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    • GertjanG
      Gertjan
      last edited by

      Tested twice :

      Microsoft Windows [version 6.1.7601]
      Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Tous droits réservés.
      
      C:\Users\Réception-Gauche>nslookup
      Serveur par dÚfaut :   pfsense.brit-hotel-fumel.net
      Address:  2001:470:1f13:5c0:2::1
      
      > test.google.com
      Serveur :   pfsense.brit-hotel-fumel.net
      Address:  2001:470:1f13:5c0:2::1
      
      *** pfsense.brit-hotel-fumel.net ne parvient pas à trouver test.google.com : Non-existent domain
      > test.google.com
      Serveur :   pfsense.brit-hotel-fumel.net
      Address:  2001:470:1f13:5c0:2::1
      
      Nom :    test.google.com
      Address:  10.10.10.10
      
      >
      

      The first time : domaine not found - which is a correct answer.

      Before launching the seconde, same test I put in place a host override for test.google.com
      0_1551446383593_cc358e68-9e1b-49d6-ada2-4bda3792f369-image.png

      This time, the answer was 10.10.10.10

      That is the good news.
      The bad news : I'm using the Resolver in Resolver mode. But I'm pretty sure it should behave the same way when using Forwarder mode.

      Also :
      0_1551446583233_cae5d2d0-c1d3-4ece-a01d-9703695d374a-image.png
      which is ok.

      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by johnpoz

        is 10.1.1.1 your pfsense IP on this network. Your firewall rules allow it to be queried. Unbound is is using this interface to answer queries?

        This is really drop dead click works.. Looks to me like your clients can not even query pfsense for anything. Post up your unbound config and your firewall rules.

        It would respond with both if you use the same name as pfsense actual name you setup.

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        • RedDelPaPaR
          RedDelPaPa @johnpoz
          last edited by RedDelPaPa

          @johnpoz
          Yes, yes, and yes. It will resolve external IP's for me just fine. What it won't do is pass on an overidden host to any PC on my LAN.0_1551447364251_Firewall_ Rules_ LAN.png
          0_1551447514905_DNS Query.png
          Where do I find this config file?

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          • RedDelPaPaR
            RedDelPaPa @johnpoz
            last edited by

            @johnpoz
            0_1551447729079_2019-03-01 06_39_54-Settings.png
            0_1551447736271_2019-03-01 06_40_45-Settings.png

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by johnpoz

              And are you actually hitting apply to restart unbound when you put in your override?

              Do you have anything odd in your custom options?

              Look in your unbound conf file.. It would show you your overrides you have set. Restart Unbound.

              Look in your host conf file
              0_1551448535189_hostoverrides.png

              Do you actually see your host override in there - did unbound actually restart after you put in your override..

              Are you running something like pfblocker?

              Can you not just use a real tool like nslookup or dig so you can actually see if there what you get back like maybe NX or something or if your getting a servfail, etc. Increase the logging of unbound - do you actually see the query in the log?

              Looks like tool reports nx, domain not found... My guess would be your not actually restarting unbound after you put in your override? Or maybe you have some sort of dns redirect going on? You need to validate your actually asking unbound, and unbound has the record there to serve up.

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              • RedDelPaPaR
                RedDelPaPa @johnpoz
                last edited by RedDelPaPa

                @johnpoz
                "And are you actually hitting apply to restart unbound when you put in your override?" Yes.
                "Do you have anything odd in your custom options?" Not that I'm aware of.
                "Look in your unbound conf file.. It would show you your overrides you have set. Restart Unbound."
                Unbound has been restarted. I don't see anything in unbound.conf pertaining to my domains.

                Here is my unbound.conf:
                ##########################

                Unbound Configuration

                ##########################

                Server configuration

                server:

                chroot: /var/unbound
                username: "unbound"
                directory: "/var/unbound"
                pidfile: "/var/run/unbound.pid"
                use-syslog: yes
                port: 53
                verbosity: 1
                hide-identity: yes
                hide-version: yes
                harden-glue: yes
                do-ip4: yes
                do-ip6: yes
                do-udp: yes
                do-tcp: yes
                do-daemonize: yes
                module-config: "validator iterator"
                unwanted-reply-threshold: 0
                num-queries-per-thread: 512
                jostle-timeout: 200
                infra-host-ttl: 900
                infra-cache-numhosts: 10000
                outgoing-num-tcp: 10
                incoming-num-tcp: 10
                edns-buffer-size: 4096
                cache-max-ttl: 86400
                cache-min-ttl: 0
                harden-dnssec-stripped: yes
                msg-cache-size: 4m
                rrset-cache-size: 8m

