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    My guide to installing pfSense on Watchguard x750e

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      djskytv
      last edited by

      hi i banging my head on the wall .
      i'm trying to install pfsense on the cf card . its timing out searching for ata after starting the install process.
      can i install on a hdd first on a laptop the install the hdd in the firebox??
      any help appreciated thank you

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        You do not normally 'install' to a CF card. Instead you write the Nano image to it directly with a bit-for-bit writer like Win32 Disk Imager. Though recently I have found etcher to be my tool of choice in any OS. (https://etcher.io/)

        Yes you can install to a PATA hard drive in a laptop (if you have one that old) and transfer it. I have done that a number of times. You may have to set the drive path though on first boot because it might be different to the laptop.
        https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Booting_from_HD_3

        Steve

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          numberer6
          last edited by

          Question for anyone who has successfully installed pfSense on their x750e. Do you have a backup for the original Watchguard x750e BIOS? I want to install that BIOS for a special project. The x750e I bought on eBay had pfSense B8 installed on it already.

          Things I've learned:

          1. Using a 64MB CF with the FreeDOSBios2.img works fine
          2. I successfully backed up the BIOS on my x750e (ver B8)
          3. As a test, I installed ver B7, that worked
          4. I was able to restore the backup ver B8 BIOS image
          5. This BIOS backup image does not install: https://sites.google.com/site/pfsensefirebox/home/biosbkup.bin

          I'm hopeful once I get a good Watchguard BIOS image, I'll be able to install that on this system.

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            DeLorean
            last edited by

            The original Watchguard Bios doesn't support big CF cards like 4Gb and bigger,
            besides converting the x750e back to the Watchguard OS (Fireware), there isn't any profit
            to use the original Bios.

            Grtz
            DeLorean

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              diesel678
              last edited by

              Has anyone got the latest pfsense 2.4.1 working on X750e? thanks

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                DeLorean
                last edited by

                @diesel678:

                Has anyone got the latest pfsense 2.4.1 working on X750e? thanks

                No, because since version 2.4 there is no 32Bit version available.
                The x750e can run only 32Bit version of pfSense.
                The latest version for the x750e is 2.3.5

                Best regards
                DeLorean

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                  CuriousG
                  last edited by

                  @DeLorean:

                  @diesel678:

                  Has anyone got the latest pfsense 2.4.1 working on X750e? thanks

                  No, because since version 2.4 there is no 32Bit version available.
                  The x750e can run only 32Bit version of pfSense.
                  The latest version for the x750e is 2.3.5

                  Best regards
                  DeLorean

                  Will Celeron M 5xx series CPU work on X-Core-e?

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                    DeLorean
                    last edited by

                    @CuriousG:

                    Will Celeron M 5xx series CPU work on X-Core-e?

                    No, a Celeron M 5xx is socket BGA479
                    A Watchguard X Core-E series use a socket mPGA478C

                    For a X Core-E series, i always used a Intel Pentium M 760 @ 2Ghz 533Mhz with Dothan Core.
                    The motherboard of this type firewall only support cpu's with a Banias or Dothan core.
                    After replacing the cpu, you must set the 2 sets of dip switches from Banias setting to Dothan,
                    oftherwise the 2Ghz cpu will run as a 1.7Ghz due wrong multiplier setting.

                    Grtz
                    DeLorean

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                      GavinSlayer
                      last edited by

                      Hello,

                      So I am thinking of loading pfSense on an X750e that I inherited. Two questions:

                      1. If I upgrade the processor to the Pentium M 760 @ 2Ghz 533Mhz Dothan Core, will I be able to load the latest version of pfSense?

                      2. Will this device support loading pfSense with an SSD vs. the Compact Flash?

                      Thank You!

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                      • chpalmerC
                        chpalmer @GavinSlayer
                        last edited by

                        @gavinslayer

                        You can run 2.3.5 on it but not any of the later versions. These boxes are pretty much done at this point.

                        Support for 2.3 branch is going away.

                        Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                        Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                        • GertjanG
                          Gertjan
                          last edited by

                          30 days and counting : pfSense version 2.3 End of Life approaching

                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Yes, those boxes are pretty much for fun or experimenting only now.
                            If you do go ahead you might want to choose one of the 400MHz FSB Pentium M CPUs as they are supported directly by powerd so you get proper frequency scaling.

                            Steve

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                              maevoureik
                              last edited by maevoureik

                              I've been trying to run "awdflash" to both backup and also flash x750eb7.bin and xebios_81.bin, but it doesn't appear that awdflash is working at all. After numerous attempts and boots, I'm still seeing nothing but "WG Bios v1.3" on the LCD screen of my XTM800series.

                              Video Link

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                The XTM800 is not an X-Core-e model, it's a much later device. If that really is the hardware you're running then flashing that bios to it successfully would almost certainly brick it!
                                The XTM800 BIOS is not locked though so BIOS flashing is not required on those.

                                What device do you actually have there?

                                Steve

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                                  maevoureik @stephenw10
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10 XTM850 hardware # SL8AE14 is the device I have. If BIOS is not locked, then why doesn't a CF card loaded with pfSense 2.5 (or 2.4.5) serial image boot up?

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by stephenw10

                                    There seems to be some problem with 2.5 (FreeBSD 12) on those boxes but you should still see something boot. And then fail.
                                    When I installed mine I used the internal VGA header to access to BIOS and force it to boot the installer but I believe it should be possible to boot the install image from CF.
                                    See: https://forum.netgate.com/post/969046

                                    What image exactly are you using?

                                    You should continue this there or in the XTM800/1500 thread.

                                    Steve

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                                    • KyleBrownK
                                      KyleBrown
                                      last edited by

                                      A friend of mine has been following this guide but, at the moment, is getting this as an output. Any help would be appreciated.

                                      Screenshot_20220401-155131_Discord.jpg

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                                      • GertjanG
                                        Gertjan @KyleBrown
                                        last edited by

                                        @kylebrown

                                        That problem was solved last year.
                                        The solution was : switch the devices to 'on'.

                                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by stephenw10

                                          Um, yeah hard to see what you're showing there. Just the putty screens in the center?

                                          Both seem to be showing the same thing and on different com ports so I'd suggest neither is correct.

                                          What device are you installing to?

                                          What image are you using?

                                          How are are you trying to install it?

                                          A lot has changed since 2017....

                                          Steve

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                                          • GertjanG
                                            Gertjan @stephenw10
                                            last edited by

                                            @stephenw10 said in My guide to installing pfSense on Watchguard x750e:

                                            different com ports

                                            I see this :

                                            52e26d4a-ac08-44a2-9e93-bbf403d5ead5-image.png

                                            and you see comm ports ??

                                            edit : Oh wait, just zoomed into 400 % : I see comm ports .....

                                            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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