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    NTP server remain in Soliciting pool server

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz

      Ok I have sniff running for your IP on my wan udp 123... Set pfsense to use this IP and see if you get any responses or not.. Let me know after its been running a few minutes and I will stop the sniff and take a look

      BTW: please do not post my full public IP its 64.53.x.x

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        juniper
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        Ok, some ntp packet sent to your ntp but without any response.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by

          No nothing captured.. I never got those packets.

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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            Not from that IP you say is your public IP. You sure pfsense is sending them out the right hole??

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              Since it seems now via chat you do have VIPs... How about you post your outbound nats so we can figure out what IP pfsense would use vs your clients when talking outbound.

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                juniper
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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  There are no hybrid rules above that? Or below that? From those your clients and pfsense itself would be using whatever the IP of ADSL20PUB is... Do you have other connections? What interfaces do you have your ntp set to use in the ntp setup page?

                  Do you have any port forwards setup on your client interfaces for ntp? (udp 123)

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                    juniper
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                    @johnpoz said in NTP server remain in Soliciting pool server:

                    There are no hybrid rules above that? Or below that?

                    No only Automatic outbound NAT rule generation.

                    Do you have other connections?

                    No, only ADSL20PUB, WAN is disabled

                    What interfaces do you have your ntp set to use in the ntp setup page?

                    all interfaces except ADSL20PUB

                    Do you have any port forwards setup on your client interfaces for ntp? (udp 123)

                    No, only 1:1 nat on virtual IP

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by johnpoz

                      well makes no sense at all then dude... I suggest you sniff on this adsl20pub interface with pfsense and clients doing ntp to same server so we can try and figure out what is going on.

                      From your outbound nat it would not be possible for your clients to be using any other IP other than adsl20pub interface. So how is it exactly you have VIPs setup?? Are they for inbound only traffic?

                      What I can tel you is I never saw an traffic from your IP o 123 UDP.. So if I never got it - its impossible for me to answer.

                      So your dong 1:1 nat, but you outbound nat to your adsl20pub... So if your on a client and you go to whatsmyip you see the adsl20pub IP??

                      Are you doing a 1:1 nat with this .234 IP?

                      Make sure your client that is working behind is pointing to a different ntp server than pfsense when you do your sniff so we can be sure of which traffic is what in the sniff.

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                        juniper
                        last edited by

                        @johnpoz said in NTP server remain in Soliciting pool server:

                        well makes no sense at all then dude...

                        yes...doesn't has sense at all.

                        So how is it exactly you have VIPs setup?? Are they for inbound only traffic?

                        only 3 web server (one for each VIP configured) with 80, 443 and 8080 port open

                        So your dong 1:1 nat, but you outbound nat to your adsl20pub... So if your on a client and you go to whatsmyip you see the adsl20pub IP?

                        my 1:1 natted server show VIP assigned on whatsmyip

                        normal client (as ntp server) show ADSL20PUB main address

                        juniper@kirk:~$ curl ipinfo.io/ip
                        80.19.236.234
                        
                        
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                          juniper
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                          pfsense box show:

                          [2.4.3-RELEASE][admin@pfsense.mkdevice.it]/root: curl ipinfo.io/ip
                          80.19.236.234
                          
                          
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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                            you do understand that ntp is going to bind to one of the IPs your listening on and use that for its queries right.. So that could be different when it goes outbound.. But if you have auto outbound nat then its should be the your adsl20pub IP.

                            Set your ntp server to use say 1.2.3.4 (some public ntp server) grab listing for your country on the ntp site. Set your client to use different public ntp server say 4.5.6.7... Then sniff on your adsl20pub interface for udp 123 and we should see these queries go out. We can then look at them in wireshark and try and figure out why queries pfsense is doing is not getting answered. My IP never saw queries from that 80.19.236.234 address that is for sure. And I get and answer 100's of ntp queries every few minutes My IP is member of ntp pool.

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                              juniper
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                              attached two trace, one of my ntp local server and one of pfsense box with the same server configured.

                              1_1531170243257_pfsense.pcap 0_1531170243256_local.pcap

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