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    Potential DNS Issue On Windows 10 PC's

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      LohanDett
      last edited by

      DNS Port is allowed in your firewall? If 8.8.8.8 works but not google.de maybe that's the issue.

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        akministrator
        last edited by

        Essentially I can ping 8.8.8.8 on the Windows PC's, but not google.com.
        I'll include some screenshots of my settings, most of which are on default since the factory reset.1.jpg 2.png 3.png 4.png

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        • NogBadTheBadN
          NogBadTheBad
          last edited by

          I'd untick DNS Server Override for a start.

          Andy

          1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by

            lets see your lan rules..

            And output of nslookp..

            example

            $ nslookup www.google.com                 
            Server:  sg4860.local.lan                 
            Address:  192.168.9.253                   
                                                      
            Non-authoritative answer:                 
            Name:    www.google.com                   
            Addresses:  2607:f8b0:4009:812::2004      
                      172.217.6.100                   
            

            Does it say timeout, what?

            If can not resolve pfsense name as the server - points to not being able to even talk to dns on pfsense.

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              akministrator
              last edited by

              Tried unticking DNS Server Override, I assume I will now need to set some DNS servers manually in System > General Setup > DNS Server Settings. e.g. 1.1.1.1 / 1.0.0.1.

              Here is a screenshot of LAN Interface settings:
              6.png

              nslookup result on Windows PC:
              7.png

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by

                So your windows machine is using that fe80 address for dns.. Which is link local ipv6 address, is that pfsense?

                And its looking for www.google.com.localdomain

                Which is resolving to 198.18.1.1..

                Why is you client auto adding that localdomain in your query? And why does that resolve to 198.18.1.1???

                NetRange: 198.18.0.0 - 198.19.255.255
                CIDR: 198.18.0.0/15
                NetName: SPECIAL-IPV4-BENCHMARK-TESTING-IANA-RESERVED

                Change your server in nslookup to use pfsense ipv4 address.

                $ nslookup
                Default Server:  sg4860.local.lan
                Address:  192.168.9.253
                
                > server 192.168.1.1
                Default Server:  [192.168.1.1]
                Address:  192.168.1.1
                

                Then ask for www.google.com

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                • NogBadTheBadN
                  NogBadTheBad
                  last edited by

                  If you use DNS resolver it talks to the root servers.

                  Does a lookup directly from your pfSense box still resolve FQDNs?

                  Andy

                  1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                    akministrator
                    last edited by

                    I have no idea what that fe80 IPV6 Address is, I don't think its pfSense. Also not sure what 192.18.1.1 is, never seen that before.

                    Changing the server in nslookup displays a more promising result:
                    9.png

                    A lookup from the pfSense box resolves to a FQDN:
                    10.png

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by johnpoz

                      So you need to figure out who exactly is that fe80 address?

                      look on pfsense lan interface - is that pfsense linklocal address?
                      linklocal.png

                      You can find that under the status / interfaces tab

                      198.18 is a special address block - like rfc1918 address space... Suppose to be used in special cases for benchmarking, etc..

                      Do you have any other router on the network? Say an ISP device... what is the output of ipconfig /all on your windows box... Did you setup ipv6 on pfsense?

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                        akministrator
                        last edited by akministrator

                        So the LAN interface IP on PF is not the same as the one listed in the CMD screenshot (fe80).

                        "198.18 is a special address block - like rfc1918 address space... Suppose to be used in special cases for benchmarking, etc.."

                        Interesting.

                        "Do you have any other router on the network? Say an ISP device... what is the output of ipconfig /all on your windows box... Did you setup ipv6 on pfsense?"

                        I think there might be some routers around but they would have DHCP turned off.
                        There is also an ISP device on the the network (FTTC box).
                        I haven't set IPV6 on PF. I did a factory reset earlier today though.
                        Standby I'll get the full output of ipconf.

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                          akministrator
                          last edited by

                          Here is the full IP configuration from CMD.
                          11.png

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                            akministrator
                            last edited by

                            PF LAN interface stats.
                            12.png

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                              akministrator
                              last edited by

                              "198.18 is a special address block - like rfc1918 address space... Suppose to be used in special cases for benchmarking, etc.."