                num-threads: 2
                msg-cache-slabs: 2
                rrset-cache-slabs: 2
                infra-cache-slabs: 2
                key-cache-slabs: 2
                outgoing-range: 4096
                #so-rcvbuf: 4m
                auto-trust-anchor-file: /var/unbound/root.key
                prefetch: no
                prefetch-key: no
                use-caps-for-id: no
                serve-expired: no

                Statistics

                Unbound Statistics

                statistics-interval: 0
                extended-statistics: yes
                statistics-cumulative: yes

                SSL Configuration

                Interface IP(s) to bind to

                interface-automatic: yes
                interface: 0.0.0.0
                interface: ::0

                Outgoing interfaces to be used

                DNS Rebinding

                For DNS Rebinding prevention

                private-address: 10.0.0.0/8
                private-address: ::ffff:a00:0/104
                private-address: 172.16.0.0/12
                private-address: ::ffff:ac10:0/108
                private-address: 169.254.0.0/16
                private-address: ::ffff:a9fe:0/112
                private-address: 192.168.0.0/16
                private-address: ::ffff:c0a8:0/112
                private-address: fd00::/8
                private-address: fe80::/10

                Set private domains in case authoritative name server returns a Private IP address

                private-domain: "google.com"
                domain-insecure: "google.com"

                Access lists

                include: /var/unbound/access_lists.conf

                Static host entries

                include: /var/unbound/host_entries.conf

                dhcp lease entries

                include: /var/unbound/dhcpleases_entries.conf

                OpenVPN client entries

                include: /var/unbound/openvpn.*.conf

                Domain overrides

                include: /var/unbound/domainoverrides.conf

                Remote Control Config

                include: /var/unbound/remotecontrol.conf

                "Look in your host conf file"
                Here is my hosts file:
                127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.mydomain.net
                ::1 localhost localhost.mydomain.net
                10.1.1.1 primary.mydomain.net primary
                10.1.1.10 S1.mydomain.net S1
                10.1.1.10 primary.myseconddomain.net primary
                10.1.1.10 primary.mydomain.net primary
                10.10.10.10 test.google.com test

                dhcpleases automatically entered

                dhcpleases automatically entered

                "Are you running something like pfblocker?" I am running pfBlockerNG. Is that a problem?

                "Can you not just use a real tool like nslookup or dig so you can actually see if there what you get back like maybe NX or something or if your getting a servfail, etc. Increase the logging of unbound - do you actually see the query in the log?

                Looks like tool reports nx, domain not found... My guess would be your not actually restarting unbound after you put in your override? Or maybe you have some sort of dns redirect going on? You need to validate your actually asking unbound, and unbound has the record there to serve up."

                I use nslookup from a windows machine. Are you speaking of something else? Can you tell me how to do as you suggest? I'd be more than happy to. I just upped the logging level to level 3. Where do I find the proper unbound log? And where might I find the redirect setting(s) you speak of that could cause this problem?

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                  @reddelpapa said in DNS Resolver/Forwarder host overrides not working:

                  private-domain: "google.com"
                  domain-insecure: "google.com"

                  Why do you have that set?

                  And yes pfblocker could for sure becausing you problems.

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                  • RedDelPaPaR
                    RedDelPaPa @johnpoz
                    last edited by RedDelPaPa

                    @johnpoz
                    I have no idea how that got set, or how. I was fooling with google.com and test.google.com overrides to see if they were broke too and the answer is yes.

                    So then, what do you suggest? I have a test version of pfsense running in a VM. Maybe I can restore it to defaults, configure host overrides and see if it works there. If so, then I'll one by one load the same packages I have on my production box and see if pfblocker breaks it.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by johnpoz

                      I can tell you for fact out of the box host overrides just work.. So yeah you got something odd going on..

                      Click on your custom options box in your unbound config - what do you have in there?

                      Do you have anything set in your port forwards on your lan interface?

