Multiple Switches cross connect or each port into pfsense box
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check out my edit curious on the switches you got.. Guessing you got POE, but they do not stack and they are only L2 right.. From that pricepoint the sg500x from cisco prob better small business choice.
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So they are the non POE 48 Port switches. They are on Amazon here. I was just going to use injectors to power the APs, (just two of them) but now I might just pickup a 16 port Unifi with POE as the switch to attach everything together. I am kinda stuck using Unifi due to the customer mandating them. Like I said before I talked them out of the USG-PRO-4 which I have read very bad reviews on, and understand that the interface is very hard to use, and can not hit GB speeds all the time. I want to use pfsense because it has a large following and I know I can find answers if I have questions (like today)
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Oh if there is only 2 of them - then sure you could just use the injectors. But yeah since your getting smaller switch - sure go with POE for your AP..
What you going to the run the controller on? One of the cloud keys from unifi?
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@johnpoz said in Multiple Switches cross connect or each port into pfsense box:
What you going to the run the controller on? One of the cloud keys from unifi?
Yep the cloud key is on order already. I have never used that device before but it looks pretty easy, to setup, and I have plans for VLAN setup for the wifi networks.
The location is not very big square footage wise, about 10000 sqft open space with some offices and cubicles, I was going to place one AP on one side and one on the other. My sub contractor is working on the wiring now that is the largest part of the job (233 drops). Like I said much larger then the normal 10 to 20 drops I do myself. I had to sub-contract it out.
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Have fun! When project suppose to be complete? Reach out to sales if you have any questions on the 3100.. This is less than your budget and should be fine..
Or post question in the Official hardware section.. I have a 3100, but just do not have the connection to stress it up to gig.. I know for sure the sg4860 can do it, since it doesn't break a sweat on my 500mbps connection and my buddy has his on a gig and has no problem with that..
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I am watching some reviews on it now (Youtube), The project should be done Sept 15, so I need the HW installed about 3 days before so I can be assured everything is configured and ready to go once they start moving into this office. Thanks again for all your help!!
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Sounds like you are already committed to the UniFi APs, but for a small network like that, the HPE OfficeConnect OC20 is a really nice product.
https://www.hpe.com/us/en/product-catalog/networking/networking-wireless/pip.hpe-officeconnect-oc20-802dot11ac-series-access-points.1010099011.html
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Thanks for the recommendation, I will keep this on my list of stuff I can use. With a little luck I might be some more bigger clients like this.
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Where are you located?
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@coreybrett said in Multiple Switches cross connect or each port into pfsense box:
Where are you located?
I am in Colorado, Denver metro area. I run a very small computer company called SnowbeePC
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@manwdaplan said in Multiple Switches cross connect or each port into pfsense box:
So they are the non POE 48 Port switches. They are on Amazon here. I was just going to use injectors to power the APs, (just two of them) but now I might just pickup a 16 port Unifi with POE as the switch to attach everything together. I am kinda stuck using Unifi due to the customer mandating them. Like I said before I talked them out of the USG-PRO-4 which I have read very bad reviews on, and understand that the interface is very hard to use, and can not hit GB speeds all the time. I want to use pfsense because it has a large following and I know I can find answers if I have questions (like today)
Look at a midspan unit rather than POE injectors, if you aren’t looking at POE switches, most of the midspan units enable power to be switched off remotely.
Makes things much easier if you need to power cycle access-points.
I’d look at stacked switches if I was doing this myself.
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You have 200 seats in a 100m radius? OK 10000 sqft is not that big. I would certainly check that no copper runs are more than 100m though.
I would certainly stack the switches if possible. Personally I would not even consider a closet of 5 x 48-port switches that weren't stacked.
The SG-3100 is a great product and will probably move the traffic, but it is really more geared to the SOHO market. I'd probably look at a pair of XG-1537s instead. Probably LACP to the switch stack.
