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    • KOMK
      KOM
      last edited by

      I had turned off the DNS Servers dealie long ago to save on vertical space in the browser. It's showing me that my AD DCs are my DNS.

      0_1552506880955_DNS_Resolver.png

      At this point, I fully admit that I have no idea what's going on or why. So even when you are using Resolver, if you include any servers in General Settings then it's going to silently forward instead?

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by johnpoz

        NO!! Pfsense (itself) will use what you have listed in the general setup... But if a client asks resolver on pfsense running listening on port 53, then that will either resolve or forward.

        But if you do not have loopback listed - then when pfsense needs to check if update, or look for packages, etc. its going to ask those name servers. When you go to the dns lookup menu... its going to ask what is set for in the general tab or gets from dhcp on your wan, etc.

        Out of the box pfsense should only ask itself.. which should be the resolver in resolver mode, with dnssec enabled.

        Your settings show that your not even doing dnssec.. And from what you showed... Id doubt your resolver can even talk to atleast not the NS for MS, etc.

        From a client on your network do a query to pfsense lan IP... Do you get an answer?

        Here is 2 example of specifically asking pfsense (resolver) for query of a fqdn

        0_1552507491808_dnsqueryexample.png

        On your client when you do nslookup it comes back with your pfsense as the NS, see how mine says sg4860.local.lan - 192.168.9.253.. That is pfsense lan IP.

        See when do a dig, I specifically called out my pfsense lan IP and it answered.

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        • KOMK
          KOM
          last edited by

          These DNS settings were mostly inherited form my original 2.1.x installation 4+ years ago. I have no idea what the current default settings are nowadays.

          And yes, I can run nslookup, point it to pfsense and resolver some unknown host:

          Replaced real hosts/domains with ???

          PS C:\Users\KOM> nslookup
          Default Server:  ???.???.local
          Address:  10.10.0.1
          
          > server 10.10.4.1
          Default Server:  wpad.???.???.local
          Address:  10.10.4.1
          
          > www.boogers.com
          Server:  wpad.???.???.local
          Address:  10.10.4.1
          
          Non-authoritative answer:
          Name:    www.boogers.com
          Address:  91.195.240.126
          
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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by johnpoz

            So you sure dns forwarder is not running and you have a race condition..

            So your pfsense is called wpad?

            So unbound is specifically bound to 53?

            [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: sockstat | grep :53    
            unbound  unbound    33324 3  udp4   192.168.9.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 4  tcp4   192.168.9.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 5  udp4   192.168.2.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 6  tcp4   192.168.2.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 7  udp4   192.168.4.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 8  tcp4   192.168.4.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 9  udp4   192.168.6.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 10 tcp4   192.168.6.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 11 udp4   192.168.7.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 15 tcp4   192.168.7.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 16 udp4   192.168.3.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 17 tcp4   192.168.3.253:53      *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 18 udp6   2001:470:snipped::253:53 *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 19 tcp6   2001:470:snipped::253:53 *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 20 udp4   127.0.0.1:53          *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 21 tcp4   127.0.0.1:53          *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 22 udp6   ::1:53                *:*
            unbound  unbound    33324 23 tcp6   ::1:53                *:*
            

            And now that you asked it for boogers.com

            What is the output of the lookup command www.boogers.com

            You should see valid info in the infra cache for what ns it talked to look that domain. if they have RTO a bajillion... and say expired... Then it did not talk to them.

            Here is mine just asked for boogers as well

            [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf lookup www.boogers.com
            The following name servers are used for lookup of www.boogers.com.
            ;rrset 86309 2 0 2 0
            boogers.com.    172709  IN      NS      ns1.sedoparking.com.
            boogers.com.    172709  IN      NS      ns2.sedoparking.com.
            ;rrset 3509 1 0 8 0
            ns2.sedoparking.com.    3509    IN      A       91.195.240.8
            ;rrset 3509 1 0 8 0
            ns1.sedoparking.com.    3509    IN      A       91.195.241.8
            Delegation with 2 names, of which 2 can be examined to query further addresses.
            It provides 2 IP addresses.
            91.195.241.8            not in infra cache.
            91.195.240.8            not in infra cache.
            [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: 
            

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            • KOMK
              KOM
              last edited by KOM

              0_1552508403906_DNS_Forwarder.png

              So your pfsense is called wpad?

              It's called pfsense.???.local, wpad.???.local and wpad.???.???.local.

