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    VLAN's not working with pfSense and HP1810-24G Switch.

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    • HermanH
      Herman @steve.scotter
      last edited by

      Hi Steve-scotter,

      Thanks for your reply. I was thinking in that direction as well. The pfSense LAN and WAN port are Hyper-V switches connected to a physical NIC on the Hyper-V (Server 2016) host. De server has two physical nic's on board en a 4 port Intel server NIC interface card. So in total the server has 6 physical nic's on board. In another post I've read some info about some power shell command regarding the Hyper-V nics.

      Kind regards,
      Herman

      Limburg | The Netherlands.
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      • HermanH
        Herman @Herman
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        Hello,

        This is the thread I found regarding some powershell commands were @bobtheninja talks about. Does this make sense?

        https://forum.netgate.com/topic/81161/pfsense-hyper-v-vlans/3

        Any help appreciated
        Herman

        Limburg | The Netherlands.
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        • HermanH
          Herman @Herman
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          Hi Folks,

          I tried the following command. Somehow something went wrong.

          0_1551965793337_f5437c79-f4b2-4220-b80c-146c9db1e2c7-image.png

          This is the solution @bobtheninja provides. Any ideas?

          Regards Herman

          Limburg | The Netherlands.
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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by johnpoz

            I just went over this recently... Let me dig up the thread..

            But yes you have to set trunk mode with powershell - not sure why messing with mac addresses? That thread is 2 years old..

            BRB
            edit: here you go
            https://forum.netgate.com/topic/139891/solve-hyperv-2012-vlans-support-hn0/8

            I walked through how to do tagged vlans, with pictures ;)

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            • HermanH
              Herman @johnpoz
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              Hi @johnpoz,

              Wow. That is a lot of information. I have to dig in there. You were right. I messed up things. Messing around with the mac address was indeed no good idea!!! Now I have to wait till I am home because my whole config isn't accessible anymore :-(

              I have to figure out the exact power shell command to do your trick. I have 2 nic's in de pfsense vm. A LAN and WAN. So I presume that I only have to alter the LAN vlan settings right?

              For now I am not able to connect to the network anymore! :-( I hope I can reverse the settings i've made...

              Cheerz Herman

              Limburg | The Netherlands.
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              • HermanH
                Herman @Herman
                last edited by

                Hello Johnpoz,

                I am back in business again. Was able to reverse my mes sup with the MAC address.

                Let me show you what i Have done. That is after the restore :-)

                0_1551983681830_7d2eadcb-b6b3-460b-9527-004c6a0f5bdc-image.png

                Above you see the 2 virtual network adapters connected to my pfSense. one of them is the LAN and the other would be the WAN. cannot see that here. I think that is the reason why @bobtheninja was using the MAC address part???

                Next I executed the following command.

                0_1551983827785_bb363548-697a-457f-80b8-46bfefc12ce3-image.png

                After that evrything stops working. When setting the mode back to Untagged everything is working again.

                My HP 1810 switch is configured this way;

                0_1551984196584_d4363baa-5483-4577-b70e-0647071b27fc-image.png

                Port 1 on the switch that is connected to the pfSense LAN interface is configured as a Trunk port

                0_1551984317366_967d3ab0-fe92-47a7-8a09-7a7f0f449f67-image.png

                Any suggestions?

                Kind regards Herman

                Limburg | The Netherlands.
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                • HermanH
                  Herman @Herman
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                  @herman said in VLAN's not working with pfSense and HP1810-24G Switch.:

                  Hello Johnpoz,

                  I am back in business again. Was able to reverse my mes sup with the MAC address.

                  Let me show you what i Have done. That is after the restore :-)

                  0_1551983681830_7d2eadcb-b6b3-460b-9527-004c6a0f5bdc-image.png

                  Above you see the 2 virtual network adapters connected to my pfSense. one of them is the LAN and the other would be the WAN. cannot see that here. I think that is the reason why @bobtheninja was using the MAC address part???

                  Next I executed the following command.

                  0_1551983827785_bb363548-697a-457f-80b8-46bfefc12ce3-image.png

                  After that evrything stops working. When setting the mode back to Untagged everything is working again.

                  My HP 1810 switch is configured this way;

                  0_1551984196584_d4363baa-5483-4577-b70e-0647071b27fc-image.png

                  Port 1 on the switch that is connected to the pfSense LAN interface is configured as a Trunk port

                  0_1551984317366_967d3ab0-fe92-47a7-8a09-7a7f0f449f67-image.png

                  Any suggestions?

                  Kind regards Herman

                  Another screenshot how the interfaces are shown in pfSense;

                  0_1551984801112_92e61d5d-1b4e-4996-b72a-a5c4fc6ce239-image.png

                  Limburg | The Netherlands.
                  It is nice to be important. But it is more important to be nice! | Failure, the best teacher it is!

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                    You sure hp uses trunk in the same same with as cisco? WTF is static mode? Where are you tagging specific vlans?

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                    • PippinP
                      Pippin
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                      Yes, there is a difference between HP and Cisco:
                      https://networkingnerd.net/2011/02/02/when-is-a-trunk-not-a-trunk/

                      I gloomily came to the ironic conclusion that if you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.
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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                        ^ exactly!!! I thought they were different!

