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      teknikalcrysis
      last edited by

      for reference to some firewall rules...I followed this guide in setting up my Paid TorGuard VPN service
      pfSense TorGuard Setup

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        teknikalcrysis
        last edited by teknikalcrysis

        I should also note that pfsense (172.16..) resides behind another router (192.168..)

        I can post screen shots of firewall rules if needed

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        • DerelictD
          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
          last edited by

          Are you accepting a default route from the VPN service?

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            teknikalcrysis
            last edited by teknikalcrysis

            I have a rule on my lan_bridge to send all traffic to the TorGuard gateway ...when Torguard is VPN client is enabled, all traffic routes through the VPN service and when the VPN service has been disabled traffic routes directly to the WAN as expected...

            The only other thing I configured for the VPN service was the NAT rules as defined in the guide I posted above

            If that's not what you mean, please explain

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by

              Do you have Don't pull routes checked in your VPN client config?

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                teknikalcrysis
                last edited by

                No...I have that option Unchecked

                @derelict said in Dynamic DNS gets cached IP as VPN client IP:

                Do you have Don't pull routes checked in your VPN client config?

                0_1528824804968_vpn1.png

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                • DerelictD
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by

                  Right. That means they are giving you a default route. That likely means your dyndns request is going that way too.

                  If you are policy routing traffic out the VPN by setting gateways on inside interface rules, try checking that box and seeing if dyndns now does the right thing.

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                    teknikalcrysis
                    last edited by

                    Okay, I have CHECKED that option

                    0_1528830136019_fixed ip.png

                    However, after Checking that box, I now have a DNS leak

                    0_1528830210281_leak.png

                    If I leave the box UNCHECKED, this is the DNS test result

                    0_1528830703252_No_leak.png

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                      teknikalcrysis
                      last edited by

                      Here are some related settings
                      0_1528831085547_dns_setup.png

                      LAN Rules related to TorGuard
                      0_1528831141206_Lan rules.png

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                        teknikalcrysis
                        last edited by

                        forgot to post the (unbound) DNS Resolver settings
                        0_1528832591911_resolver settings.png

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                        • DerelictD
                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                          last edited by

                          Set your VPN clients to use outside DNS servers instead of the DNS resolver on the local firewall.

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                            teknikalcrysis @Derelict
                            last edited by teknikalcrysis

                            @derelict You'll have to excuse my ignorance LBVS
                            How do I do that?

                            I thought I was accomplishing that in the General System Settings by providing a DNS server tagged to the TorGuard VPN gateway

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                            • DerelictD
                              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                              last edited by

                              Nope. Set them in the DHCP server most likely, else static on the hosts.

                              The DHCP server will automatically give hosts the interface address if DNS servers are not specified.

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                                teknikalcrysis
                                last edited by

                                So your saying I should setup the TorGuard Interface as DHCP? as I have it set to none at the moment and it just sets a Virtual IP
                                0_1528833441467_torguard interface.png

                                0_1528833622836_openvpn.png

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                                • DerelictD
                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                  last edited by

                                  No. It's about what the CLIENTS that are routed over TorGuard are, themselves, configured to use as DNS servers. The DHCP configuration would be on that interface. If you only want to change certain hosts, use DHCP static mappings.

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                                    teknikalcrysis
                                    last edited by

                                    You're talking about here?
                                    0_1528835117652_here.png

                                    If I do that, then when the TorGuard Service has been disabled/disconnected, won't the PC constantly use those specific DNS servers rather than Only use the TorGuard Servers when the service is enabled and default to using Unbound DNS Resolver when TorGuard is disconnected like it performed before the "Do Not Pull Routes" option was checked?

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                                    • DerelictD
                                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                      last edited by Derelict

                                      Yup.

                                      You can't have everything.

                                      The most straightforward option I can think of is to run a DNS server off the firewall. That way DNS queries get policy routed like all other traffic.

                                      Some people set the OpenVPN interface as the outgoing interface in DNS Resolver but, when you do that, all DNS can go south when the VPN is not connected.

                                      If you're concerned about DNS leaks, policy route, and choose to use a DNS resolver on the firewall, there are compromises. If you otherwise choose to accept a default route from a VPN provider, there are compromises.

                                      Maybe someone else has a better idea.

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                                        gjaltemba @teknikalcrysis
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                                        @teknikalcrysis said in Dynamic DNS gets cached IP as VPN client IP:

                                        Here are some related settings
                                        0_1528831085547_dns_setup.png

                                        LAN Rules related to TorGuard
                                        0_1528831141206_Lan rules.png

                                        Have you tried a pass rule for source This Firewall(self) destination ?.ddns.net gateway WAN_DHCP

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                                        • DerelictD
                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                          last edited by Derelict

                                          It won't matter because the dyndns session doesn't arrive into LAN where it can be policy routed. It is sourced from the firewall itself.

                                          A dyndns client on the inside that updates that name and could be policy routed could perhaps solve the problem being seen when the VPN connection is active with def1 routes accepted.

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                                            gjaltemba @Derelict
                                            last edited by gjaltemba

                                            @derelict said in Dynamic DNS gets cached IP as VPN client IP:

                                            It won't matter because the dyndns session doesn't arrive into LAN where it can be policy routed. It is sourced from the firewall itself.

                                            A dyndns client on the inside that updates that name and could be policy routed could perhaps solve the problem being seen when the VPN connection is active with def1 routes accepted.

                                            Oops. How about outbound NAT on WAN interface source This Firewall(self) destination ?.ddns.net gateway WAN_DHCP?

                                            It may be simpler just to run ddns client on the outside edge router if it has one.

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