pfSense 2.4.4 e2Guardian 5 SARG Rapor
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Çalışıyor. Lightsquid ile de çalışıyor.
Sarg için konsoldan önce,
e2guardian -Q
sonra da,
rm -f /var/log/e2guardian/access.log
komutunu çalıştır ve 1-2 dakika içersinde tekrar kontrol et. -
Öncelikle yardımınız için teşekkür ederim ancak hala aşağıda ki hatayı almaktayım. Rica etsem ayar veya benzeri bir şey paylaşabilir misiniz ?
SARG: SARG version: 2.3.11 Jan-14-2018
SARG: File "" not foundTeşekkür Ederim,
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Merhaba,
/usr/local/etc/sarg/sarg.conf dosya içeriğini aşağıdaki içerikle değiştirerek dener misiniz? Diagnostics>Edit File ile dosyayı açın ve içeriği tamamen silip aşağıdaki içeriği yapıştırıp kaydedin.# sarg.conf # # TAG: access_log file # Where is the access.log file # sarg -l file # access_log /var/log/e2guardian/access.log # TAG: graphs yes|no # Use graphics where is possible. # graph_days_bytes_bar_color blue|green|yellow|orange|brown|red # graphs yes graph_days_bytes_bar_color orange # TAG: graph_font # The full path to the TTF font file to use to create the graphs. It is required # if graphs is set to yes. # graph_font /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf # TAG: title # Especify the title for html page. # title "Squid User Access Reports" # TAG: font_face # Especify the font for html page. # font_face Tahoma,Verdana,Arial # TAG: header_color # Especify the header color # header_color darkblue # TAG: header_bgcolor # Especify the header bgcolor # header_bgcolor blanchedalmond # TAG: font_size # Especify the text font size # font_size 9px # TAG: header_font_size # Especify the header font size # #header_font_size 9px # TAG: title_font_size # Especify the title font size # #title_font_size 11px # TAG: background_color # TAG: background_color # Html page background color # background_color white # TAG: text_color # Html page text color # text_color #000000 # TAG: text_bgcolor # Html page text background color # text_bgcolor lavender # TAG: title_color # Html page title color # title_color green # TAG: logo_image # Html page logo. # #logo_image none # TAG: logo_text # Html page logo text. # #logo_text "" # TAG: logo_text_color # Html page logo texti color. # #logo_text_color #000000 # TAG: logo_image_size # Html page logo image size. # width height # #image_size 80 45 # TAG: background_image # Html page background image # #background_image none # TAG: password # User password file used by Squid authentication scheme # If used, generate reports just for that users. # #password none # TAG: temporary_dir # Temporary directory name for work files # sarg -w dir # temporary_dir /tmp # TAG: output_dir # The reports will be saved in that directory # sarg -o dir # #output_dir /var/www/html/squid-reports output_dir /home/nosred/www/html/reportes # TAG: output_email # Email address to send the reports. If you use this tag, no html reports will be generated. # sarg -e email # #output_email none # TAG: resolve_ip yes/no # Convert ip address to dns name # sarg -n #resolve_ip # TAG: user_ip yes/no # Use Ip Address instead userid in reports. # sarg -p user_ip no # TAG: topuser_sort_field field normal/reverse # Sort field for the Topuser Report. # Allowed fields: USER CONNECT BYTES TIME # topuser_sort_field BYTES reverse # TAG: user_sort_field field normal/reverse # Sort field for the User Report. # Allowed fields: SITE CONNECT BYTES TIME # user_sort_field BYTES reverse # TAG: exclude_users file # users within the file will be excluded from reports. # you can use indexonly to have only index.html file. # exclude_users /etc/sarg/exclude_users # TAG: exclude_hosts file # Hosts, domains or subnets will be excluded from reports. # # Eg.: 192.168.10.10 - exclude ip address only # 192.168.10.0/24 - exclude full C class # s1.acme.foo - exclude hostname only # *.acme.foo - exclude full domain name # exclude_hosts /etc/sarg/exclude_hosts # TAG: useragent_log file # useragent.log file patch to generate useragent report. # #useragent_log none # TAG: date_format # Date format in reports: e (European=dd/mm/yy), u (American=mm/dd/yy), w (Weekly=yy.ww) # date_format u # TAG: per_user_limit file MB # Saves userid on file if download exceed n MB. # This option allow you to disable user access if user exceed a download limit. # #per_user_limit none # TAG: lastlog n # How many reports files must be keept in reports directory. # The oldest report file will be automatically removed. # 0 - no limit. # lastlog 0 # TAG: remove_temp_files yes # Remove temporary files: geral, usuarios, top, periodo from root report directory. # remove_temp_files yes # TAG: index yes|no|only # Generate the main index.html. # only - generate only the main index.html # index yes # TAG: index_tree date|file # How to generate the index. # index_tree file # TAG: overwrite_report yes|no # yes - if report date already exist then will be overwrited. # no - if report date already exist then will be renamed to filename.n, filename.n+1 # overwrite_report yes # TAG: records_without_userid ignore|ip|everybody # What can I do with records without user id (no authentication) in access.log file ? # # ignore - This record will be ignored. # ip - Use ip address instead. (default) # everybody - Use "everybody" instead. # records_without_userid ip # TAG: use_comma no|yes # Use comma instead point in reports. # Eg.: use_comma yes => 23,450,110 # use_comma no => 23.450.110 # use_comma yes # TAG: mail_utility mail|mailx # Mail command to use to send reports via SMTP # mail_utility mailx # TAG: topsites_num n # How many sites in topsites report. # topsites_num 100 # TAG: topsites_sort_order CONNECT|BYTES A|D # Sort for topsites report, where A=Ascendent, D=Descendent # topsites_sort_order CONNECT D # TAG: index_sort_order A/D # Sort for index.html, where A=Ascendent, D=Descendent # index_sort_order D # TAG: exclude_codes file # Ignore records with these codes. Eg.: NONE/400 # Write one code per line. Lines starting with a # are ignored. # Only codes matching exactly one of the line is rejected. The # comparison is not case sensitive. # exclude_codes /etc/sarg/exclude_codes # TAG: replace_index string # Replace "index.html" in the main index file with this string # If null "index.html" is used # #replace_index <?php echo str_replace(".", "_", $REMOTE_ADDR); echo ".html"; ?> # TAG: max_elapsed milliseconds # If elapsed time is recorded in log is greater than max_elapsed use 0 for elapsed time. # Use 0 for no checking # max_elapsed 28800000 # 8 Hours # TAG: report_type type # What kind of reports to generate. # topusers - users, sites, times, bytes, connects, links to accessed sites, etc # topsites - site, connect and bytes report # sites_users - users and sites report # users_sites - accessed sites by the user report # date_time - bytes used per day and hour report # denied - denied sites with full URL report # auth_failures - autentication failures report # site_user_time_date - sites, dates, times and bytes report # downloads - downloads per user report # # Eg.: report_type topsites denied # #report_type topusers topsites sites_users users_sites date_time denied auth_failures site_user_time_date downloads report_type topusers topsites sites_users users_sites date_time denied auth_failures site_user_time_date downloads # TAG: usertab filename # You can change the "userid" or the "ip address" to be a real user name on the reports. # If resolve_ip is active, the ip address is resolved before being looked up into this # file. That is, if you want to map the ip address, be sure to set resolv_ip to no or # the resolved name will be looked into the file instead of the ip address. Note that # it can be used to resolve any ip address known to the dns and then map the unresolved # ip addresses to a name found in the usertab file. # Table syntax: # userid name or ip address name # Eg: # SirIsaac Isaac Newton # vinci Leonardo da Vinci # 192.168.10.1 Karol Wojtyla # # Each line must be terminated with '\n' # If usertab have value "ldap" (case ignoring), user names # will be taken from