I would also do a wifi survey. 200 seats with 2 APs sounds a little dense. Figure at least a phone for everyone. That's 100 associations for each AP/Radio. I know brands (Ruckus) that can do that with one radio tied behind their backs. Not sure about the Unifi gear. Never seen a dense deployment first-hand. Something like NetSpot for the Mac can get you some pretty effective, if rudimentary, measurements of the wifi propagation through that particular construction. You'll have to estimate it for all the 160-pound bags of mostly-water that will be walking around. Ceiling mounting makes this a lot easier to predict. Survey for 5GHz. 2.4 GHz will propagate further.
200 Seats. How many thousands of dollars per hour do you/they lose if it goes down?
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https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/unifi/UniFi_UAP-AC-HD_DS.pdf
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@nogbadthebad said in Multiple Switches cross connect or each port into pfsense box:
https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/unifi/UniFi_UAP-AC-HD_DS.pdf
I'd personally have to see it to believe it.
2 APs still sounds like not enough for that space even if they can handle that association density.
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@derelict said in Multiple Switches cross connect or each port into pfsense box:
@nogbadthebad said in Multiple Switches cross connect or each port into pfsense box:
https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/unifi/UniFi_UAP-AC-HD_DS.pdf
I'd personally have to see it to believe it.
2 APs still sounds like not enough for that space even if they can handle that association density.
Agreed, also depends on the shape of the building, is it square or rectangular.
If you have the floor plans, I’ve got a copy of Aruba Visual RF I could do a quick predictive plan using a standard Aruba AP with integrated antennas.
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@nogbadthebad said in Multiple Switches cross connect or each port into pfsense box:
@derelict said in Multiple Switches cross connect or each port into pfsense box:
@nogbadthebad said in Multiple Switches cross connect or each port into pfsense box:
https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/unifi/UniFi_UAP-AC-HD_DS.pdf
I'd personally have to see it to believe it.
2 APs still sounds like not enough for that space even if they can handle that association density.
Agreed, also depends on the shape of the building, is it square or rectangular.
If you have the floor plans, I’ve got a copy of Aruba Visual RF I could do a quick predictive plan using a standard Aruba AP with integrated antennas.
I will get you a floor plan later tonight when I am at my desk, thank you this will be very helpful
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@manwdaplan said in Multiple Switches cross connect or each port into pfsense box:
@nogbadthebad said in Multiple Switches cross connect or each port into pfsense box:
@derelict said in Multiple Switches cross connect or each port into pfsense box:
@nogbadthebad said in Multiple Switches cross connect or each port into pfsense box:
https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/unifi/UniFi_UAP-AC-HD_DS.pdf
I'd personally have to see it to believe it.
2 APs still sounds like not enough for that space even if they can handle that association density.
Agreed, also depends on the shape of the building, is it square or rectangular.
If you have the floor plans, I’ve got a copy of Aruba Visual RF I could do a quick predictive plan using a standard Aruba AP with integrated antennas.
I will get you a floor plan later tonight when I am at my desk, thank you this will be very helpful
Draw on the plan where you think the APs are going, also can you dimension the longest side of the building.
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@derelict said in Multiple Switches cross connect or each port into pfsense box:
Not sure about the Unifi gear.
Bit off topic but did you see their new HIGH Density stuff
https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap-xg/This one is for Stadiums and such
https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-wifi-basestation-xg/200 Seats. How many thousands of dollars per hour do you/they lose if it goes down?
This is such a good point!!! But they have 500$ budget for router.. Should be HA and multiple lines.. Everything in the cloud remember.. What happens when that 1 isp is offline?
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https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Stories/12-BaseStationXGs-provide-exceptional-service-at-high-density/cns-p/2420311
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Thanks... They do look sweet - nice to see a real world example.. I will have to look deployment story on the smaller XG model.. Might be something to look at for this posters deployment... But sounds like they have a real limited budget to be honest.. The switches are not what I would of used that is for sure - I have no experience with the unifi switches - but if you can not stack them they don't seem to be good fit for such a deployment.
