Discovery across vlans
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@jknott said in Discovery across vlans:
I assume you'd have to set up port forwarding for the protocols used by those apps.
Port forward from where to where?
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@mtk said in Discovery across vlans:
@jknott said in Discovery across vlans:
I assume you'd have to set up port forwarding for the protocols used by those apps.
Port forward from where to where?
Traffic between VLAN is wide open (see screenshot above).Find out what protocols/port numbers are used, then configure pfSense to forward them to the receiver. It's exactly the same thing as when you have to get past NAT to reach computers on your home network. You determine what has to be forwarded and where.
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@jknott said in Discovery across vlans:
@mtk said in Discovery across vlans:
@jknott said in Discovery across vlans:
I assume you'd have to set up port forwarding for the protocols used by those apps.
Port forward from where to where?
Traffic between VLAN is wide open (see screenshot above).Find out what protocols/port numbers are used, then configure pfSense to forward them to the receiver. It's exactly the same thing as when you have to get past NAT to reach computers on your home network. You determine what has to be forwarded and where.
well, yes, but we still have the "thing" where it works for iPhone/Macbook (so it's probably open), but not for Android and there are no real blocked entries in the log...
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@mtk said in Discovery across vlans:
well, yes, but we still have the “thing” where it works for iPhone/Macbook (so it’s probably open), but not for Android and there are no real blocked entries in the log…
Does the app on those devices have settings for gateway and subnet mask? If not, I have no idea how they manage to work through a router.
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@jknott said in Discovery across vlans:
@mtk said in Discovery across vlans:
well, yes, but we still have the “thing” where it works for iPhone/Macbook (so it’s probably open), but not for Android and there are no real blocked entries in the log…
Does the app on those devices have settings for gateway and subnet mask? If not, I have no idea how they manage to work through a router.
The app is the Spotify (official) app and no, it doesn't even have IP settings - it just "finds" the Marantz.
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@mtk
May I suggest you ask spotify what differences there are between their working iOS app and their not working Android app in your scenario. -
@jahonix said in Discovery across vlans:
@mtk
May I suggest you ask spotify what differences there are between their working iOS app and their not working Android app in your scenario.I'll do that, but in the meantime, is there any way to see what the iOS/MacOS are doing network-wise vs the Android?
I mean, they are probably initiating some sort of request to see "how is out there", right? -
@mtk said in Discovery across vlans:
is there any way to see what the iOS/MacOS are doing network-wise vs the Android?
You can use Packet Capture record the traffic and then download for viewing with Wireshark. If you have a managed switch, you can use Wireshark directly by configuring the switch for port mirroring.
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You don't need to configure a subnet or gateway in the phone app for the same reason you need need one in your web browser. It just uses the hosts IP stack with whatever the default route is.
Steve
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@stephenw10 said in Discovery across vlans:
ou don’t need to configure a subnet or gateway in the phone app for the same reason you need need one in your web browser. It just uses the hosts IP stack with whatever the default route is.
Quite so. Not thinking straight. Not enough beer. ;)
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...or too many. Tough to stay o the Ballmer peak for any length of time.
@mtk If the amp has a webgui for configuring it I assume you can hit that from any device on any subnet?
Steve
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@stephenw10 said in Discovery across vlans:
...or too many. Tough to stay o the Ballmer peak for any length of time.
@mtk If the amp has a webgui for configuring it I assume you can hit that from any device on any subnet?
Steve
Yes, I can access the Marantz webgui from all WIFI connected devices.
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@jahonix said in Discovery across vlans:
HEOS App
I just installed the Marantz 2016 AVR Remote which doesn't support my old Marantz, but I added its IP manually and actually got a message saying something like:
NR1504 is not compatible with this app use the other
so my Android DOES manage to see the Marantz after all... -
@mtk Great or not, you decide.
This means that the network is out of the equation and the "problem" is with the Android App only.
Good luck getting that one fixed with Denon/Marantz! -
@jahonix said in Discovery across vlans:
@mtk Great or not, you decide.
This means that the network is out of the equation and the "problem" is with the Android App only.
Good luck getting that one fixed with Denon/Marantz!And Spotify as well...
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I just figured out the reason that my Android's Spotify doesn't recognise the Marantz:
the Spotify app was set to "show only devices on my network".
when I set this OFF, the Marantz appear in the list.
This still doesn't explain why does Spotify thing the Marantz is actually "outside" of the network...
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@mtk said in Discovery across vlans:
This still doesn’t explain why does Spotify thing the Marantz is actually “outside” of the network…
I expect it considers "on network" to mean there's no router in between. When you go through a router, it has no idea where the device might be.
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That^.
Seems like a fairly accurate description to me.There are 3rd party apps for controlling Denon/Marantz stuff. One of those might work for you.
Steve