                      I would set unbound to log queries, you can do that with

                      server:
                      log-queries: yes

                      In your custom option box and then sure up the logging level in the setting.

                      Now when you do a query for your host override you will see it in the log

                      Mar 1 10:45:03 unbound 7669:0 info: 192.168.9.100 aaatest.google.com. A IN

                      $ dig @192.168.9.253 aaatest.google.com                                
                                                                                             
                      ; <<>> DiG 9.12.3-P1 <<>> @192.168.9.253 aaatest.google.com            
                      ; (1 server found)                                                     
                      ;; global options: +cmd                                                
                      ;; Got answer:                                                         
                      ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 21606              
                      ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
                                                                                             
                      ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:                                                  
                      ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096                                  
                      ;; QUESTION SECTION:                                                   
                      ;aaatest.google.com.            IN      A                              
                                                                                             
                      ;; ANSWER SECTION:                                                     
                      aaatest.google.com.     3600    IN      A       11.11.11.11
                                                                      
                      ;; Query time: 0 msec                                                  
                      ;; SERVER: 192.168.9.253#53(192.168.9.253)                             
                      ;; WHEN: Fri Mar 01 10:45:03 Central Standard Time 2019                
                      ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 63                                                  
                      

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                      • RedDelPaPaR
                        RedDelPaPa
                        last edited by

                        I have nothing in the custom options box. No lan port forwards.

                        Nothing extra is showing in the dns resolver log. Where exactly is this log?

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by johnpoz

                          Its in where all the other logs are ;)

                          0_1551460560824_logs.png

                          There where did the customs stuff for google come from?

                          Seems to me you got something tweaked up!!

                          Did you put in the setting for query logs?
                          0_1551460765998_logqur.png

                          If you want to see the queries for logs.. Is anything happening there - all your other clients asking for stuff that you say is being done by unbound?

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                          • RedDelPaPaR
                            RedDelPaPa @johnpoz
                            last edited by RedDelPaPa

                            @johnpoz
                            Yes sir. I did that exactly as you show. Yes clearly this system isn't working. I'm gonna do as I explained with my VM install of pfsense. Take it to defaults with no addon packages and see if the host overrides work there.

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                            • RedDelPaPaR
                              RedDelPaPa @johnpoz
                              last edited by

                              @johnpoz
                              So some progress has been made. pfblocker and suricata are not effecting my problem. I also had BIND installed but not running. I uninstalled the package and now my DNS resolver host overrides return this:
                              0_1551509333547_DNS Query2.png
                              The second IP is the correct one. Now how do I get rid of the 10.1.1.1?

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by

                                So you had bind running would be my guess.. And unbound wasn't running.. That completely explains the problem!!!

                                And your not going to get rid of the 2nd one.. if pfsense is called primary.domain.tld that it will return the IP of its lan IP..

                                You can not just create another primary.domain.tld and not return that address.

                                Call pfsense something else!!! like pfsense.domain.tld vs primary.domain.tld - then you can create your host override pointing to what you want.

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                                • RedDelPaPaR
                                  RedDelPaPa @johnpoz
                                  last edited by

                                  @johnpoz
                                  No, I verified that unbound was indeed running. BIND was installed, but disabled.
                                  Ok I can do that. I will give pfsense a different host name and that problem should be solved.

                                  On another topic, I have another problem. Do you know how I can make the windows OpenVPN clients actually run in service mode so that they will connect without any user needing to be logged on? I've tried everything I've searched for online but nothing works.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by johnpoz

                                    Why would you want / need windows to run openvpn... You can just run your vpn client on pfsense and policy route.

                                    If you want support on how to do XYZ with windows - then you could ask in the general section... But pretty sure its going to be a bunch of crickets.. Your best hope is actual windows support forum.

                                    So you want your windoows box to be connected to vpn service, while nobody is logged into? Why would you not just do that on pfsense - no any box you want on your whole network can be routed out your vpn, or multiple different vpns.. With ZERO to do on the client. Be it they logged in, be it they just booted, be it they are shutting down, etc.

