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    How to install this thing without formatting and erasing data

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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    • Alpha RadkeA
      Alpha Radke @johnpoz
      last edited by Alpha Radke

      @johnpoz what's the difference if I'm keeping the USB connected or closing the vm after configurating the network? Back to my first question about configuration activity lol

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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        OMG dude you don't get what psfsense does if you think you can just close it down once you have "configured" something..

        See that router you linked too - that is what pfsense does... If you turned off your router could you get to the internet??

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        • Alpha RadkeA
          Alpha Radke @johnpoz
          last edited by

          @johnpoz oh so I have to keep VM running... That's not good for my core i5 lol

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by

            What exactly are you wanting to accomplish exactly... Cuz you clearly do not understand what pfsense even is.

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            • Alpha RadkeA
              Alpha Radke @johnpoz
              last edited by

              @johnpoz if I don't understand what pfsense is then why would I be trying to install it XD I just didn't understand how it basically works and you made it clear to me

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by

                Please what did you think pfsense was going to do for you "exactly"...

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                • Alpha RadkeA
                  Alpha Radke @johnpoz
                  last edited by

                  @johnpoz run through my router. Thats why I thought my configuration would still be active if I closed pfsense drive or VM but it turned out to be my new router

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    @Alpha-Radke said in How to install this thing without formatting and erasing data:

                    run through my router.

                    What does that even mean? What is it that your router is not doing for you that you feel pfsense could do for you? But not be running? Are you looking for something to administer your router other than its web gui?

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                    • Alpha RadkeA
                      Alpha Radke @johnpoz
                      last edited by

                      @johnpoz oh about that. It's a long story. ISPs in Egypt don't have tons of network features like ipv6 or port forwarding. We got ISP locked WAN and many disasters. I thought pfsense might help in any way

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        If your behind a carrier grade nat, pfsense not going to fix that. You could use a HE tunnel to get IPv6..

                        But what exactly do you think having IPv6 gets you - name 1 major resource that is ONLY available IPv6... While sure IPv6 is at some point the future.. That future is not today - your not missing out on anything not having it.. My ISP doesn't have it - don't care.. While I work in networking and security and do this also for my hobby, I can just fire up a hurricane electric tunnel for IPv6.. So now I can do whatever I want with IPv6 - but its sure isn't a requirement for anything.

                        You could do the same thing without pfsense, if you want IPv6 you can just tunnel to your windows or linux OS..

                        I don't get how someone with zero understanding of networking, even cares..

                        If you want to replace your current router and play with pfsense - have at it.. Get some old pc with a couple of nics and have it.. Buy a netgear appliance!!! The sg-1100 would be perfect entry into having a real router/firewall - is very reasonable in price.

                        Or!! strap on your learning hat and learn about how to run VMs on your box and use them as a router.. But you can not turn it off while wanting to use it.. And don't try to dual boot it on your machine using a usb disk..

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                        • Alpha RadkeA
                          Alpha Radke @johnpoz
                          last edited by Alpha Radke

                          @johnpoz sir you keep taking examples I give as serious things I want. All I want is a upnp, working nat, static network options. I know everything you said about ipv6.
                          I am just giving it a try maybe nothing would work because it's all ISP locked features.
                          Btw hi I'm software and network engineering student, second college year. So thanks for that. I learned some pfsense basics

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Great. Setup pfSense in a VM and see how it works. That's what I do when testing s new feature etc.

                            Steve

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by johnpoz

                              if your isp router is locked down!!! Putting any router behind it is going to get you NOTHING!! You can for example turn on UPnP all day long on a router behind your isp router... Not going to do anything for you..

                              If your isp router doesn't allow bridge mode where pfsense gets a public IP, or at min say a dmz host where all traffic is forwarded to said IP behind the router.. There is nothing you can do for inbound stuff like port forwards or UPnP

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Yeah the only thing you could do is setup a tunnel to some other location where you do have full control of the inbound connection. However I'm aware that's probably an issue in Egypt, it will be hard to impossible.

                                Steve

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  And don't forget the skillset of the user..

                                  Your best bet would be to run a vpn client on your pc if what your after is circumvention of outbound policies or dns rules.. For inbound stuff - whole different level of skillsets required, and vpn services that supports it even (not many do) or the ability to run your own vps somewhere out on the public internet and set it all up yourself.. Skillset going to be issue in this case, etc.

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                                  • Alpha RadkeA
                                    Alpha Radke @johnpoz
                                    last edited by

                                    @johnpoz yeah even so it's not my ISP router

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                                    • Alpha RadkeA
                                      Alpha Radke
                                      last edited by

                                      as soon as I give my router ISP details it's a dead place

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        What do you want to know dude, if your isp is locked down to prevent inbound traffic, there is nothing pfsense can do to fix that.. Run a vpn that supports inbound traffic if that is what your after.

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