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      bpados
      last edited by

      All tunnel endpoints are pfsense and Async-Crypto is disabled on all of them by default. The tunnels have zero traffic on them.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Hmm,
        Do you see any errors in the IPSec log or System log?
        If you run packet captures on the IPSec interface and try to ping across the tunnel do you see that traffic?
        If not do you see it leaving on the WAN incorrectly?

        Steve

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          bpados
          last edited by

          I ran capture on both ipsec and wan. Wan at least shows some of the ipsec tunnel traffic between two endpoints but not traffic. Ipsec is just flat empty. I've never seen packet capture being completely empty.
          System logs show no errors for ipsec just a bunch of "activating new task" "nothing to initiate".
          Oh yeah so one of the time running packet capture ping came back with destination unreachable. Could this be NAT or routing related?

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            If the tunnel is up at phase 1 and phase 2 and the SAs show correctly for subnets you are trying to ping between the IPSec daemon should always grab that traffic.
            If it doesn't it would try to send it to the default gateway which is probably your WAN.
            The IPSec daemon can be by-passed if you have policy routing rules in place, with gateways defined.

            Steve

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              bpados
              last edited by

              We don't use policy routing rules as of yet - not on smaller appliances.

              WAN shows the echo request but it never makes it back to IPsec.

              FYI. As a temp measure I set up backup tunnels with openvpn that seems the easiest and quest solution. That works but I do prefer IPsec over Openvpn for static tunnels.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Hmm, you see the encrypted packets leaving the WAN but nothing on the IPSec interface?

                Or am I reading that wrong?

                Steve

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                  bpados
                  last edited by

                  There is no traffic on the IPSec interface but I do see the echo request on the WAN.

                  Steve, I have to assume you're the same fellow who helped me out a few times before netgate time. Then netgate took over and my support didn't get carried over to netgate at least that's what it seems. Anyways thank you for the attention now on this matter.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    I could be. 😉 Though I have only ever worked for Netgate doing pfSense support (while getting paid!).

                    If you're seeing the unencrypted ping request leaving the WAN then the IPSec daemon is not seeing that as interesting traffic.

                    Check in Status > IPSec on the SPDs tab that the traffic selectors are there covering the source and destinations you are pinging.

                    Steve

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                      bpados
                      last edited by

                      SPD tabs show both remote and local networks for inbound and outbound.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Hmm, can we see the output of ipsec statusall and the details of the ping that's failing?

                        Steve

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                          e066377
                          last edited by e066377

                          I have a similar problem with pfSense 2.4.4.

                          LAN interface stops routing traffic, tunnels stop working after some minutes or sometimes hours

                          I have multiple Phase 2 tunnels, if i restart a computer in local network or restart IPsec service multiple times and try to ping tunnel remote IP then tunnels start to get packets but after a while traffic stops again.

                          People had the same problem before : https://forum.netgate.com/topic/98893/pfsense-2-3-lan-interface-stops-routing-traffic-stops-working-after-2-or-3-day

                          And it was fixed with 2.3.1, i think it was a solution by disabling all but 1 CPU. May it be the same?

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            If it works at all on upgraded devices then you have a different issue. Please start a new thread to address that.

                            Steve

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                              bpados
                              last edited by

                              Sorry. Still having this issue I'll try to get some ipsec status printed out this week. It's been busy.
                              Thank you.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Just to confirm; the traffic counters on the phase 2 status shows 0 at both ends and in both directions?

                                Steve

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                                  bpados
                                  last edited by

                                  You just pointed out to something I never paid attention to.
                                  In lack of time I looked at one of the setups and Connection is established but phase to status is not available on the connection that's not working.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Ah, phase 1 comes up but not phase 2? Then check for a mismatch there. The IPSec logs should show an error.

                                    Steve

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                                      Markadaca
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                                      No intention of hijacking the thread.
                                      I'm using 2.4.4-RELEASE (amd64)
                                      built on Thu Sep 20 09:33:19 EDT 2018
                                      FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE-p3

                                      I create an ipSec tunnel with identical configuration of others created on a previous rev (2.4.3p1) and the tunnel itself establishes, but no traffic passes through. On the phase 2 items, they're configured in a fashion similar to the other working tunnels. One thing I noticed that was very strange. In Static -> IPsec -> SADs, the whole section on this 2.4.4 instance is EMPTY, but on the others, it's populated with two entries per phase 2 item.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        The SADs will only appear once the tunnel is up. The SPDs should be be there whether it is up or not though.

                                        If you see no SADs it's not establishing. Check the ipsec logs.

                                        Steve

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                                          Markadaca
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                                          con2000: #3 toOffice pu.bl.ic.ip 10.xx.xx.xx NAT-T re.mo.te.ip re.mo.te.ip IKEv2
                                          initiator 23725 seconds (06:35:25) AES_CBC
                                          HMAC_SHA1_96
                                          PRF_HMAC_SHA1
                                          MODP_1024 ESTABLISHED
                                          4026 seconds (01:07:06) ago

                                          Status shows as "ESTABLISHED" for the main tunnel.

                                          log snippet:
                                          Nov 8 18:28:26 charon 09[NET] <con2000|3> received packet: from re.mo.te.ip[4500] to 10.xx.xx.1[4500] (76 bytes)
                                          Nov 8 18:28:26 charon 09[ENC] <con2000|3> parsed INFORMATIONAL request 252 [ ]
                                          Nov 8 18:28:26 charon 09[ENC] <con2000|3> generating INFORMATIONAL response 252 [ ]
                                          Nov 8 18:28:26 charon 09[NET] <con2000|3> sending packet: from 10.xx.xx.1[4500] to re.mo.te.ip[4500] (76 bytes)
                                          Nov 8 18:28:30 charon 12[CFG] vici client 574 connected
                                          Nov 8 18:28:30 charon 16[CFG] vici client 574 registered for: list-sa
                                          Nov 8 18:28:30 charon 16[CFG] vici client 574 requests: list-sas
                                          Nov 8 18:28:30 charon 16[CFG] vici client 574 disconnected

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                                          • DerelictD
                                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                            last edited by

                                            You want to look for log messages detailing bringing up the ESP inner tunnels based on the traffic selectors.

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