                                    "BIND was installed, but disabled." -- Sure OK <rolleyes> I believe you <rolleyes> I have been doing DNS with bind since it came out.. I have been running Pfsense since it came out... I have been using unbound and bind on pfsense unbound was just a package and not built in, etc. etc. etc.. But sure OK -- your install of bind dicked up your host overrides ;) I have the bind package installed. And I turn it on and off all the time to help users with here.. The configs for these packages have zero to do with each other.. You have x service listening on 53 or you have y service listening on 53... If you have them both enabled then you run into a RACE condition on which service is actually going to bind to 53 and answer

                                    You had to ask where the logs where... So sorry but have a hard time buying that story.. When bind answering vs unbound explains all your problems..

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                                    • RedDelPaPaR
                                      RedDelPaPa @johnpoz
                                      last edited by RedDelPaPa

                                      @johnpoz
                                      I'm trying to get 2 remote windows PC's connected securely to my network via OpenVPN. I've got the tunnel and the client connections created and working. I can even have them auto connect when a user logs on. But I want to go one step further and have the vpn client operate as a service so that it will connect regardless if any user is logged on or not.

                                      Perhaps I should've taken a snippit of my services section. I'm telling you, BIND was installed but not in use. Resolver was in use.

                                      I sense a little attitude. Now you've got me wanting to reinstall BIND, break my shit, and grab a snippit just to put your foot in your mouth. ;)

                                      Thanks for your help though. Appreciate it.

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                                      • GertjanG
                                        Gertjan @RedDelPaPa
                                        last edited by Gertjan

                                        @reddelpapa said in DNS Resolver/Forwarder host overrides not working:

                                        Perhaps I should've taken a snippit of my services section.

                                        First, I love pfSense.

                                        But when multiple identical-service-types services are running on my system - any system, I ask the one that knows :

                                        [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfsense.mynet.net]/root: ps ax | grep 'named'
                                        44896  0  S+      0:00.00 grep named
                                        

                                        Now I know bind isn't running - installed, activated, whatever. It isn't running.

                                        Another this one :

                                        sockstat -l | grep ":53"
                                        

                                        to see who is listening on port "53".

                                        The usage of such command made me head-slapping more then ones.
                                        GUI's are nice,
                                        Knowing the absolute truth is better.

                                        Latest experience, last month : freeradius was running and not taken in account my new settings.
                                        Found out that I managed to start multiple instances .... my head still hurts.

                                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                          Go ahead do that do reinstall it... I have it installed..

                                          As Gertjan stated... Why did you not do that?

                                          If unbound was running then it would of freaking answered the query, or logged it!! It did neither... So what does that tell you?

                                          Just installing bind has zero to do with unbound... I have it installed on my own system - but guess what its NOT running!!

                                          But unbound is!

                                          [2.4.4-RELEASE][root@sg4860.local.lan]/root: sockstat -l | grep :53
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 3  udp4   192.168.9.253:53      *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 4  tcp4   192.168.9.253:53      *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 5  udp4   192.168.2.253:53      *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 6  tcp4   192.168.2.253:53      *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 7  udp4   192.168.4.253:53      *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 8  tcp4   192.168.4.253:53      *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 9  udp4   192.168.6.253:53      *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 10 tcp4   192.168.6.253:53      *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 11 udp4   192.168.7.253:53      *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 15 tcp4   192.168.7.253:53      *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 16 udp4   192.168.3.253:53      *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 17 tcp4   192.168.3.253:53      *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 18 udp6   2001:470:snipped:53 *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 19 tcp6   2001:470:snipped:53 *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 20 udp4   127.0.0.1:53          *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 21 tcp4   127.0.0.1:53          *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 22 udp6   ::1:53                *:*
                                          unbound  unbound    18353 23 tcp6   ::1:53                *:*
                                          [2.4.4-RELEASE][root@sg4860.local.lan]/root: 
                                          

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                                          • RedDelPaPaR
                                            RedDelPaPa @johnpoz
                                            last edited by

                                            @johnpoz

                                            Well, maybe you're right. Because it does make sense that something else was getting in the way of unbound. I just know what I saw under system services because I thought of that several days ago and specifically looked to see if BIND was running or not. After I installed suricata and pfblocker on my test install and DNS resolver still worked as it should, that triggered me to go ahead and uninstall BIND because it was the only difference between my test and production pfsense units. But either way, the problem is solved, and I appreciate your help in doing so.

                                            Have a great weekend,
                                            Nate

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