                              Actually, Prime95 happens to be running on that particular PC, maybe that has something to do with it?

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                                sotirone
                                last edited by

                                You are passing ipv6 addresses from something through pfsense. Your ISP modem/router is also using ipv6 and you have configured your LAN Interface to take those ipv6 addresses and probably use them.

                                If you have no need, disable ipv6, remove the ipv6 track interface from the LAN interface configuration page and I suppose your problems will go away. It might be that your Linux machines are not configured to use ipv6 and thus have no problems.

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                                  akministrator
                                  last edited by

                                  "If you have no need, disable ipv6, remove the ipv6 track interface from the LAN interface configuration page and I suppose your problems will go away. It might be that your Linux machines are not configured to use ipv6 and thus have no problems."

                                  Yep that seems to have done it, although I wasn't able to stop IPV6 Track on the LAN interface. Due to this error; "The DHCP6 Server is active on this interface and it can be used only with a static IPv6 configuration. Please disable the DHCPv6 Server service on this interface first, then change the interface configuration".

                                  Regardless I disabled IPV6 on the Windows PC's for good measure and they are able to load webpages now.

                                  Thanks for the help.

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                                    sotirone @akministrator
                                    last edited by

                                    @akministrator Glad to help although your setup is still problematic.

                                    If you have no use for ipv6, please disable the dhcpv6 server and everything related to ipv6 under each Interface, DHCP or DNS tabs. Your Windows machines were being assigned either local or probably public ipv6 addresses from either the ISP modem/router or the ISP itself and that could lead to security risks.

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by johnpoz

                                      well somehow your windows box got it in head to use that link local 4eb2 device as dns...

                                      You really need to figure out what that device is... To start with you could do a simple sniff on your windows machine and then do a nslookup for something that is asking that 4eb2 box.. Say using wireshark - which you can then see the mac address with.. From that you can atleast tell what is the maker of the device from the first 3 numbers in the mac..

                                      You could also do a
                                      netsh int ipv6 show neighbors

                                      from a cmd prompt on windows and look to see the mac address of that 4eb2 address.

                                      unless you enabled ipv6 in pfsense, and turned on RA - it could be handing that info out... What else is on network windows is connected too.. How does your isp device connect into your network..

                                      for example on my windows box I see this in the neighbors table

                                      fe80::208:a2ff:fe0c:e624                      00-08-a2-0c-e6-24  Stale (Router)
                                      

                                      If I look up that 00-08-a2 I cans tell that its the pfsense box..

                                      https://aruljohn.com/mac/0008A2
                                      maclookkup.png

                                      Or you could look it up here as well
                                      anotherlookupspot.png

                                      as to it being prime95, the search for prime numbers thing - yeah I find that really unlikely.. Your best bet is to track down the device with that 4eb2 address... Another way would be to sniff and look for RAs

                                      Running wireshark on your windows machine you can see the RAs and then figure out the device sending them telling you to use that 4eb2 address for dns..

                                      icmp6.png

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                        last edited by johnpoz

                                        Just to make sure its not left over something from when you were playing with ipv6 maybe on pfsense? Look at the RA on your lan in pfsense - or any other interfaces in case you have multiple networks on the same layer 2 and validate that RA are not enabled on any of pfsense interfaces.

                                        leftovers.png

                                        And dhcpv6 as well - if your not using IPv6 none of this should be running on pfsense.

                                        Quick fix would be to just disable ipv6 on windows - but you really should figure out where its getting that info from.

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                                          johner
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi,

                                          I have a similar issue, with 192.18.1.1 showing as any hosts IP when pinging them, this is on 2 x win10 machines.

                                          I have a SamKnows ACCC monitoring box between pfSense lan interface and my switch where all devices connect to.

                                          WAN > PFS > SamKnows > Switch >devices (inc Wifi AP)

                                          Some win10 machines are fine.

                                          IPv6 all disabled (from what I can see).

                                          OP - did you resolve this?

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                                            akministrator
                                            last edited by

                                            Disabling IPv6 did work in my case, although you don't need to disable it on the PC's if you do it directly in pfSense.

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