              [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfsense.???.local]/root: sockstat | grep :53
              squid    squid      1410  35 tcp4   WAN_IP:53787  40.101.128.194:443
              squid    squid      1410  62 tcp4   10.10.4.1:3128        10.10.10.166:53898
              squid    squid      1410  110 tcp4  WAN_IP:53670  52.96.50.130:443
              squid    squid      1410  148 tcp4  10.10.4.1:3128        10.10.10.141:53913
              squid    squid      1410  210 tcp4  10.10.4.1:3128        10.10.10.21:53204
              squid    squid      1410  223 tcp4  WAN_IP:53727  40.101.128.194:443
              squid    squid      1410  225 tcp4  10.10.4.1:3128        10.10.10.101:53794
              unbound  unbound    78590 4  udp4   *:53                  *:*
              unbound  unbound    78590 5  tcp4   *:53                  *:*
              unbound  unbound    78590 6  udp4   *:53                  *:*
              unbound  unbound    78590 7  tcp4   *:53                  *:*
              

              What is the output of the lookup command www.boogers.com

              [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfsense.???.local]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf lookup www.boogers.com
              The following name servers are used for lookup of www.boogers.com.
              ;rrset 85356 2 0 2 0
              boogers.com.    171756  IN      NS      ns1.sedoparking.com.
              boogers.com.    171756  IN      NS      ns2.sedoparking.com.
              ;rrset 85356 1 0 1 0
              ns2.sedoparking.com.    171756  IN      A       209.200.165.74
              ;rrset 85356 1 0 1 0
              ns1.sedoparking.com.    171756  IN      A       209.200.164.69
              Delegation with 2 names, of which 2 can be examined to query further addresses.
              It provides 2 IP addresses.
              209.200.164.69          expired, rto 48821432 msec, tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0.
              209.200.165.74          expired, rto 48821432 msec, tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0.
              
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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by johnpoz

                @kom said in DNS Resolver Status, no data?:

                squid squid 1410 35 tcp4 WAN_IP:53787 40.101.128.194:443
                squid squid 1410 62 tcp4 10.10.4.1:3128 10.10.10.166:53898
                squid squid 1410 110 tcp4 WAN_IP:53670 52.96.50.130:443
                squid squid 1410 148 tcp4 10.10.4.1:3128 10.10.10.141:53913
                squid squid 1410 210 tcp4 10.10.4.1:3128 10.10.10.21:53204
                squid squid 1410 223 tcp4 WAN_IP:53727 40.101.128.194:443
                squid squid 1410 225 tcp4 10.10.4.1:3128 10.10.10.101:53794

                Dude your running squid.. So all your queries are done by the proxy.. And proxy would use what?? Prob what is in general setup of psfense.

                This is broken!!
                209.200.164.69 expired, rto 48821432 msec, tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0.
                209.200.165.74 expired, rto 48821432 msec, tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0.

                Flush your infra cache, then do some queries direct to pfsense... Then look in your infra_cache you can flush with.
                flush_infra all

                Do quite a few queries for different things..

                You just flushed the cache, so it can answer stuff from its cache... So you need to ask for stuff that is not in the cache

                [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf flush_infra all
                ok
                [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf dump_infra
                [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf dump_infra
                [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf dump_infra
                [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf dump_infra
                [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf dump_infra
                2001:503:231d::2:30 net. ttl 892 ping 21 var 112 rtt 469 rto 469 tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0 ednsknown 1 edns 0 delay 0 lame dnssec 0 rec 0 A 0 other 0
                2001:503:d414::30 com. ttl 896 ping 7 var 85 rtt 347 rto 347 tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0 ednsknown 1 edns 0 delay 0 lame dnssec 0 rec 0 A 0 other 0
                95.101.36.128 akadns.net. ttl 883 ping 1 var 73 rtt 293 rto 293 tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0 ednsknown 1 edns 0 delay 0 lame dnssec 0 rec 0 A 0 other 0
                84.53.139.129 akadns.net. ttl 883 ping 1 var 74 rtt 297 rto 297 tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0 ednsknown 1 edns 0 delay 0 lame dnssec 0 rec 0 A 0 other 0
                95.100.173.129 akadns.net. ttl 883 ping 4 var 80 rtt 324 rto 324 tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0 ednsknown 1 edns 0 delay 0 lame dnssec 0 rec 0 A 0 other 0
                95.100.174.65 lastpass.com. ttl 883 ping 4 var 79 rtt 320 rto 320 tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0 ednsknown 1 edns 0 delay 0 lame dnssec 0 rec 0 A 0 other 0
                

                You see it took me bit for stuff started showing up.

