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      Maxburn
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      Do we have OpenVPN performance numbers yet? I'm assuming it should have no issue with my little 100/10 Mbps pipe. Sounds perfect for the house or work from home situation.

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      • RicoR
        Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
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        Yeah some OpenVPN numbers would be nice.
        One more URL here ;-) https://www.netgate.com/blog/netgates-new-sg-1100-punches-way-above-its-weight.html

        -Rico

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          akuma1x
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          I'm so excited! Is that weird to get enthusiastic about a firewall offering? LOL

          And it's about time (in a good way, not being sarcastic...) that there's an affordable 3 port firewall box from Netgate. Hurry up now and make the wall mounting brackets.

          Jeff

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          • RicoR
            Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @akuma1x
            last edited by

            @akuma1x said in SG-1100:

            I'm so excited! Is that weird to get enthusiastic about a firewall offering?

            We are both weird dudes then. 😂

            -Rico

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            • RicoR
              Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
              last edited by

              So what is the default Switch Configuration for the SG-1100?

              -Rico

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              • jimpJ
                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                @rico said in SG-1100:

                So what is the default Switch Configuration for the SG-1100?

                Three discrete ports: WAN, LAN, OPT1

                But you can rearrange that however you like since they are all ports on the same switch.

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                • GrimsonG
                  Grimson Banned
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                  Can you upgrade the RAM? If not any plans on providing a version with 4 GB ram? 1 GB just doesn't cut it with pfBlockerNG and a more advanced config.

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                  • jimpJ
                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                    last edited by

                    Not that I'm aware of

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                      Maxburn
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                      It's an EspressoBin board inside, RAM is soldered to the board. Now the ExpressoBin boards appear to be available in varying memory configs though.

                      There was a picture of the board on the twitter announcements.

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                        Maxburn @Grimson
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                        @grimson You might have a point there, I just checked my pfSense which is running in a VM at the moment and I'm looking at this below. I'd be running just under 80% memory usage on the SG1100 looks like? Seems like bandwidthd is a hog according to top, could dump that.

                        Memory usage 38% of 2002 MiB
                        SWAP usage 20% of 1022 MiB

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                          SteveITS Galactic Empire @Grimson
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                          @grimson said in SG-1100:

                          Can you upgrade the RAM? If not any plans on providing a version with 4 GB ram? 1 GB just doesn't cut it with pfBlockerNG and a more advanced config.

                          Does pfBlockerNG use that much though? Perhaps it depends on the aliases being held in memory. We generally have a few rules that "allow from the US" so don't have a lot of active pfBlockerNG aliases.

                          I looked at a couple routers and one on a SG-3100 without packages is around 200 MB, while a PC running pfBlockerNG and Suricata is around 730 MB it says. Another SG-1100 running pfBlockerNG and Suricata is around 500 MB currently.

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                            Maxburn
                            last edited by Maxburn

                            Maybe I'm not sure what to look at, I'm not super familiar with reading the top command

                            Memory usage reported on dashboard 38% of 2002 MiB
                            Top results are;
                            Mem: 177M Active, 1116M Inact, 160M Laundry, 396M Wired, 199M Buf, 101M Free

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                            • jimpJ
                              jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                              last edited by

                              FreeBSD will grab free memory to use for things like caching so you can't always go by specifically how much is used and free as a guide. Free RAM is wasted RAM, they say.

                              Odds are your memory needs are lower than the used % shown, but that isn't necessarily true 100% of the time.

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                              • GrimsonG
                                Grimson Banned @SteveITS
                                last edited by

                                @teamits said in SG-1100:

                                Does pfBlockerNG use that much though? Perhaps it depends on the aliases being held in memory. We generally have a few rules that "allow from the US" so don't have a lot of active pfBlockerNG aliases.

                                Well I monitor memory usage with telegraf, and during normal operations it uses between ~600 and ~900 MB (not including buffers). But when pfBlockerNG updates it lists (with TLD enabled) the memory usage (again without buffers) goes up to ~1400 MB with spikes to ~1800 MB. So this would likely force the SG-1100 to swap, which IMHO is a no-no for a firewall.

                                For reference I'm using GeoIP, the PRI1 IP feeds for IPv4 and IPv6 and DNSBL for adblocking, so my lists aren't insanely huge. I also don't use any kind of IPS/IDS which would increase memory usage too. And that's a setup I would recommend for home users.

                                Also just to make it clear, I have no personal interest in buying any of the appliances for myself, as I'm a firm believer of using standard components to build all my PC devices by myself. Though I'm still looking for a IMHO good Netgate appliance I could recommend with a clear conscience to home users around me.

                                And all of this is obvious only my personal preference and opinion.

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                                  SteveITS Galactic Empire
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                                  @grimson said in SG-1100:

                                  when pfBlockerNG updates it lists (with TLD enabled) the memory usage (again without buffers) goes up to ~1400 MB

                                  Hmm, interesting. I usually have the updates running early morning so don't ever see that.

                                  I was looking at Memory Usage on the dashboard/home page.

                                  I don't see that the 3100 even has swap so I doubt the 1100 does.

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                                    Maxburn @SteveITS
                                    last edited by Maxburn

                                    @teamits said in SG-1100:

                                    I don't see that the 3100 even has swap so I doubt the 1100 does.

                                    SSH in and run top. I bet you will see swap there.

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                                      SteveITS Galactic Empire @Maxburn
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                                      @maxburn said in SG-1100:

                                      SSH in and run top. I bet you will see swap there.

                                      Actually I did that, just didn't post it:

                                      Mem: 17M Active, 317M Inact, 193M Wired, 82M Buf, 1461M Free
                                      Swap:

                                      PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND
                                      4364 unbound 2 20 0 54780K 37068K kqread 1 17:23 0.34% unbound
                                      ...

                                      Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
                                      /dev/diskid/DISK-E6E28698s2a 7.0G 930M 5.5G 14% /
                                      devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev
                                      /dev/diskid/DISK-E6E28698s1 34M 2.0M 32M 6% /boot/u-boot
                                      /dev/md0 3.4M 124K 3.0M 4% /var/run
                                      devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /var/dhcpd/dev

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                                      • jimpJ
                                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                        last edited by

                                        SG-1000 only had 512MB RAM, no swap, and people still managed to run things like that on there.

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                                        • GilG
                                          Gil Rebel Alliance
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                                          Any thoughts on adding an internal LTE module?

                                          11 cheers for binary

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                                            akuma1x @Gil
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                                            @gil said in SG-1100:

                                            Any thoughts on adding an internal LTE module?

                                            Looks like it's a "NO", because there's no internal sim slot to talk to an internal LTE modem module. Here's some Reddit posts about it:

                                            https://www.reddit.com/r/PFSENSE/comments/adj0jb/announcing_netgates_espressobinbased_sg1100/edhzaah

                                            This box has a couple of USB ports, so an external LTE solution should work...

                                            Jeff

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