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                        • PippinP
                          Pippin
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                          On the old forum I posted a question few years ago and ran into this terminology problem myself, you where part of it too johnpoz ☺ , misunderstanding all around as same here, but cannot find the post...

                          I gloomily came to the ironic conclusion that if you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.
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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                            I have not had to touch an HP switch for years and years - and to be honest have no desire to any time soon... But yeah I recall terminology is different that cisco ;)

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                            • HermanH
                              Herman @johnpoz
                              last edited by

                              @johnpoz said in VLAN's not working with pfSense and HP1810-24G Switch.:

                              You sure hp uses trunk in the same same with as cisco? WTF is static mode? Where are you tagging specific vlans?

                              When I read the document Pipin provided HP uses tagged ports to carry multiple vlans.

                              Under mode there are the multiple option;

                              0_1552046688890_066e30e6-98ab-4ccf-8dca-d1d445cd4030-image.png

                              Gr. Herman

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                              • HermanH
                                Herman @Pippin
                                last edited by

                                @pippin said in VLAN's not working with pfSense and HP1810-24G Switch.:

                                On the old forum I posted a question few years ago and ran into this terminology problem myself, you where part of it too johnpoz ☺ , misunderstanding all around as same here, but cannot find the post...

                                Hi Pipin, I really hoping you will ... :-)

                                It seems that my HP 1810-24G is the pain in the ass here.

                                Gr. Herman

                                Limburg | The Netherlands.
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                                • HermanH
                                  Herman @johnpoz
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                                  @johnpoz said in VLAN's not working with pfSense and HP1810-24G Switch.:

                                  I have not had to touch an HP switch for years and years - and to be honest have no desire to any time soon... But yeah I recall terminology is different that cisco ;)

                                  I have the feeling you are not a really big fan of HP switches 😉

                                  You are tending more to Cisco? Is Unify also a good product?

                                  gr. Herman

                                  Limburg | The Netherlands.
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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                    Not that not a fan of them... Just much more experience with Cisco, and the few times I have had to deal with HP.. Not impressed with them compared to the cisco use to working with.

                                    For the price of unifi - you could get a pretty much full featured L3 switch from cisco small business line. The sg300 or sg350 line.. I just saw a sg350-28 on amazon for $179.. Its feature set far exceeds the same sort of price point from unifi.

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                                    • GrimsonG
                                      Grimson Banned @Herman
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                                      @herman said in VLAN's not working with pfSense and HP1810-24G Switch.:

                                      0_1552046688890_066e30e6-98ab-4ccf-8dca-d1d445cd4030-image.png

                                      Those are LAGG modes, nothing to do with setting up VLANs.

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                                      • HermanH
                                        Herman @Grimson
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                                        @grimson said in VLAN's not working with pfSense and HP1810-24G Switch.:

                                        @herman said in VLAN's not working with pfSense and HP1810-24G Switch.:

                                        0_1552046688890_066e30e6-98ab-4ccf-8dca-d1d445cd4030-image.png

                                        Those are LAGG modes, nothing to do with setting up VLANs.

                                        Thanks for your reply @Grimson .

                                        Gr. Herman

                                        Limburg | The Netherlands.
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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                          last edited by johnpoz

                                          The link pippin gave calls out what you need to do

                                          "In HPvania, the terminology used for a port that carries multiple VLANs is a tagged port. On an HP switch, the individual ports are rarely configured directly. Instead, the VLAN itself is configured and the ports are added to the VLAN configuration. "

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                                          • HermanH
                                            Herman
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                                            Hi Guys,

                                            Believe it or not, but my problem is solved. Thanks to all the expertise of you guys on here I finally get it going. There are still some issues regarding firewall rules but the VLAN part is working! Thanks to everybody who replied to this topic.

                                            For the other users who might have a HP 18010-24G and a Hyper-V virtualized pfSense I write down what the solution is in my case:

                                            1. On the pfsense box create a VLAN10 with ID 10. Assign the interface VLAN10 with the LAN (hn0) interface as parent interface.
                                            2. on the Hyper-V host run in a elevated powershell the folowing line: Get-VMNetworkAdapter -VMName "name of vm" | Where-Object -Property MacAddress -eq "mac address of the LAN interface" | Set-VMNetworkAdapterVlan -Trunk -NativeVlanId 1 -AllowedVlanIdList "10". If you have more interfaces connected to the pfSense box for example LAN and WAN, the mac address will modify the right interface. In this case the LAN interface.
                                            3. on the HP 1810-24G switch set the port that is connected to the LAN port of the pfSense box for both vlan's to Tagged! In this case VLAN1 and VLAN10 need to be marked as Tagged.
                                            4. All the device you want to have in VLAN10 the physical switch port of that device need to be set to Untagged on VLAN 10. VLAN1 should then become Excluded automatically on that port.
                                            5. Last but not least create a VLAN10 firewall rule. Tip. Copy the "Default allow LAN to any" and modify the rule from LAN to VLAN10 there were needed.
                                            6. Voila! In my case all was working now.

                                            In the above explanation I took VLAN10 and the networks 10.0.0.0/24 and 10.0.10.0/24 as example. Feel free to play around with other vlan's and subnets.

                                            Take also a look at the info other members provided. For me it was a big help and learning curve.

                                            Thanks again guys for all the help and patience.

                                            Cheers Herman

                                            Limburg | The Netherlands.
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