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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      Does this tiny computer run freebsd? If not then its not going to run pfsense - and wouldn't matter if freebsd supports any usb nics.

      What is this tiny computer?

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      • GertjanG
        Gertjan
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        "Linux" is not "FreeBSD"

        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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          majorpaynedof @johnpoz
          last edited by majorpaynedof

          @johnpoz the Tiny computer is a Lenovo m710q running a 7th gen i5 processor and I have never tried to run FreeBSD on it. I do also have a Hades Canyon which is dual NIC but i'd rather not use that as a 8th gen i7 would be way overkill if i understand correctly. I was hoping to not have to buy a Internal NIC for a spare Desktop that I have as the tiny is a lower power draw. When I plug the Startech adapter the pfsense detects it but will not assign it a IP (192.168.1.1). I can go to 1) assign adapters and it shows as ue0 and Up. I do remember that when I plugged it in that is said ASIX and I think 88179 (memory is vague on the numbers)

          @gertjan said in USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet:

          "Linux" is not "FreeBSD"

          I understand that Linux and Unix are 2 different OS, this is why I need help or to be shown how to locate the information i need. I'm not some chump begging for help. I'm attempting to learn how to fend for myself, but i have hit a roadblock and requesting a little help in learning.

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          • GrimsonG
            Grimson Banned
            last edited by Grimson

            If you have only one NIC then use a managed switch and VLANs, this will be more stable than an USB adapter and even performance wise it is likely better.

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              majorpaynedof @Grimson
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              @grimson I've never setup with a VLAN on my own before so i'm a little hesitant. Since I currently have gigabit speeds to my house, If I did the suggestion you are making my internet speeds to be cut in half correct due to the throughput of both incoming and outgoing traffic over the same port.

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                VAMike
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                freebsd has bad usb nic support. you aren't going to see stable gigabit performance with this setup. if you want to use pfsense for this you'll need to obtain a computer with at least two intel nics (freebsd doesn't support other nics well, either, which will be an issue with a gigabit connection).

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                • GrimsonG
                  Grimson Banned
                  last edited by Grimson

                  @majorpaynedof said in USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet:

                  Lenovo m710q

                  That one has a Realtek NIC, so your unlikely to get gigabit speed with pfSense on it anyway. Use the Hades Canyon with it's Intel NICs if you want to enjoy pfSense. If you think it's overpowered virtualise pfSense and use it for other things as well.

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                    majorpaynedof @Grimson
                    last edited by majorpaynedof

                    @grimson isn't the hades canyon a bit overkill? I mean 16gb ram, 1 tb m.2 and a 8807G i7... i guess i would never need to worry about over taxing it.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @majorpaynedof
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                      @majorpaynedof said in USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet:

                      I understand that Linux and Unix are 2 different OS

                      Neither are BSD ;) Pfsense runs on FreeBSD.. Not linux, not Unix heheheeheh

                      Sorry just couldn't help myself..

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                      • GrimsonG
                        Grimson Banned @majorpaynedof
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                        @majorpaynedof said in USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet:

                        @grimson isn't the hades canyon a bit overkill? I mean 16gb ram, 1 tb m.2 and a 8807G i7... i guess i would never need to worry about over taxing it.

                        Is your ISP using PPPoE, do you intend to use VPNs, IPS/IDS or any other heavy packages? Then you might be surprised how much some stuff can tax a CPU on gigabit connections. And you can still virtualise stuff, as I have written above.

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                          majorpaynedof @Grimson
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                          @grimson, No My ISP does not use PPOPE, I'm on Cox Gigablast and have the ONT on the wall. My current Netgeat 6300V2 does not have any authentication methods for me to receive internet. I can directly plug in a computer to the ONT and recieve internet access. I honestly do not know what I plan on using yet. Since this is my home connection. I do work at home a few days of the month so i would need to make sure that the vpn anyconnect from cisco works properly but i can always test that. I've google top X pfsense modules and just did some light reading

                          @johnpoz said in USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet:

                          @majorpaynedof said in USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet:

                          I understand that Linux and Unix are 2 different OS

                          Neither are BSD ;) Pfsense runs on FreeBSD.. Not linux, not Unix heheheeheh

                          Sorry just couldn't help myself..

                          hmm I always though that FreeBSD was based off of Unix. Nothing to be sorry about.

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            linux and bsd both are derived from unix and are unix-like OSes ;) Lets call them siblings/cousins with a unix being common to both of them in their history.

                            Here is a family tree ;) Linux is a clone of Unix and is "unix-like" But BSD is not Unix.. They share history is all.

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                              majorpaynedof @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz said in USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet:

                              linux and bsd both are derived from unix and are unix-like OSes ;) Lets call them siblings/cousins with a unix being common to both of them in their history.

                              Here is a family tree ;) Linux is a clone of Unix and is "unix-like" But BSD is not Unix.. They share history is all.

                              alt text

                              the Beauty of open source :)

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Since you have that hardware already I would suggest you try it and see.

                                Configuring VLANs to get 2 (or more) interfaces is not that difficult and I would consider it far preferable to using a USB NIC.

                                That said some people do use USB NICs without issue though I very much doubt you would see full Gigabit line rate through it.

                                Steve

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                                  majorpaynedof
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                                  using the hades canyon, 4% cpu load. whats the best way to test throughput

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                                    VAMike
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                                    yes, the hades canyon is ridiculous overkill and spec'd with hardware that makes no sense in a firewall. but, the other machine just isn't right for a gigabit pfsense firewall. if you want full bandwidth it probably makes sense to get another machine with more sensible specs and use the hades canyon for its intended purpose.

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                                      majorpaynedof @VAMike
                                      last edited by majorpaynedof

                                      @vamike Honestly the Hades canyon was a impulse buy along with a Lenovo X1 Carbon i7 that i'm regretting. Not due to money just ... what am I going to do with them lol. #firstworldproblems

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Might as well use it as a firewall while you think of something better then. 😉

                                        Steve

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                                        • occamsrazorO
                                          occamsrazor
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                                          Does the Hades Canyon have Intel NICs or something else? Not planning to get one, but just curious.....

                                          pfSense CE on Qotom Q355G4 8GB RAM/60GB SSD
                                          Ubiquiti Unifi wired and wireless network, APC UPSs
                                          Mac OSX and IOS devices, QNAP NAS

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                                            majorpaynedof @occamsrazor
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                                            The Hades Canyon has 2 intel Nic's 1 is a i219-lm the other i210-at. I can tell you at the time of writing this my system under full download speeds running suricata never goes above 10% CPU. This is a beast

                                            @occamsrazor said in USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet:

                                            Does the Hades Canyon have Intel NICs or something else? Not planning to get one, but just curious.....

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