remote connection and unlike OSX you can't set the Address and the actual remote identifier so I change to use a public dns name set in cloudflare and created a new server certificate , updated the OSX profile which still works, but in windows I get the same exact issue.

                              Unfortuntly I didn't find much help on google (other then it being related to the CN/subject names, but that should be a issue if using the FQDN name to connect and use that as CN/add dns and IP to alt subject names.

                              Any ideas?

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                                mikecpt
                                last edited by

                                Actually I was focusing on that cause I didn't see this in the OSX successful connection, but there also:

                                 24 22:12:29 	charon 		08[CFG] <2> looking for peer configs matching 192.x.x.x[%any]....x.x.x.x.[172.16xx.x]
                                Aug 24 22:12:29 	charon 		08[CFG] <2> candidate "bypasslan", match: 1/1/24 (me/other/ike)
                                Aug 24 22:12:29 	charon 		08[CFG] <2> candidate "con-mobile", match: 1/1/1052 (me/other/ike)
                                Aug 24 22:12:29 	charon 		08[CFG] <2> ignore candidate 'con-mobile' without matching IKE proposal
                                Aug 24 22:12:29 	charon 		08[CFG] <bypasslan|2> selected peer config 'bypasslan'
                                Aug 24 22:12:29 	charon 		08[IKE] <bypasslan|2> peer requested EAP, config unacceptable
                                Aug 24 22:12:29 	charon 		08[CFG] <bypasslan|2> no alternative config found 
                                
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                                • perikoP
                                  periko
                                  last edited by periko

                                  I could finally connect my windows 10 pro, but results are:

                                  Windows 10 Good.
                                  Windows 8, good no need to add the route command, but once the vpn connect, all the traffic goes over the vpn, I still checking this.
                                  Windows 7 no luck, trying different settings.
                                  Android strongswan no luck yet
                                  Ubuntu strongwan no luck yet

                                  Thanks for the tutorial.

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                                  • havastamasH
                                    havastamas
                                    last edited by

                                    I have followed this guide and i can connect to my pfsense vpn server with my Windows 10 client, but i cant connect my Android phone. Is there any way to make it work with Android too?

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                                      sae
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks so much for this. I'm new to pfsense and was ripping my hair out on the wiki how to page "https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/vpn/ipsec/configuring-an-ipsec-remote-access-mobile-vpn-using-ikev2-with-eap-mschapv2.html" not working. Nothing but auth errors on my windows 10 machine. Changing to your settings had it connect right away.

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                                        jklmn12345
                                        last edited by jklmn12345

                                        I have been using this and the original document link today. I was wondering if any of the hardcore pfsense guys might consider expanding it to cover LANs segmented with VLANs?

                                        I'm attempting to get a remote access VPN lab up with departmental VLANs on the inside and cannot figure out how I need to alter the steps for this scenario. I've tried setting the local network to a specific VLAN and also to 0.0.0.0 but I can't get a ping working from client to any of the VLANs.

                                        Another thread here asks about how to do this but has had no response. The poster tried adding multiple P2 entries but I can't see anything in the docs that says this is the right thing to do. I'm going to try that anyway but was wondering if anyone who knows for sure would consider expending these helpful links.

                                        UPDATE
                                        My issue was because I didn't get it that the Windows 10 VPN client defaults to split tunnelling and also does not populate routes to other segments. Forum post here. Probably obvious to most others but updating this comment now I get it in case not.

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                                          mmangiante @helviojr
                                          last edited by

                                          @helviojr said in IKEv2 VPN for Windows 10 and OSX - HOW-TO!:

                                          @josey:

                                          I guess i have to add default route for servers subnet? but what is my gw then, because there is no IPV4 address of IKEv2 under connection details.

                                          I didn't test IKEv2 yet (still on L2TP with IKEv1), but it seem you can create route using device, instead of gateway IP:

                                          • use ipconfig to get the name of each device (you probably can get those form GUI also);
                                          • use route print to get the number of each interface, and get the one of your VPN device (the table at the begining of "route print" command output);
                                          • create the route using "IF" option instead of the gateway address:

                                          route ADD 10.10.10.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 IF 10 -p
                                          (this would create a route to subnet 10.10.10.0/24 through interface number 10)

                                          Sometimes I prefer the Powershell command:

                                          Add-VpnConnectionRoute -ConnectionName "[vpn_connection_name]" -DestinationPrefix [network]/[Prefix]
                                          

                                          so for example it becomes:

                                          Add-VpnConnectionRoute -ConnectionName "[vpn_connection_name]" -DestinationPrefix 10.10.10.0/24
                                          

                                          I use this because connection name is simple to recognize even for people with no technical skills.

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