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    XMLRPC sync errors since upgrade to 2.4.4

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      SteveITS Galactic Empire @Nima304
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      @nima304
      is 172.16.1.3 the sync IP or the LAN IP of the second router?

      @windiz
      same question for 10.51.0.2?

      The routers I upgraded last week aren't logging comm errors...

      A long time ago I did have sync issues. I seem to recall I tracked it down to Suricata and that we had selectively disabled many of the unneeded individual rules. Turns out all that had to sync and it was timing out. Solution: don't disable individual rules and it has less to process.

      Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
      When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
      Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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        Nima304 @SteveITS
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        @teamits said in XMLRPC sync errors since upgrade to 2.4.4:

        @nima304
        is 172.16.1.3 the sync IP or the LAN IP of the second router?

        @windiz
        same question for 10.51.0.2?

        The routers I upgraded last week aren't logging comm errors...

        A long time ago I did have sync issues. I seem to recall I tracked it down to Suricata and that we had selectively disabled many of the unneeded individual rules. Turns out all that had to sync and it was timing out. Solution: don't disable individual rules and it has less to process.

        That's the sync IP for the second firewall. The primary's is 172.16.1.2.

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        • DerelictD
          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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            bbrendon @Nima304
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            @nima304 Thanks for digging into your setup to get to the bottom of this. I just haven't had time on my end and since things more or less work, it hasn't been a priority.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              Do you have a large number of users in the config?

              Steve

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                Nima304 @bbrendon
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                @bbrendon said in XMLRPC sync errors since upgrade to 2.4.4:

                @nima304 Thanks for digging into your setup to get to the bottom of this. I just haven't had time on my end and since things more or less work, it hasn't been a priority.

                No problem, hopefully there's a resolution that solves it for all of us.

                @stephenw10 said in XMLRPC sync errors since upgrade to 2.4.4:

                Do you have a large number of users in the config?

                Steve

                No, literally just the admin user, but I also have LDAP auth configured.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  That should be no problem as long as the user accounts are not on pfSense. A large number can introduce delays on the secondary when the sync'c config is added preventing it responding in reasonable time.

                  Hmm, I'd probably start a packet capture on the secondary sync interface. Set it for a large number and wait for it to fail. See what's actually happening there.

                  Steve

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                    SteveITS Galactic Empire
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                    In windiz's logs, it is exactly 60 seconds from the beginning of the sync to the error and that sounds like a timeout to me. Brainstorming, how large is your config export file? We have some decently complex ones for our data center that are about 180 KB, for reference...Suricata rules, pfBlockerNG, OpenVPN, etc.

                    Router2 isn't set to sync back to router1 is it? That would be a loop.

                    Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                    When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                    Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Yes, the timeout is 60s. It used to be possible to take longer than that to load the config and respond with more than ~50 users on some hardware. There have been improvements gone in since then though.

                      Steve

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                        Nima304 @SteveITS
                        last edited by

                        @teamits said in XMLRPC sync errors since upgrade to 2.4.4:

                        In windiz's logs, it is exactly 60 seconds from the beginning of the sync to the error and that sounds like a timeout to me. Brainstorming, how large is your config export file? We have some decently complex ones for our data center that are about 180 KB, for reference...Suricata rules, pfBlockerNG, OpenVPN, etc.

                        Router2 isn't set to sync back to router1 is it? That would be a loop.

                        Good catch, my logs are showing the same thing. While config sync isn't set at all on the secondary, the primary is syncing states from the secondary, and the secondary from the primary, as per pfSense's documentation.

                        I'm going to try to blow the firewall rules open on the sync interface for both firewalls and see if that does anything.

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                          Nima304
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                          Blowing open the rules did nothing, unfortunately. I'm seeing data received on the secondary firewall, so it's not a cable issue. I'll do a packet capture and see if anything interesting turns up.

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                            Nima304
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                            The transmission is encrypted using TLS, so I can't actually see what's going on.

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              You could set the GUI to http just while you test. However you should still be able to see the TCP sequence and lack or responses.
                              Make sure both nodes are time sync'd and then compare the log entries. Does the secondary log anything during that 60s window?

                              Steve

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                                AcaaliK
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                                Hello All,

                                I am facing the same issue after an upgrade from 2.4.3 to 2.4.4, I have gone through all the checks suggested on the thread and most are ok with the exception of an entry in Secondary system logs under the general tab. The error is XMLRPC unbound /var/unbound/root.key corrupt deleted and recreated each time a sync is performed.

                                On the primary node I will get the sporadic XMLRPC communication errors stated here. Please note the sync is successful and the changes from the primary are reflected on the secondary with some delay. This only started after the upgrade.

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                                  netblues
                                  last edited by netblues

                                  I'm facing exactly the same issue. And after upgrading to 2.4.4p1 from 2.4.3
                                  Settings are replicated, however I see this on the secondary.

                                  nginx: 2018/12/17 16:36:37 [crit] 79693#100242: *18691 SSL_write() failed (SSL:) (13: Permission denied) while sending to client, client: 192.168.50.3, server: , request: "POST /xmlrpc.php HTTP/1.1", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php-fpm.socket", host: "192.168.50.4" 
                                  
                                  
                                  

                                  50.3 is the primary and 50.4 is the secondary
                                  Any ideas?

                                  It looks like the config is received but the ack is never send back to the primary, thus the complaint.

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                                  • DerelictD
                                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                                    Permission denied is almost always something being blocked by policy.

                                    Are you running snort or suricata?

                                    Is it enabled on the sync interface?

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                                      netblues @Derelict
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                                      @derelict No snort or suricata ever installed. Not even pfblocker.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Do you see that same error if you just save the Unbound settings page on the secondary without making any changes?

                                        Does Unbound actually start on the secondary?

                                        Is the filesystem full?

                                        Steve

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                                          netblues @stephenw10
                                          last edited by netblues

                                          on the secondary...

                                          @stephenw10

                                          /root: df -h
                                          Filesystem                                         Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
                                          /dev/gptid/5bd4713a-8d68-11e8-aed9-5b3c92e7c0e9     18G    1.0G     16G     6%    /
                                          devfs                                              1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /dev
                                          /dev/md0                                           3.4M    156K    3.0M     5%    /var/run
                                          devfs                                              1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /var/dhcpd/dev
                                          
                                          code
                                          
                                           ps -alx | grep unb
                                           59 91398     1   0  20  0 48640 23480 kqread   Is    -      0:00.16 /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf
                                            0 86919 48899   0  20  0  6564  2456 piperd   S+    0      0:00.00 grep unb
                                          
                                          code
                                          

                                          and no it is not happening if I save settings on secondary on dns resolv

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                                            netblues
                                            last edited by

                                            So I reverted everything to http

                                            nginx: 2018/12/19 10:01:20 [alert] 91226#100384: *10 writev() failed (13: Permission denied) while sending to client, client: 192.168.50.3, server: , request: "POST /xmlrpc.php HTTP/1.1", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php-fpm.socket", host: "192.168.50.4" 
                                            
                                            
                                            

                                            It is not an ssl issue too.
                                            Where does this permission denied comes from?

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