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                • KOMK
                  KOM
                  last edited by

                  Why would squid be doing the lookups? It's not listening on 53. And I'm not going through the proxy personally (explicit mode, not transparent) so squid is out of the loop.

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    Why would you be running a proxy if not using it? Makes ZERO sense to run a proxy if not having clients use it.

                    When browser asks proxy for www.whatever.com - proxy is what looks up www.whatever.com no the client wanting to go to www.whatever.com

                    Your current infra has bunch of shit blocked with those expired and RTO... Dump its cache, then do some queries direct to pfsense and then look at the infra cache..

                    We are trying to get some info that unbound is actually working!

                    You sure you didn't put in a dns redirect and sending your dns queries to pfsense to your AD?

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                    • KOMK
                      KOM
                      last edited by

                      You're getting off-track here. I run a proxy for my non-admin users. I''m the admin. No proxy for me.

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        You have shown no info at all that unbound is even working... When you show proxy running... Then I assumed that is what the VAST majority of stuff would be using to get to the net and could explain not seeing large infra cache, etc.

                        Do my test.. with the dump and explicit queries to pfsense running unbound so we can get some valid info in your infra cache... But RTO of bajillion tells me your not talking to anything..

                        Here I now looking in my cache for www.whatever.com with the lookup command

                        2001:500:856e::30       rto 351 msec, ttl 680, ping 7 var 86 rtt 351, tA 0, tAAAA 0, tother 0, EDNS 0 probed.
                        192.31.80.30            not in infra cache.
                        2001:503:83eb::30       rto 351 msec, ttl 747, ping 7 var 86 rtt 351, tA 0, tAAAA 0, tother 0, EDNS 0 probed.
                        192.26.92.30            not in infra cache.
                        2001:503:a83e::2:30     not in infra cache.
                        192.5.6.30              rto 545 msec, ttl 688, ping 29 var 129 rtt 545, tA 0, tAAAA 0, tother 0, EDNS 0 probed.
                        2001:503:d2d::30        not in infra cache.
                        192.52.178.30           not in infra cache.
                        2001:502:1ca1::30       not in infra cache.
                        192.12.94.30            rto 279 msec, ttl 496, ping 7 var 68 rtt 279, tA 0, tAAAA 0, tother 0, EDNS 0 probed.
                        2001:501:b1f9::30       not in infra cache.
                        192.55.83.30            not in infra cache.
                        2001:503:39c1::30       not in infra cache.
                        192.43.172.30           not in infra cache.
                        2001:503:231d::2:30     rto 464 msec, ttl 747, ping 20 var 111 rtt 464, tA 0, tAAAA 0, tother 0, EDNS 0 probed.
                        192.33.14.30            rto 333 msec, ttl 680, ping 5 var 82 rtt 333, tA 0, tAAAA 0, tother 0, EDNS 0 probed.
                        2001:503:d414::30       rto 347 msec, ttl 406, ping 7 var 85 rtt 347, tA 0, tAAAA 0, tother 0, EDNS 0 probed.
                        192.35.51.30            not in infra cache.
                        2001:500:d937::30       rto 342 msec, ttl 495, ping 6 var 84 rtt 342, tA 0, tAAAA 0, tother 0, EDNS 0 probed.
                        192.41.162.30           not in infra cache.
                        2001:502:7094::30       rto 374 msec, ttl 806, ping 10 var 91 rtt 374, tA 0, tAAAA 0, tother 0, EDNS 0 probed.
                        192.48.79.30            not in infra cache.
                        2001:502:8cc::30        rto 369 msec, ttl 712, ping 9 var 90 rtt 369, tA 0, tAAAA 0, tother 0, EDNS 0 probed.
                        192.54.112.30           not in infra cache.
                        2001:503:eea3::30       rto 325 msec, ttl 680, ping 13 var 78 rtt 325, tA 0, tAAAA 0, tother 0, EDNS 0 probed.
                        192.42.93.30            rto 320 msec, ttl 688, ping 4 var 79 rtt 320, tA 0, tAAAA 0, tother 0, EDNS 0 probed.
                        [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: 
                        

                        You can see that unbound has been talking to root servers.

