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    Cannot get 10Gbase-T on LAN (only 1000baseT)

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    • SammyWooS
      SammyWoo @A Former User
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      @techgeek055 Actually Pfsense, the App, doesn't preocuppy itself with NIC speeds, other than ask the OS what is and display it to you. This maybe a case of living on the bleeding edge, may need a proper NIC driver for FreeBSD.

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      • ?
        A Former User @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 You were right about the browser trying to fill in a password causing the two errors :D

        I am going to try moving the WAN connected to the 1gigabit shaw modem off of the 10 gigabit intel nic and onto it's own NIC and see if that makes any difference!

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        • ?
          A Former User
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          looks like leaving just the 10g connection for lan on the intel nic didn't get pfsense to detect 10g conneciton. (and removing the 1Gb connection from the intel nic)

          It let's me pick 10Gbase-T on the interface settings but when I look at the main page that monitors the interfaces, the LAN still says: 1000baseT <full-duplex,rxpause,txpause>

          On my WAN interface settings there is no 10Gbase-T option, only 1000Base-T. So it appears that the drop down at least detects 10Gbase-T and allows you to select it as an option but it appears to do nothing and the monitor still says 1000base-T.

          :(

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          • ?
            A Former User @SammyWoo
            last edited by A Former User

            @sammywoo It lets me pick 10Gbase-T on the LAN interface settings but when I look at the main page that monitors the interfaces, the LAN still says: 1000baseT <full-duplex,rxpause,txpause>.

            If I try to pick 10Gbase-T on my WAN connection which is using a 1000base-T nic, the option of 10Gbase-T is not there. So at least in the interface settings, it seems to detect the 10Gbase-T and you can pick it. But monitor still says my LAN is on 1000base-T :(

            Do you think it's the driver still? If so, is the process easy? do you have a resource for instructions?

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              If you set it to 10G and it make no difference I'd say that setting hasn't applied. Reboot to be sure.

              If the other end is set to 1G for some reason then setting it to 10G fixed should cause the link to fail.

              It could be a cable that can't support 10G perhaps?

              Steve

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              • ?
                A Former User @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 Hi, rebooting made no difference. The other end is 10G and the cable is CAT 7 I believe or at least CAT 6A.

                Maybe I just need to rebuild the whole pfsense firewall. :(

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                • JKnottJ
                  JKnott @A Former User
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                  @techgeek055 said in Cannot get 10Gbase-T on LAN (only 1000baseT):

                  If I try to pick 10Gbase-T on my WAN connection which is using a 1000base-T nic, the option of 10Gbase-T is not there.

                  That might be a clue right there. If your NIC doesn't support 10G, then no setting will make it. 10G is 10 Gigabit, which is 10x what your NIC supports.

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                  • JKnottJ
                    JKnott
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                    One other thing, normally there's no need to set the bandwidth on an interface. NICs use auto-negotiation to automagically determine the best possible bandwidth. In fact, manually setting it can cause problems, if you mismatch the interfaces.

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                    • ?
                      A Former User @JKnott
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                      @jknott Thanks JKnott, I will put WAN and LAN back on auto negotiate. But my interfaces on the monitor on the main page still says 1000Gbase-T. WAN is correct, since my modem is only 1Gigabit but for my LAN everything on both ends and inbetween are 10Gigabit hardware.

                      I'm probably just going to re-build the firewall from scratch over the weekend. I'll let ya'll know how it goes.

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                      • JKnottJ
                        JKnott @A Former User
                        last edited by

                        @techgeek055 said in Cannot get 10Gbase-T on LAN (only 1000baseT):

                        WAN is correct, since my modem is only 1Gigabit but for my LAN everything on both ends and inbetween are 10Gigabit hardware.

                        What's on the other side of the switch is irrelevant. Each link will auto-negotiate independent of what other links on your LAN are doing. So, for you to get 10Gb, both the device and the switch need to support 10 GB. Does your switch really support 10G? Switches that do tend to be a bit on the expensive side.

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                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
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                        • ?
                          A Former User @JKnott
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                          @jknott Yes sir! My switch is 10 gigabit as well. Model: Netgear ProSAFE 16-Port 10-Gigabit Ethernet Smart Managed Switch (XS716T-100NES). My computer and VMs all say 10 gigabit without any tinkering.

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                            P3R
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                            How long is the cable?

                            Double-check that the switch port is set to Auto. If it is, try with another cable. The cable could be damaged.

                            I've had no problems with the similar Netgear XS712T. It have negotiated properly with Intel X550-T2, QNAP QXG-10G1T and even low quality Startech ST10000SPEX but always only with short (2-5 m) cables.

