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      akuma1x
      last edited by

      I'm so excited! Is that weird to get enthusiastic about a firewall offering? LOL

      And it's about time (in a good way, not being sarcastic...) that there's an affordable 3 port firewall box from Netgate. Hurry up now and make the wall mounting brackets.

      Jeff

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      • RicoR
        Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @akuma1x
        last edited by

        @akuma1x said in SG-1100:

        I'm so excited! Is that weird to get enthusiastic about a firewall offering?

        We are both weird dudes then. 😂

        -Rico

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        • RicoR
          Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
          last edited by

          So what is the default Switch Configuration for the SG-1100?

          -Rico

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          • jimpJ
            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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            @rico said in SG-1100:

            So what is the default Switch Configuration for the SG-1100?

            Three discrete ports: WAN, LAN, OPT1

            But you can rearrange that however you like since they are all ports on the same switch.

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            • GrimsonG
              Grimson Banned
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              Can you upgrade the RAM? If not any plans on providing a version with 4 GB ram? 1 GB just doesn't cut it with pfBlockerNG and a more advanced config.

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              • jimpJ
                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                Not that I'm aware of

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                  Maxburn
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                  It's an EspressoBin board inside, RAM is soldered to the board. Now the ExpressoBin boards appear to be available in varying memory configs though.

                  There was a picture of the board on the twitter announcements.

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                    Maxburn @Grimson
                    last edited by

                    @grimson You might have a point there, I just checked my pfSense which is running in a VM at the moment and I'm looking at this below. I'd be running just under 80% memory usage on the SG1100 looks like? Seems like bandwidthd is a hog according to top, could dump that.

                    Memory usage 38% of 2002 MiB
                    SWAP usage 20% of 1022 MiB

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                      SteveITS Galactic Empire @Grimson
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                      @grimson said in SG-1100:

                      Can you upgrade the RAM? If not any plans on providing a version with 4 GB ram? 1 GB just doesn't cut it with pfBlockerNG and a more advanced config.

                      Does pfBlockerNG use that much though? Perhaps it depends on the aliases being held in memory. We generally have a few rules that "allow from the US" so don't have a lot of active pfBlockerNG aliases.

                      I looked at a couple routers and one on a SG-3100 without packages is around 200 MB, while a PC running pfBlockerNG and Suricata is around 730 MB it says. Another SG-1100 running pfBlockerNG and Suricata is around 500 MB currently.

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                        Maxburn
                        last edited by Maxburn

                        Maybe I'm not sure what to look at, I'm not super familiar with reading the top command

                        Memory usage reported on dashboard 38% of 2002 MiB
                        Top results are;
                        Mem: 177M Active, 1116M Inact, 160M Laundry, 396M Wired, 199M Buf, 101M Free

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                        • jimpJ
                          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                          last edited by

                          FreeBSD will grab free memory to use for things like caching so you can't always go by specifically how much is used and free as a guide. Free RAM is wasted RAM, they say.

                          Odds are your memory needs are lower than the used % shown, but that isn't necessarily true 100% of the time.

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                          • GrimsonG
                            Grimson Banned @SteveITS
                            last edited by

                            @teamits said in SG-1100:

                            Does pfBlockerNG use that much though? Perhaps it depends on the aliases being held in memory. We generally have a few rules that "allow from the US" so don't have a lot of active pfBlockerNG aliases.

                            Well I monitor memory usage with telegraf, and during normal operations it uses between ~600 and ~900 MB (not including buffers). But when pfBlockerNG updates it lists (with TLD enabled) the memory usage (again without buffers) goes up to ~1400 MB with spikes to ~1800 MB. So this would likely force the SG-1100 to swap, which IMHO is a no-no for a firewall.

                            For reference I'm using GeoIP, the PRI1 IP feeds for IPv4 and IPv6 and DNSBL for adblocking, so my lists aren't insanely huge. I also don't use any kind of IPS/IDS which would increase memory usage too. And that's a setup I would recommend for home users.

                            Also just to make it clear, I have no personal interest in buying any of the appliances for myself, as I'm a firm believer of using standard components to build all my PC devices by myself. Though I'm still looking for a IMHO good Netgate appliance I could recommend with a clear conscience to home users around me.

                            And all of this is obvious only my personal preference and opinion.

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                              SteveITS Galactic Empire
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                              @grimson said in SG-1100:

                              when pfBlockerNG updates it lists (with TLD enabled) the memory usage (again without buffers) goes up to ~1400 MB

                              Hmm, interesting. I usually have the updates running early morning so don't ever see that.

                              I was looking at Memory Usage on the dashboard/home page.

                              I don't see that the 3100 even has swap so I doubt the 1100 does.

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                                Maxburn @SteveITS
                                last edited by Maxburn

                                @teamits said in SG-1100:

                                I don't see that the 3100 even has swap so I doubt the 1100 does.

                                SSH in and run top. I bet you will see swap there.

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                                  SteveITS Galactic Empire @Maxburn
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                                  @maxburn said in SG-1100:

                                  SSH in and run top. I bet you will see swap there.

                                  Actually I did that, just didn't post it:

                                  Mem: 17M Active, 317M Inact, 193M Wired, 82M Buf, 1461M Free
                                  Swap:

                                  PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND
                                  4364 unbound 2 20 0 54780K 37068K kqread 1 17:23 0.34% unbound
                                  ...

                                  Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
                                  /dev/diskid/DISK-E6E28698s2a 7.0G 930M 5.5G 14% /
                                  devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev
                                  /dev/diskid/DISK-E6E28698s1 34M 2.0M 32M 6% /boot/u-boot
                                  /dev/md0 3.4M 124K 3.0M 4% /var/run
                                  devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /var/dhcpd/dev

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                                  • jimpJ
                                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                    SG-1000 only had 512MB RAM, no swap, and people still managed to run things like that on there.

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                                    • GilG
                                      Gil Rebel Alliance
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                                      Any thoughts on adding an internal LTE module?

                                      11 cheers for binary

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                                        akuma1x @Gil
                                        last edited by

                                        @gil said in SG-1100:

                                        Any thoughts on adding an internal LTE module?

                                        Looks like it's a "NO", because there's no internal sim slot to talk to an internal LTE modem module. Here's some Reddit posts about it:

                                        https://www.reddit.com/r/PFSENSE/comments/adj0jb/announcing_netgates_espressobinbased_sg1100/edhzaah

                                        This box has a couple of USB ports, so an external LTE solution should work...

                                        Jeff

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          If you need a LTE connection, my suggestion would be to get a LTE modem that hands it off via ethernet.. This removes any need for freebsd support for the device.

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                                          • GilG
                                            Gil Rebel Alliance @akuma1x
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                                            @akuma1x Thanks for the info

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