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    Simple VLAN for PFSense + Unifi AP-AC-LR

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    • NogBadTheBadN
      NogBadTheBad
      last edited by

      In your case the AP will be doing the tagging of the packets coming from the guest Wi-Fi.

      If you do a packet capture using tcdpump on eth0 you'll see tagged and untagged packets.

      ssh admin@ap-1 'tcpdump -i eth0 src not 172.16.2.20 and dst not 172.16.2.20 -w -' > ~/capture.pcap

      Where 172.16.2.20 is the device i'm sshing from.

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      Andy

      1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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        BBCModelB @NogBadTheBad
        last edited by

        @nogbadthebad

        Ah, thats interesting, so I can actually view the tagged / untagged traffic - thanks for the info

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        • NogBadTheBadN
          NogBadTheBad @BBCModelB
          last edited by

          @bbcmodelb

          Yes you need to find a packet with a vlan id in and add it as a column or create a new column and set it as follows:-

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          Andy

          1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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          • JKnottJ
            JKnott @BBCModelB
            last edited by JKnott

            @bbcmodelb said in Simple VLAN for PFSense + Unifi AP-AC-LR:

            @nogbadthebad

            Ah, thats interesting, so I can actually view the tagged / untagged traffic - thanks for the info

            Yep, Wireshark is a very useful tool for understanding network issues. For example, by looking at that capture, you can see it's an Ethernet II (also known as DIX) frame, which is 1 of 2 types, the other being IEEE 802.3. The only significant difference between them is the Ethertype/length field I mentioned. If it's 1500 or less, it's the size of the data carried by the frame. If 1536 or more, it's Ethertype, which describes the payload type. In this example, a VLAN frame. When you have Wireshark running, you can expand the fields to see the actual contents. If 802.3 length, then it imposes a hard limit of 1500 bytes, which many incorrectly assume to be the maximum IP MTU. However, IP uses Ethernet II, which has no length limit and, in fact, up to 65K MTU is supported, provided layer 2 supports it. Way back in the dark ages, the hardware limited the frame size to 1518 bytes, which meant there wasn't room for both a VLAN tag and full 1500 byte MTU. However, that limit was removed 20 years ago with frame expansion, so no modern hardware should have a problem with VLAN tags.

            BTW, pfSense includes "Packet Capture", which can be used to capture frames. However, it doesn't display as much as Wireshark, so you may want to capture with Packet Capture and then download the capture to view with Wireshark.

            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
            UniFi AC-Lite access point

            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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              BBCModelB
              last edited by

              Hmmm, I've implemented a solution using unmanaged switches, and connected my smartphone to the new GUEST wifi, where the pfsense box IS giving it the correct IP address 10.0.0.x, but when I try to access a website, nothings appearing almost as if its a firewall / nat issue?

              pfSense box config

              interfaces > interfaces assignments > vlans > add >
              tag, 2
              parent interface, em3 (lan)
              priority, 0

              interfaces > interfaces assignements > add >
              description, GUEST
              ipv4 config, static
              ipv4 addr, 10.0.0.1
              upstream gateway, none

              firewall > nat > outbound > add
              10.0.0.0 / 24
              src * dest *
              Nat address, Wan Address

              firewall > rules > add
              source, GUEST address
              dest *
              gateway WAN_DHCP
              pass

              services > DHCP server > GUEST
              scope 10.0.0.10 - 10.0.0.254

              Anything I've missed?

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                BBCModelB @BBCModelB
                last edited by BBCModelB

                FOUND IT!!!

                firewall > rules > add
                source, GUEST address
                dest *
                gateway WAN_DHCP
                pass

                should be

                firewall > rules > add
                source, GUEST net
                dest *
                gateway WAN_DHCP
                pass

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                  BBCModelB
                  last edited by

                  Thanks for all your help guys, you were great!

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                  • JKnottJ
                    JKnott @BBCModelB
                    last edited by

                    @bbcmodelb said in Simple VLAN for PFSense + Unifi AP-AC-LR:

                    Thanks for all your help guys, you were great!

                    You may want to fire up Wireshark or Packet capture, so that you can see all the things you learned in action. A couple of years ago, I bought a cheap managed switch, configured for port mirroring, so that I could watch any connection. I could, for example, insert it between the AP and switch or pfSense and switch.

                    PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                    i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                    UniFi AC-Lite access point

                    I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                    • NogBadTheBadN
                      NogBadTheBad
                      last edited by NogBadTheBad

                      You may also want to put a block above your pass rule to block the home network access from the guest network , something like :-

                      0_1530552748613_Untitled.jpeg

                      g_ip_local is an alias that contains IPv4 & IPv6 local subnets.

                      Andy

                      1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                        BBCModelB @JKnott
                        last edited by

                        @jknott said in Simple VLAN for PFSense + Unifi AP-AC-LR:

                        @bbcmodelb said in Simple VLAN for PFSense + Unifi AP-AC-LR:

                        Thanks for all your help guys, you were great!

                        You may want to fire up Wireshark or Packet capture, so that you can see all the things you learned in action. A couple of years ago, I bought a cheap managed switch, configured for port mirroring, so that I could watch any connection. I could, for example, insert it between the AP and switch or pfSense and switch.

                        Yes, I'll do that

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                          BBCModelB @NogBadTheBad
                          last edited by

                          @nogbadthebad said in Simple VLAN for PFSense + Unifi AP-AC-LR:

                          You may also want to put a block above your pass rule to block the home network access from the guest network , something like :-

                          0_1530552748613_Untitled.jpeg

                          g_ip_local is an alias that contains IPv4 & IPv6 local subnets.

                          Will do

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