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SG-1100 Throughput Test

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    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
    last edited by Jan 30, 2019, 4:56 AM

    Yeah.

    The SG-1100 is designed with a single gigabit link to a switch chip. That switch chip breaks out to WAN, LAN, and OPT. Everyone wanted pfSense on an espresso.bin. This is how the espresso.bin is designed.

    So it is essentially a router on a stick.

    880Mbit/sec is pretty impressive in that context.

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      hbauer @Derelict
      last edited by hbauer Jan 30, 2019, 7:11 AM Jan 30, 2019, 6:58 AM

      @derelict thank you. It may look so but I really dont want to water down our wine. I am really impressed.

      I should have said "only adds 50MBits/sec". This device will serve every internet connection you can normally buy for decent money in Germany.

      I believe from a price value point this is excellent given the fact that the powerful pfSense capabilities are within this small little device

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        JInx-IT
        last edited by Apr 10, 2019, 2:36 PM

        I can't get more than 250 Mbps with a Vanilla install. Which version of pfSense are you running? Mine is 2.4.4

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          hbauer @JInx-IT
          last edited by Apr 10, 2019, 4:32 PM

          @JInx-IT plain vanilla pfsense latest version that was installed out of the box. 2.4.4-p2

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            JInx-IT
            last edited by Apr 10, 2019, 5:49 PM

            You are correct. I have, however, heard that people running 2.3.* are getting gigabit speeds. I was wondering if it was a 2.4.* issue that was throttling me to around 250 Mpbs. If other people are getting Gigabit, or close, speeds in 2.4.*, I'd like to know what they are running and how it's configured. My gut says I have something misconfigured, but I don't have a clue what it would be. I was hoping I could compare between my setup and another person's who was getting at least closer to Gigabit speeds, with the same hardware.

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              hbauer @JInx-IT
              last edited by Apr 10, 2019, 5:51 PM

              @JInx-IT and what are your results with 2.4.4-p2 and what is your test environment?

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                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                last edited by Apr 10, 2019, 5:53 PM

                Not sure what you're talking about since the SG-1100 was never supported by anything older than pfSense 2.4.4-p1.

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by Apr 10, 2019, 5:53 PM

                  Maybe he is confusing the SG-1100, with the 1000?

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                    JInx-IT
                    last edited by Apr 10, 2019, 5:58 PM

                    I've read posts from people claiming to be running an old Dell desktop with a couple of gigabit cards, running pfSense 2.3.*, getting in the high 990 Mbps. I can plug my laptop straight into the modem and get the same. High 990 Mbps, no problem. When I put the Netgate SG-1100 between my laptop and the modem, my speeds go down to 250 Mbps or lower.

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                      hbauer @JInx-IT
                      last edited by Apr 10, 2019, 6:01 PM

                      @JInx-IT you installed 2.3 on a sg -1100?

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz Apr 10, 2019, 6:04 PM Apr 10, 2019, 6:03 PM

                        @JInx-IT said in SG-1100 Throughput Test:

                        getting in the high 990 Mbps.

                        Nonsense - since not possible to get that on a gig interface... Do the math yourself..

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                          JInx-IT
                          last edited by Apr 10, 2019, 6:05 PM

                          That's with no traffic shaping or anything. It's just the basic setup.

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz Apr 10, 2019, 6:09 PM Apr 10, 2019, 6:07 PM

                            Dude you have been show simple out of the box the SG-1100 doing high 800's if your only seeing 250ish you got something wrong with your testing method or your hardware in the path of your test.

                            You have yet to show your test method. Sorry but you aint going to see 990s on any gig interface. your going to be in the 940's as max..

                            Duplicate the testing that hbauer did above.

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                              JInx-IT
                              last edited by Apr 10, 2019, 6:14 PM

                              I never said I am running 2.3.*, I'm running what came on it, which is 2.4.4-p2. My question was, and still is, how to achieve Gigabit speeds with an SG-1100, when it looks like the hardware itself can't support anything more than 250 Mbps. I'm hoping I'm wrong, so I'm here looking for proof that I'm configuring something incorrectly. Why can my laptop to the modem get Gigabit speeds, but a basic config in the SG-1100 maxes out at 250 Mbps? The answer, I feel, is in looking at the differences between my configuration, and somebody's who has the correct config in their SG-1100, and by correct config, I mean somebody who is getting Gigabit speeds.

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                                hbauer @JInx-IT
                                last edited by hbauer Apr 10, 2019, 6:19 PM Apr 10, 2019, 6:18 PM

                                @JInx-IT I am just a netgate customer and I can confirm the results posted above. The hardware can do it without any changes to the standard config. I suggest to open another topic with more details about your modem. I suspect that there is a need for some changes.

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                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by johnpoz Apr 10, 2019, 6:21 PM Apr 10, 2019, 6:20 PM

                                  Dude out of the box it will do gig speeds... You have been shown this and confirmed by multiple people..

                                  Benchmarks are listed here as well
                                  https://www.netgate.com/blog/netgates-new-sg-1100-punches-way-above-its-weight.html

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                                    JInx-IT
                                    last edited by Apr 10, 2019, 6:28 PM

                                    The modem is setup the way we have had things setup for the last 4 years worth of using a pfSense router, which we traditionally ran off of a SuperMicro system. Pretty much all of our clients are running one, and they aren't going much past 200 Mbps. When we went up to over 400 Mbps, we noticed the router was bottlenecking the speeds, because bypassing the router and running a laptop straight to the modem produced the advertised speeds. The same is holding true with the SG-1100. Doing a speedtest from the router maxes out at 250 Mbps, but taking the router out, and plugging the laptop directly into the modem, the laptop gets Gigabit speeds. What we need, is a router we can suggest to our clients that will get Gigabit speeds. The issue is, it looks like we will have to use some cast off desktops to get that going, instead of using a professional hardware package. What I'm hoping for is that I'm missing something in the config settings that is impeding the throughput. I would love to offer this box as a Gigabit solution.

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                                      JInx-IT @johnpoz
                                      last edited by Apr 10, 2019, 6:30 PM

                                      @johnpoz So, are you saying that it's a defective SG-1100? Because, out of the box, it's not getting gig speeds. Not even close.

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                                        hbauer @JInx-IT
                                        last edited by hbauer Apr 10, 2019, 6:32 PM Apr 10, 2019, 6:32 PM

                                        @JInx-IT Do you have a change to try my setup with iperf connected to a switch? If this is better then you know its a configuration thing. if not open a ticket at netgate

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                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @JInx-IT
                                          last edited by johnpoz Apr 10, 2019, 6:37 PM Apr 10, 2019, 6:35 PM

                                          @JInx-IT said in SG-1100 Throughput Test:

                                          it's not getting gig speeds. Not even close.

                                          And you have yet to show you can actually do a valid test... Lets see your test method and showing that your client and server can actually talk doing gig, etc.

                                          hbauer gave exacting details of testing done showing 880's

                                          If after showing valid test methods and default config - then yeah open a support ticket.

                                          Doing a speed test to some internet site with some client behind pfsense is NOT a valid test method.

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