Watchguard Firebox M400/M500

stephenw10

The installer image has both efi and freebsd-boot partitions so it should boot either.

In the MBT which only boots efi the installer only adds en efi image. I'm pretty sure I didn't do anything special there. I suspect it adds the partion type depending on how the installer booted. Trying to confirm that.

So if you installed to a HD in an efi laptop it will probably work.

Steve

N1ck

Ok, geom part list command executed on pfsense 2.1(grabbed a 1gb card from my dad). Seems MBR, but it could be that sata needs efi(as each sata port needs to be configured and can only accept what was configured by firebox). I don't have the vga cable yet, so I can't run anything to grab the bios image.

# geom part list
Geom name: ad4
modified: false
state: OK
fwheads: 16
fwsectors: 63
last: 1969631
first: 63
entries: 4
scheme: MBR
Providers:
1\. Name: ad4s1
   Mediasize: 472195584 (450M)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Stripesize: 0
   Stripeoffset: 32256
   Mode: r1w0e2
   attrib: active
   rawtype: 165
   length: 472195584
   offset: 32256
   type: freebsd
   index: 1
   end: 922319
   start: 63
2\. Name: ad4s2
   Mediasize: 472195584 (450M)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Stripesize: 0
   Stripeoffset: 472260096
   Mode: r0w0e0
   rawtype: 165
   length: 472195584
   offset: 472260096
   type: freebsd
   index: 2
   end: 1844639
   start: 922383
3\. Name: ad4s3
   Mediasize: 52641792 (50M)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Stripesize: 0
   Stripeoffset: 944455680
   Mode: r1w0e2
   rawtype: 165
   length: 52641792
   offset: 944455680
   type: freebsd
   index: 3
   end: 1947455
   start: 1844640
Consumers:
1\. Name: ad4
   Mediasize: 1008451584 (961M)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Mode: r2w0e4

Geom name: ad4s1
modified: false
state: OK
fwheads: 16
fwsectors: 63
last: 922256
first: 0
entries: 8
scheme: BSD
Providers:
1\. Name: ad4s1a
   Mediasize: 472187392 (450M)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Stripesize: 0
   Stripeoffset: 40448
   Mode: r1w0e2
   rawtype: 0
   length: 472187392
   offset: 8192
   type: !0
   index: 1
   end: 922256
   start: 16
Consumers:
1\. Name: ad4s1
   Mediasize: 472195584 (450M)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Stripesize: 0
   Stripeoffset: 32256
   Mode: r1w0e2

Geom name: ad4s2
modified: false
state: OK
fwheads: 16
fwsectors: 63
last: 922256
first: 0
entries: 8
scheme: BSD
Providers:
1\. Name: ad4s2a
   Mediasize: 472187392 (450M)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Stripesize: 0
   Stripeoffset: 472268288
   Mode: r0w0e0
   rawtype: 0
   length: 472187392
   offset: 8192
   type: !0
   index: 1
   end: 922256
   start: 16
Consumers:
1\. Name: ad4s2
   Mediasize: 472195584 (450M)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Stripesize: 0
   Stripeoffset: 472260096
   Mode: r0w0e0

ADDED: I don't have any other device that uses uefi boot. laptops and computers all don't use uefi.

N1ck

Tested MBR image in CF->works.
Image installed to ssd->doesn't work.

So it seems my router requires UEFI on sata. The router has a locked bios, so can't change anything there.
The pfsense 2.4.3 image has uefi, but when it installs it formats the ssd GPT and doesn't add an efi-partition with data to the ssd. So I think I just need an option to let pfsense install an efi-partition and data on the ssd.

stephenw10

You can just add an efi partition using the manual install method. I've never tried that and don't have any easy way to test it but it should work.

You can probably remove the freebsd-boot slice too. Though it should work with both in place.

Steve

N1ck

With manual installation I can add an efi-partition. But pfsense doesn't install anything in it, so it's just an empty partition. Maybe I need to use another command to install something in the efi-partition?

stephenw10

Ok try installing using the 'Auto (ZFS)' option. Then you can set the Partition Scheme to GPT(UEFI) or GPT (BIOS+UEFI). Both of which should boot.

[2.4.3-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/root: gpart show
=>     40  8388528  ada0  GPT  (4.0G)
       40   409600     1  efi  (200M)
   409640     1024     2  freebsd-boot  (512K)
   410664      984        - free -  (492K)
   411648  7974912     3  freebsd-zfs  (3.8G)
  8386560     2008        - free -  (1.0M)

Steve

N1ck

That worked! I selected GPT(UEFI) and it installed and booted without a problem.

stephenw10

Nice! :D

That's weird. Learned something there though.

Steve

N1ck

Yeah it seems my Firebox M500 will only boot an hdd or ssd on sata port 3. 2 and 4 will not work(won't even now I installed it on port 3).

And the Firebox M500 will boot MBR on CF, but requires UEFI on sata.

Strange, but with my tests it looks like this is 100% true.

stephenw10

I imagined that would be identical to the m400 other than RAM and CPU but maybe not.

You can dump the BIOS image from the pfSense command line using flashrom but it cannot re-write it.

pkg install flashrom

rehash

flashrom -p internal -r /root/backup.rom

Reading that should be no risk but any operation involving the carries some danger. I've done that several times here though.

Steve

Scorch95

Those with ssd installations are you installing a bracket to hold the drive or just letting it sit inside the case?

stephenw10

I'm not currently but I previously found adhesive velcro pads to be an acceptable solution for SSDs at least.

Steve

Scorch95

I have an m400 on the way but is the 4GB DDR3 RDimm or UDimm?

iJay-XTM5

@scorch95 I just have the SSD inside the M400 without any brackets. The stiffness in the power supply and SATA cables is enough to hold it in place. Besides I hardly move the M400. Sometime in the future I am considering a CPU upgrade for AES-NI capability, I might use that opportunity to get or make my own brackets for the SSD at that time.

iJay-XTM5

@scorch95 Sorry I re-read your question and realized I did not answer it correctly. I cannot find anything indicated on the RAM stick itself, but found the following on Lanner's FW-7585 manual. Dual-channel DDR3/DDR3L 1066/1333/1600 MHz, un-buffered, non-ECC or ECC.
Here's what mine looks like.

0_1529550833172_IMG_3328si.jpg

Scorch95

@ijay-xtm5

Thanks. I figured unbuffered was the likely answered but figured it was worth asking before buying a some additional ram.

Scorch95

Stephen do we know if this will support Xeon E3-12XX v3 chips? Looking at Lanners literature it seems to only show i series but with a c226 chipset I’d imagine it would but you never know.

stephenw10

No idea, sorry. I don't have such things to play with.

It wouldn't surprise me though. The BIOS appears to have this microcode:

I can't easily see what CPUs that might suggest...

Steve

Scorch95

Well got my m400 in finally. Also received an i3-4370 to go with it. It already has pfSense on it but I believe it’s attached to a CF card rather than a ssd. I’ll need to swap the cpu and reinstall to a spare ssd and I’ll be set for the eventual 2.5 release.

Scorch95

CPU has been switched and system powers up. Got it attached to my network currently to test system out. Will try to get SSD installed and pfsense moved over from CF card in the next day or so.