LDAP server. This method as approaches for reception # of usernames from Active Didectory # usertab /etc/sarg/usertab # TAG: LDAPHost hostname # FQDN or IP address of host with LDAP service or AD DC # default is '127.0.0.1' #LDAPHost 127.0.0.1 # TAG: LDAPPort port # LDAP service port number # default is '389' #LDAPPort 389 # TAG: LDAPBindDN CN=username,OU=group,DC=mydomain,DC=com # DN of LDAP user, who is authorized to read user's names from LDAP base # default is empty line #LDAPBindDN cn=proxy,dc=mydomain,dc=local # TAG: LDAPBindPW secret # Password of DN, who is authorized to read user's names from LDAP base # default is empty line #LDAPBindPW secret # TAG: LDAPBaseSearch OU=users,DC=mydomain,DC=com # LDAP search base # default is empty line #LDAPBaseSearch ou=users,dc=mydomain,dc=local # TAG: LDAPFilterSearch uid=%s # User search filter by user's logins in LDAP # First founded record will be used # %s - will be changed to userlogins from access.log file # filter string can have some tags '%s' # default value is 'uid=%s' #LDAPFilterSearch uid=%s # TAG: LDAPTargetAttr attributename # Name of the attribute containing a name of the user # default value is 'cn' #LDAPTargetAttr cn # TAG: long_url yes|no # If yes, the full url is showed in report. # If no, only the site will be showed # # YES option generate very big sort files and reports. # long_url no # TAG: date_time_by bytes|elap # Date/Time reports show the downloaded volume or the elapsed time or both. # date_time_by bytes # TAG: charset name # ISO 8859 is a full series of 10 standardized multilingual single-byte coded (8bit) # graphic character sets for writing in alphabetic languages # You can use the following charsets: # Latin1 - West European # Latin2 - East European # Latin3 - South European # Latin4 - North European # Cyrillic # Arabic # Greek # Hebrew # Latin5 - Turkish # Latin6 # Windows-1251 # Japan # Koi8-r # UTF-8 # charset UTF-8 # TAG: user_invalid_char "&/" # Records that contain invalid characters in userid will be ignored by Sarg. # #user_invalid_char "&/" # TAG: privacy yes|no # privacy_string "***.***.***.***" # privacy_string_color blue # In some countries the sysadm cannot see the visited sites by a restrictive law. # Using privacy yes the visited url will be changes by privacy_string and the link # will be removed from reports. # #privacy no #privacy_string "***.***.***.***" #privacy_string_color blue # TAG: include_users "user1:user2:...:usern" # Reports will be generated only for listed users. # #include_users none # TAG: exclude_string "string1:string2:...:stringn" # Records from access.log file that contain one of listed strings will be ignored. # #exclude_string none # TAG: show_successful_message yes|no # Shows "Successful report generated on dir" at end of process. # show_successful_message no # TAG: show_read_statistics yes|no # Shows some reading statistics. # show_read_statistics no # TAG: topuser_fields # Which fields must be in Topuser report. # topuser_fields NUM DATE_TIME USERID CONNECT BYTES %BYTES IN-CACHE-OUT USED_TIME MILISEC %TIME TOTAL AVERAGE # TAG: user_report_fields # Which fields must be in User report. # user_report_fields CONNECT BYTES %BYTES IN-CACHE-OUT USED_TIME MILISEC %TIME TOTAL AVERAGE # TAG: bytes_in_sites_users_report yes|no # Bytes field must be in Site & Users Report ? # #bytes_in_sites_users_report no # TAG: topuser_num n # How many users in topsites report. 0 = no limit # topuser_num 0 # TAG: datafile file # Save the report results in a file to populate some database # #datafile none # TAG: datafile_delimiter ";" # ascii character to use as a field separator in datafile # #datafile_delimiter ";" # TAG: datafile_fields all # Which data fields must be in datafile # user;date;time;url;connect;bytes;in_cache;out_cache;elapsed # #datafile_fields user;date;time;url;connect;bytes;in_cache;out_cache;elapsed # TAG: datafile_url ip|name # Saves the URL as ip or name in datafile # #datafile ip # TAG: weekdays # The weekdays to take account ( Sunday->0, Saturday->6 ) # Example: #weekdays 1-3,5 # Default: #weekdays 0-6 # TAG: hours # The hours to take account # Example: #hours 7-12,14,16,18-20 # Default: #hours 0-23 # TAG: dansguardian_conf file # DansGuardian.conf file path # Generate reports from DansGuardian logs. # Use 'none' to disable it. # dansguardian_conf /usr/dansguardian/dansguardian.conf # #dansguardian_conf none # TAG: dansguardian_filter_out_date on|off # This option replaces dansguardian_ignore_date whose name was not appropriate with respect to its action. # Note the change of parameter value compared with the old option. # 'off' use the record even if its date is outside of the range found in the input log file. # 'on' use the record only if its date is in the range found in the input log file. # #dansguardian_filter_out_date on # TAG: squidguard_conf file # path to squidGuard.conf file # Generate reports from SquidGuard logs. # Use 'none' to disable. # You can use sarg -L filename to use an alternate squidGuard log. # squidguard_conf /usr/local/squidGuard/squidGuard.conf # #squidguard_conf none # TAG: redirector_log file # the location of the web proxy redirector log such as one created by squidGuard or Rejik. The option # may be repeated up to 64 times to read multiple files. # If this option is specified, it takes precedence over squidguard_conf. # The command line option -L override this option. # #redirector_log /usr/local/squidGuard/var/logs/urls.log # TAG: redirector_filter_out_date on|off # This option replaces squidguard_ignore_date and redirector_ignore_date whose names were not # appropriate with respect to their action. # Note the change of parameter value compared with the old options. # 'off' use the record even if its date is outside of the range found in the input log file. # 'on' use the record only if its date is in the range found in the input log file. # #redirector_filter_out_date on # TAG: redirector_log_format # Format string for web proxy redirector logs. # This option was named squidguard_log_format before sarg 2.3. # REJIK #year#-#mon#-#day# #hour# #list#:#tmp# #ip# #user# #tmp#/#tmp#/#url#/#end# # SQUIDGUARD #year#-#mon#-#day# #hour# #tmp#/#list#/#tmp#/#tmp#/#url#/#tmp# #ip#/#tmp# #user# #end# #redirector_log_format #year#-#mon#-#day# #hour# #tmp#/#list#/#tmp#/#tmp#/#url#/#tmp# #ip#/#tmp# #user# #end# # TAG: show_sarg_info yes|no # shows sarg information and site path on each report bottom # #show_sarg_info yes # TAG: show_sarg_logo yes|no # shows sarg logo # #show_sarg_logo yes # TAG: parsed_output_log directory # Saves the processed log in a sarg format after parsing the squid log file. # This is a way to dump all of the data structures out, after parsing from # the logs (presumably this data will be much smaller than the log files themselves), # and pull them back in for later processing and merging with data from previous logs. # #parsed_output_log none # TAG: parsed_output_log_compress /bin/gzip|/usr/bin/bzip2|nocompress # Command to run to compress sarg parsed output log. It may contain # options (such as -f to overwrite existing target file). The name of # the file to compresse is provided at the end of this # command line. Don't forget to quote things appropriately. # #parsed_output_log_compress /bin/gzip # TAG: displayed_values bytes|abbreviation # how the values will be displayed in reports. # eg. bytes - 209.526 # abbreviation - 210K # #displayed_values bytes # Report limits # TAG: authfail_report_limit n # TAG: denied_report_limit n # TAG: siteusers_report_limit n # TAG: squidguard_report_limit n # TAG: user_report_limit n # TAG: dansguardian_report_limit n # TAG: download_report_limit n # report limits (lines). # '0' no limit # #authfail_report_limit 10 #denied_report_limit 10 #siteusers_report_limit 0 #squidguard_report_limit 10 #dansguardian_report_limit 10 #user_report_limit 10 #user_report_limit 50 # TAG: www_document_root dir # Where is your Web DocumentRoot # Sarg will create sarg-php directory with some PHP modules: # - sarg-squidguard-block.php - add urls from user reports to squidGuard DB # #www_document_root /var/www/html # TAG: block_it module_url # This tag allow you to pass urls from user reports to a cgi or php module, # to be blocked by some Squid acl # # Eg.: block_it /sarg-php/sarg-block-it.php # sarg-block-it is a php that will append a url to a flat file. # You must change /var/www/html/sarg-php/sarg-block-it to point to your file # in $filename variable, and chown to a httpd owner. # # sarg will pass http://module_url?url=url # #block_it none # TAG: external_css_file path # Provide the path to an external css file to link into the HTML reports instead of # the inline css written by sarg when this option is not set. # # In versions prior to 2.3, this used to be an absolute file name to # a file to include verbatim in each HTML page but, as it takes a lot of # space, version 2.3 switched to a link to an external css file. # Therefore, this option must contain the HTTP server path on which a client # browser may find the css file. # # Sarg use theses style classes: # .logo logo class # .info sarg information class, align=center # .title_c title class, align=center # .header_c header class, align:center # .header_l header class, align:left # .header_r header class, align:right # .text text class, align:right # .data table text class, align:right # .data2 table text class, align:left # .data3 table text class, align:center # .link link class # # Sarg can be instructed to output the internal css it inline # into the reports with this command: # # sarg --css # # You can redirect the output to a file of your choice and edit # it to your liking. # #external_css_file none # TAG: user_authentication yes|no # Allow user authentication in User Reports using .htaccess # Parameters: # AuthUserTemplateFile - The template to use to create the # .htaccess file. In the template, %u is replaced by the # user's ID for which the report is generated. The path of the # template is relative to the directory containing sarg # configuration file. # # user_authentication no # AuthUserTemplateFile sarg_htaccess # TAG: download_suffix "suffix,suffix,...,suffix" # file suffix to be considered as "download" in Download report. # Use 'none' to disable. # download_suffix "zip,arj,bzip,gz,ace,doc,iso,adt,bin,cab,com,dot,drv$,lha,lzh,mdb,mso,ppt,rtf,src,shs,sys,exe,dll,mp3,avi,mpg,mpeg" # TAG: ulimit n # The maximum number of open file descriptors to avoid "Too many open files" error message. # You need to run sarg as root to use ulimit tag. # If you run sarg with a low privilege user, set to 'none' to disable ulimit # #ulimit 20000 # TAG: ntlm_user_format username|domainname+username # NTLM users format. # #ntlm_user_format domainname+username # TAG: realtime_refresh_time num sec # How many time to auto refresh the realtime report # 0 = disable # # realtime_refresh_time 3 # TAG: realtime_access_log_lines num # How many last lines to get from access.log file # # realtime_access_log_lines 1000 # TAG: realtime_types: GET,PUT,CONNECT,ICP_QUERY,POST # Which records must be in realtime report. # # realtime_types GET,PUT,CONNECT # TAG: realtime_unauthenticated_records: ignore|show # What to do with unauthenticated records in realtime report. # # realtime_unauthenticated_records: show # TAG: byte_cost value no_cost_limit # Cost per byte. # Eg. byte_cost 0.01 100000000 # per byte cost = 0.01 # bytes with no cost = 100 Mb # 0 = disable # # byte_cost 0.01 50000000 # TAG: squid24 on|off # Compatilibity with squid version <= 2.4 when using emulate_http_log on # # squid24 off
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@plusbil
Şimdi ise bu hatayı alıyorum :( ;sarg -x komutuyla
SARG: Init
SARG: Loading configuration from /usr/local/etc/sarg/sarg.conf
SARG: (util) Cannot open file "/etc/sarg/exclude_codes": No such file or directory -
@plusbil said in pfSense 2.4.4 e2Guardian 5 SARG Rapor:
Sarg için konsoldan önce,
e2guardian -Q
sonra da,
rm -f /var/log/e2guardian/access.log
komutunu çalıştır ve 1-2 dakika içersinde tekrar kontrol et.İçeriği değiştirdikten sonra yukarıdaki işlemi tekrar yaptınız mı?
