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    Cannot get 10Gbase-T on LAN (only 1000baseT)

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    • JKnottJ
      JKnott
      last edited by

      What's on the other end of the cable? 10G has to be supported on both ends.

      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
      UniFi AC-Lite access point

      I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Assuming the other end is 10G capable perhaps it's fixed to 1G?

        If it isn't have you tried setting a fixed 10G link speed in pfSense?

        Steve

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        • ?
          A Former User @JKnott
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          @jknott Hi JKnott, the Intel NIC is dual port. So, so one port is connected to a 10 gigabit pro safe switch and second port on the nic is connected to my 1 gigabit shaw modem. Could that be why? Is pfsense normally supposed to detect 10g automatically?

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          • ?
            A Former User @stephenw10
            last edited by

            @stephenw10 Hi stephenw10, the Intel NIC is dual port. So, so one port is connected to a 10 gigabit pro safe switch and second port on the nic is connected to my 1 gigabit shaw modem. I think I have tried forcing 10 gigabit on the LAN interface and it didn't work. I'll try it again right now though to double check

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            • ?
              A Former User @A Former User
              last edited by

              @techgeek055 odd, when i click apply I get:
              PPP Password and confirmed password must match!
              PTPP Password and confirmed password must match!

              Never got that before :D

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Sounds like your browser might be filling in some form field when you try to edit the interface. Or maybe you have a left over setting somewhere.

                I would expect that NIC to auto-negotiate 1G/10G but I have seen some Intel cards that did not and would only establish a link when hard set.

                Steve

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                • SammyWooS
                  SammyWoo @A Former User
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                  @techgeek055 Actually Pfsense, the App, doesn't preocuppy itself with NIC speeds, other than ask the OS what is and display it to you. This maybe a case of living on the bleeding edge, may need a proper NIC driver for FreeBSD.

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                  • ?
                    A Former User @stephenw10
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10 You were right about the browser trying to fill in a password causing the two errors :D

                    I am going to try moving the WAN connected to the 1gigabit shaw modem off of the 10 gigabit intel nic and onto it's own NIC and see if that makes any difference!

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                    • ?
                      A Former User
                      last edited by A Former User

                      looks like leaving just the 10g connection for lan on the intel nic didn't get pfsense to detect 10g conneciton. (and removing the 1Gb connection from the intel nic)

                      It let's me pick 10Gbase-T on the interface settings but when I look at the main page that monitors the interfaces, the LAN still says: 1000baseT <full-duplex,rxpause,txpause>

                      On my WAN interface settings there is no 10Gbase-T option, only 1000Base-T. So it appears that the drop down at least detects 10Gbase-T and allows you to select it as an option but it appears to do nothing and the monitor still says 1000base-T.

                      :(

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                      • ?
                        A Former User @SammyWoo
                        last edited by A Former User

                        @sammywoo It lets me pick 10Gbase-T on the LAN interface settings but when I look at the main page that monitors the interfaces, the LAN still says: 1000baseT <full-duplex,rxpause,txpause>.

                        If I try to pick 10Gbase-T on my WAN connection which is using a 1000base-T nic, the option of 10Gbase-T is not there. So at least in the interface settings, it seems to detect the 10Gbase-T and you can pick it. But monitor still says my LAN is on 1000base-T :(

                        Do you think it's the driver still? If so, is the process easy? do you have a resource for instructions?

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          If you set it to 10G and it make no difference I'd say that setting hasn't applied. Reboot to be sure.

                          If the other end is set to 1G for some reason then setting it to 10G fixed should cause the link to fail.

                          It could be a cable that can't support 10G perhaps?

                          Steve

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                          • ?
                            A Former User @stephenw10
                            last edited by

                            @stephenw10 Hi, rebooting made no difference. The other end is 10G and the cable is CAT 7 I believe or at least CAT 6A.

                            Maybe I just need to rebuild the whole pfsense firewall. :(

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                            • JKnottJ
                              JKnott @A Former User
                              last edited by

                              @techgeek055 said in Cannot get 10Gbase-T on LAN (only 1000baseT):

                              If I try to pick 10Gbase-T on my WAN connection which is using a 1000base-T nic, the option of 10Gbase-T is not there.

                              That might be a clue right there. If your NIC doesn't support 10G, then no setting will make it. 10G is 10 Gigabit, which is 10x what your NIC supports.

                              PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                              i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                              UniFi AC-Lite access point

                              I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                              • JKnottJ
                                JKnott
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                                One other thing, normally there's no need to set the bandwidth on an interface. NICs use auto-negotiation to automagically determine the best possible bandwidth. In fact, manually setting it can cause problems, if you mismatch the interfaces.

                                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User @JKnott
                                  last edited by

                                  @jknott Thanks JKnott, I will put WAN and LAN back on auto negotiate. But my interfaces on the monitor on the main page still says 1000Gbase-T. WAN is correct, since my modem is only 1Gigabit but for my LAN everything on both ends and inbetween are 10Gigabit hardware.

                                  I'm probably just going to re-build the firewall from scratch over the weekend. I'll let ya'll know how it goes.

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                                  • JKnottJ
                                    JKnott @A Former User
                                    last edited by

                                    @techgeek055 said in Cannot get 10Gbase-T on LAN (only 1000baseT):

                                    WAN is correct, since my modem is only 1Gigabit but for my LAN everything on both ends and inbetween are 10Gigabit hardware.

                                    What's on the other side of the switch is irrelevant. Each link will auto-negotiate independent of what other links on your LAN are doing. So, for you to get 10Gb, both the device and the switch need to support 10 GB. Does your switch really support 10G? Switches that do tend to be a bit on the expensive side.

                                    PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                    i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                    UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                    I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User @JKnott
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                                      @jknott Yes sir! My switch is 10 gigabit as well. Model: Netgear ProSAFE 16-Port 10-Gigabit Ethernet Smart Managed Switch (XS716T-100NES). My computer and VMs all say 10 gigabit without any tinkering.

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                                      • P
                                        P3R
                                        last edited by

                                        How long is the cable?

                                        Double-check that the switch port is set to Auto. If it is, try with another cable. The cable could be damaged.

                                        I've had no problems with the similar Netgear XS712T. It have negotiated properly with Intel X550-T2, QNAP QXG-10G1T and even low quality Startech ST10000SPEX but always only with short (2-5 m) cables.

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                                        • JKnottJ
                                          JKnott @P3R
                                          last edited by

                                          @p3r said in Cannot get 10Gbase-T on LAN (only 1000baseT):

                                          Double-check that the switch port is set to Auto. If it is, try with another cable. The cable could be damaged.

                                          As mentioned earlier, he was trying to get 10 Gb from a Gb NIC. That tends not to work that well. Also, handshaking takes place at 10 Mb, so if the cable is good at that rate, the NICs will try to connect at the best speed, not knowing the cable may be defective.

                                          PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                          i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                          UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                          I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                          • ?
                                            A Former User @P3R
                                            last edited by

                                            @p3r Hi P3R, my cable going from LAN port to my netgear switch is very short too, 2-4 ft. I turned the LAN port to auto negotiate in my pfsense gui. I'll try swapping out the cable!

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