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                            • JKnottJ
                              JKnott @P3R
                              last edited by

                              @p3r said in Cannot get 10Gbase-T on LAN (only 1000baseT):

                              Double-check that the switch port is set to Auto. If it is, try with another cable. The cable could be damaged.

                              As mentioned earlier, he was trying to get 10 Gb from a Gb NIC. That tends not to work that well. Also, handshaking takes place at 10 Mb, so if the cable is good at that rate, the NICs will try to connect at the best speed, not knowing the cable may be defective.

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                              i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                              UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                                A Former User @P3R
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                                @p3r Hi P3R, my cable going from LAN port to my netgear switch is very short too, 2-4 ft. I turned the LAN port to auto negotiate in my pfsense gui. I'll try swapping out the cable!

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                                  P3R @JKnott
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                                  @jknott said in Cannot get 10Gbase-T on LAN (only 1000baseT):

                                  As mentioned earlier, he was trying to get 10 Gb from a Gb NIC.

                                  I'm sorry but I can't find that in the thread but Intel X540-T2 (as reported in the first post) is a 10 GbE NIC.

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                                    P3R @A Former User
                                    last edited by P3R

                                    @techgeek055 said in Cannot get 10Gbase-T on LAN (only 1000baseT):

                                    I turned the LAN port to auto negotiate in my pfsense gui.

                                    Yes but I asked you to double-check that also the switch port is set to Auto negotiation:
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                                    • BabizB
                                      Babiz @A Former User
                                      last edited by Babiz

                                      @techgeek055 said in [Cannot get 10Gbase-T on LAN (only 1000baseT)]

                                      I'm probably just going to re-build the firewall from scratch over the weekend. I'll let ya'll know how it goes.

                                      Well first of all make sure 10Giga nics works in p2p mode, I think some like linux live distro loaded on pfsense box and watch it shows about auto configured ethernet link!, Best simply pratice to remove iOperating system and driver issue

                                      So go to load your favourite linux distro on it! Yeah, it's a way to figure it out for "ensure" it is OK at full speed or NOK right now.
                                      Bye

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                                      • ?
                                        A Former User
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                                        I "think" (i'm not 100% sure) I know what happened now. I was using a dual port 10 gigabit nic (intel x540-t2). 1 port was the WAN and one port was the LAN. I installed another 10 gigabit nic card to use as the LAN and it is detected as 10Gbase-T on LAN now. Maybe both ports on the 10 gigabit intel x540-t2 cannot run 10 gigabit simultaneously?

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                                        • BabizB
                                          Babiz @A Former User
                                          last edited by Babiz

                                          @techgeek055 said in Cannot get 10Gbase-T on LAN (only 1000baseT):

                                          intel x540-t2

                                          From Datasheet :Product Overview
                                          "The X540 is a derivative of the 82599, the Intel 10 GbE Network Interface Controller
                                          (NIC) targeted for blade servers. Many features of its predecessor remain intact;
                                          however, some have been removed or modified as well as new features introduced.
                                          The X540 includes two integrated 10GBASE-T copper Physical Layer Transceivers (PHYs).
                                          A standard MDIO interface, accessible to software via MAC control registers, is used to
                                          configure and monitor each PHY operation.
                                          The X540 also supports a single port configuration."

                                          So, if "single" configuration is "supported", maybe better check defaults intel bsd driver variable, with sysctl...
                                          And reading datasheet of hardware is also good pratice. Look at "Network Features" you can see X540 NOT support of non Auto-Negotiation Partner
                                          and others useful info, under good Intell product datasheet ๐ŸŒฎ
                                          alt text

                                          Oh and when I reading datasheet and is very full of hints about how X540 chipset work.

                                          Last advice, move your nic to other next 8X PCIexpress slot and check PCIe bandwidth will help, I mean, you need to "reserve" almost 20 Gbits of bandwidth from PCIe bus, for allowing proper work of this chipset with high load
                                          . Server motherboard must do it if enough resoures is available, so handle this resouce with a motherboard full of dual 10Gbe nic's ๐ŸŽ (just kidding) may lower overall performance.
                                          Or I'm just go to bananas ๐Ÿบ

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                                          • JKnottJ
                                            JKnott @P3R
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                                            @p3r said in Cannot get 10Gbase-T on LAN (only 1000baseT):

                                            @jknott said in Cannot get 10Gbase-T on LAN (only 1000baseT):

                                            As mentioned earlier, he was trying to get 10 Gb from a Gb NIC.

                                            I'm sorry but I can't find that in the thread but Intel X540-T2 (as reported in the first post) is a 10 GbE NIC.

                                            He said it in the line "If I try to pick 10Gbase-T on my WAN connection which is using a 1000base-T nic, the option of 10Gbase-T is not there.", about 6 months ago.

                                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
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