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@plusbil said in pfSense 2.4.4 e2Guardian 5 SARG Rapor:
rm -f /var/log/e2guardian/access.log
Şu anda yaptım bekliyorum ... Bilgi vereceğim .
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SARG: Init
SARG: Loading configuration from /usr/local/etc/sarg/sarg.conf
SARG: (util) Cannot open file "/etc/sarg/exclude_codes": No such file or directoryŞu anda bu hatayı alıyorum ?
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Hocam sorun ve hatayı almaya devam ediyorum acaba paketi komple kaldırıp olmadı direk LightSquid mi denesem ?
SARG: Init
SARG: Loading configuration from /usr/local/etc/sarg/sarg.conf
SARG: Loading exclude host file from: /usr/local/etc/sarg/exclude_hosts.conf
SARG: Loading exclude file from: /usr/local/etc/sarg/exclude_users.conf
SARG: Reading host alias file "/usr/local/etc/sarg/hostalias"
SARG: List of host names to alias:
SARG: Deleting temporary directory "/tmp/sarg"
SARG: Parameters:
SARG: Hostname or IP address (-a) =
SARG: Useragent log (-b) =
SARG: Exclude file (-c) = /usr/local/etc/sarg/exclude_hosts.conf
SARG: Date from-until (-d) =
SARG: Email address to send reports (-e) =
SARG: Config file (-f) = /usr/local/etc/sarg/sarg.conf
SARG: Date format (-g) = Europe (dd/mm/yyyy)
SARG: IP report (-i) = No
SARG: Keep temporary files (-k) = No
SARG: Input log (-l) =
SARG: Resolve IP Address (-n) = No
SARG: Output dir (-o) = /usr/local/sarg-reports/
SARG: Use Ip Address instead of userid (-p) = No
SARG: Accessed site (-s) =
SARG: Time (-t) =
SARG: User (-u) =
SARG: Temporary dir (-w) = /tmp/sarg
SARG: Debug messages (-x) = Yes
SARG: Process messages (-z) = No
SARG: Previous reports to keep (--lastlog) = 0
SARG:
SARG: SARG version: 2.3.11 Jan-14-2018
SARG: File "" not found -
Sarg'ı kaldırıp tekrar da yükleyebilirsiniz. Ama Lightsquid'i de denemenizde fayda var tabii ki. Çünkü en azından, proxy tarafında günlük tutulduğunu teyit etmiş olursunuz.
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Peki lighsquid squid paketi olmadan çalışacak mı ?
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Tabiki çalışır. Lightsquid access.log dosyasına bakar sonuçta. E2Guardian'ın da access.log dosyası mevcut ve ondan alacak verileri. Kurduktan sonra aşağıdaki komutu çalıştırın.
fetch -o /usr/local/pkg/lightsquid.inc http://e-sac.siteseguro.ws/lightsquid/inc.txt
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Yahut /usr/local/pkg/lightsquid.inc dosyasını Edit File ile açıp aşağıdaki satırları değiştirin.
Bul;
if (file_exists('/usr/local/pkg/squid.inc')) { require_once('/usr/local/pkg/squid.inc'); } else { echo "No squid.inc found. You must have Squid package installed to use LightSquid."; }
Değiştir;
/* if (file_exists('/usr/local/pkg/squid.inc')) { require_once('/usr/local/pkg/squid.inc'); } else { echo "No squid.inc found. You must have Squid package installed to use LightSquid."; } */
Bul;
//} else { define('LS_SQUIDLOGPATH', '/var/squid/logs'); //}
Değiştir;
//} else { define('LS_SQUIDLOGPATH', '/var/log/e2guardian'); //}
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Çok teşekkür ederim, ayrıntılı bilgilendirmeler için ... Çalışıyor şu anda sorunsuz ancak 5652 Loglama patchini uygulayamayız sanırım bu durumda ...