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                        • KOMK
                          KOM
                          last edited by KOM

                          @johnpoz said in DNS Resolver Status, no data?:

                          I cleared the cache and then used the same nslookup session I had going to 10.10.4.1 to resolve www.whatever.com

                          [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfsense.???.local]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf flush_infra all
                          ok
                          [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfsense.???.local]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf dump_infra
                          [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfsense.???.local]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf dump_infra
                          [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfsense.???.local]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf dump_infra
                          [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfsense.???.local]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf dump_infra
                          [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfsense.???.local]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf dump_infra
                          192.203.230.10 . ttl 896 ping 1 var 74 rtt 297 rto 297 tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0 ednsknown 1 edns 0 delay 0 lame dnssec 0 rec 0 A 0 other 0
                          192.112.36.4 . ttl 896 ping 4 var 79 rtt 320 rto 320 tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0 ednsknown 1 edns 0 delay 0 lame dnssec 0 rec 0 A 0 other 0
                          198.57.151.238 whatever.com. ttl 896 ping 21 var 73 rtt 313 rto 313 tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0 ednsknown 1 edns 0 delay 0 lame dnssec 0 rec 0 A 0 other 0
                          193.0.14.129 . ttl 896 ping 15 var 66 rtt 279 rto 279 tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0 ednsknown 1 edns 0 delay 0 lame dnssec 0 rec 0 A 0 other 0
                          199.9.14.201 . ttl 896 ping 9 var 89 rtt 365 rto 365 tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0 ednsknown 1 edns 0 delay 0 lame dnssec 0 rec 0 A 0 other 0
                          192.52.178.30 com. ttl 896 ping 3 var 77 rtt 311 rto 311 tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0 ednsknown 1 edns 0 delay 0 lame dnssec 0 rec 0 A 0 other 0
                          192.36.148.17 . ttl 896 ping 3 var 78 rtt 315 rto 315 tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0 ednsknown 1 edns 0 delay 0 lame dnssec 0 rec 0 A 0 other 0
                          192.58.128.30 . ttl 896 ping 27 var 124 rtt 523 rto 523 tA 0 tAAAA 0 tother 0 ednsknown 1 edns 0 delay 0 lame dnssec 0 rec 0 A 0 other 0
                          
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                          • KOMK
                            KOM
                            last edited by

                            @jimp, any insight into what's going on here?

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                            • jimpJ
                              jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                              last edited by

                              We just show what unbound dumps out. If it's empty, then it's empty in unbound. That could be for any number of reasons, all up to unbound. If you have something like pfBlockerNG and DNSBL active that could contribute to any differences you see. Also keep in mind if you have DHCP registration active for the DNS resolver, unbound will restart for each lease change that triggers a hostname update.

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Well that output looks normal... That is your infra cache for that domain, in what would be used to look it up... So you should see the full cache output in the gui then.

                                  As jimp stated all that gui is showing you is the output of the command dump_infra

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                                  • KOMK
                                    KOM
                                    last edited by

                                    Yes, I get that. What I don't get is how this list is empty, then 5 minute later it's full, then 5 minutes later it's empty. Does it really flush that frequently?

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                                    • jimpJ
                                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                      last edited by

                                      When you talk to the roots in resolver mode there isn't much reason to keep around data for dozens of authoritative servers you may not talk to again for who knows how long.

                                      If you have the DNS Resolver in forwarding mode, it will show your forwarders there for much longer.

                                      But again, unbound could be clearing that for any other reason, like a restart

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                        last edited by johnpoz

                                        The infra cache entries should stay their for the length of the ttl..

                                        Yeah if your unbound is restarting then the cache is going to be dumped.

                                        If you have it registering dhcp leases and you have lots of clients getting leases all the time then yeah it could be restarting every few minutes. Which makes the cache pretty useless to be honest ;)

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                                        • KOMK
                                          KOM
                                          last edited by

                                          I've already checked that Unbound is not restarting frequently. In fact, it hasn't restarted since its last boot 49 days ago in late January.

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                            last edited by johnpoz

                                            Well something is dumping the infra cache then.. You have any crons setup? Do you have pfblocker installed?

                                            If unbound is up and running and being asked there would always be plenty of info in that cache.. Hmmm did you mess with the number of entries int he advanced tab?

                                            Did you change the
                                            TTL for Host Cache Entries
                                            Setting from its default 15 min to say 1 min or something?

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