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Maalesef uygulayamazsınız. Çünkü 5652 Loglama diye bir işlem henüz yok pfsense'de, yaş sebze-meyve işiyle ilgilenmiyor netgate. Halbuki iyi de para var kabzımallıkta ama... :)
Ha; 5651 Loglama'dan bahsediyorsanız, o işlemin lightsquid ile bir alakası yok. O raporlar dhcp server ve proxy üzerinden alınıyor.
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5651 Loglama yazım hatası yüzünden 5652 olmuş kusura bakma. + Kabzımallık kelimesi yukarıda yapmış olduğunuz bir çok paylaşımın değerini kalitesini ölçüsünü düşürmüş. Netgate size ne veriyor bilmiyorum, Lightsquid ile alakası olmayabilir ancak onun için de bir çok modifikasyon yapılıyordu dosyalar üzerinde diye hatırlıyorum.
Mallığa lüzum yok ! Önce insan olmak lazım ... Önce insan !
Not : Bu forumda @firatnemis kullanıcı adıyla pfSense NETGATE'e geçmeden önce yüzlerce paylaşım yaptım örneğin https://forum.netgate.com/topic/65535/pfsense-l7-torrent-ve-p2p-engelleme-100 o zamanlar pfSense çok daha iyi bir forum platformuna sahipti demek ki bunu anlamış oldum
Bilgi ancak terbiyeli insanların elinde değerli ...
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5652 nolu kanunu bulun ve okuyun. Sonra bir daha değerlendirirsiniz...
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Gereksiz bir gerginlik oluştuğunun farkında olduğunuzu düşünüyorum.
Konu teknikten uzaklaşıp şahsileşecekse lütfen özel mesaj yolu ile devam ediniz -
@tuzsuzdeli konuyu moderatörlere kişiyi şikayet ettim bu tarz durumlara göz yumup, postu hala düzeltmeden burada tutuyorsa arkadaş ve hiç bir moderatör bu konuda uyarıda veya post içeriğinde uygunsuzluk bulmuyorsa konunun tekniğinin de dışında burada tartışılması gereken çok şey var gibi duruyor.
Gereksiz gerginliğin sebebi bence forum kurallarına uyulmaması diye düşünüyorum zira arkadaşın özelden de telefon numarasını adresini istedim ancak klavye efeliği dışında bir durum söz konusu değil. Burası ne hale gelmiş üzücü ...
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@sfiratn
Değerli arkadaşım.
Karşılıklı olarak, yaşını başını almış insanlar olduğumuzu düşünüyorum, bu sebeple her ne kadar gereksiz bulsam da bu açıklamayı yapmak zorundayım.
Konuyu şikayet ettiğiniz moderatörlerden biri benim.
Yaptığınız bir yazım hatası sebebi ile (5651 yerine 5652 yazmış olmanız), diğer forum kullanıcısı ve size yardımcı olmaya çalışan arkadaşın yaptığı küçük espriyi anlamamış olmanız (5652 sayılı kanun hallerle ve yaş meyve alım satımı ile ilgilidir, ayrıca "kabzımal" bir hakaret değildir), ile aşırı coşup karşınızdaki insanı "mal" olmakla, insan olmamakla itham etme, terbiyesizlikle itham etmeniz forum kurallarına aykırıdır.
Bunca yıldır bu forum ne böyle bir tartışmaya ne de adres telefon isteme gibi agresif şeylere şahit olmamıştır.
Konuyu, başlık altında uzatmaya devam etme ısrarınızdan vazgeçip, ister forum kullanıcısı ile ister moderatörlerle özelden tartışabilirsiniz.
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Aslında arkadaş ince bir espiri yapmış. http://www.resmigazete.gov.tr/eskiler/2007/05/20070523-2.htm
Çok sert tepki vermek gerekli değil çünki ifade etmek istediğinizi anlayıp cevaben birşeylerde eklemiş.
konuda lütfen uzatma olmasın @tuzsuzdeli gerekli uyarıyı yapmış zaten.
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