Ransomeware infected machine
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Yeah I think it very well could be a legit question... But I understand KOMs frustration with such a question with no follow up at all..
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I think you're reading that into it. He didn't accuse pfSense of anything
'suspects' would have been a better choice of word.
That seems like a reasonable question given what he was seeing.
Slax Linux? Is this guy just trolling? None of this makes any sense.
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Hey all,
Sorry for the delayed followup.For some additional background and rumor control. This is 100% legit (said every troll ever). I have been using PFSense very happily for years and have no doubts or concerns to it being insecure. Whatever this was (and I have a bit of a theory) it was most certainly 100% user error.
This was NOT a VM install, this machine is running on bare metal on a 1U supermicro box with a SATA SSD.
The drive had undergone some sort of formatting as it was not immediately mountable however I did not dig deep on what it was running (it was a work day and I had staff sitting on their thumbs). I debated rolling out a new drive and keeping the old to send to (someone?) once I ran into the problem yesterday but we didn't have any suitable drives in inventory + have deadlines to meet so I elected to just reformat the drive (knowing full well I was going to take flak for it.)Now to some updates:
As previously mentioned we have 2 LANs and 2 WANs here. One LAN/WAN pair is for general internet and the second is for PBX/Telco.
The PBX was running Asterisk with some exposed ports. The Pf sense admin panel was accessible from the PBX LAN.
The PBX was running an old install, and appears to have been compromised (and is now also being rebuilt)
Not 100% sure if the PBX was the point of entry or not but everything is now being hardened substantially as a result of this. -
So your saying someone compromised your pfsense box and put slax linux on it? From your internal pbx lan.. Via the web gui?
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@Derelict said in Ransomeware infected machine:
Even with full remote root ssh/webgui access I struggle to come up with a procedure where such a result would be possible without physical/console access.
Is there IPMI? Is that accessible? Is that secured????
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@YYJWalking said in Ransomeware infected machine:
1U supermicro box
Which specific hardware - IPMI would be by my guess to something like this happening.
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Well I'm not certain that the PBX controller was the entry point, just that it was also impacted. Would it even be possible to infect a machine from the WebGui? Maybe get the box to install a bogus manual package which runs a payload?
The box DOES hsve IPMI (https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-EHF-D525.cfm) but I hadn't checked to see if it had been left open or not (will do so tomrrow and report back.)
So just out of curriosity not a lot of other people have encountered this before is that correct?
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Literally nobody.
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Well that's joyus!!
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Well, that's to be expected when you are on a pfSense forum asking about something that is, in all likelihood, not a pfSense problem.
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JungleSec is well known ransomware that installed via ipmi.. Sure there are others..
There is tons of info and warnings about supermicro bmc firmware (IPMI) that should of been updated long time ago, etc. etc. If your saying this box is from 2014.. That stuff was prob never updated, etc.
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@YYJWalking Thank you for coming back and proving me wrong!
It is unfortunate that this happened to you, and while you will likely never really know for sure how this infection happened, you did get some good advice about possible entry points and remedies.
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Yeah anyone coming here should take the time to validate that their IPMI is not exposed to the public, and make sure the BMC firmware is current, etc..
Also good time to make sure that vlans that do not need access to web gui or ssh, do not have access!!
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Very lucky if the PBX and pfSense box is the only compromised stuff.
Could be a lot worse...-Rico
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@YYJWalking If these 2 machines (pfsense and PBX) were the only ones compromised, I agree with @Rico. Could be worse...
Having said that, depending on how long they were like this, it might be time to do a security audit on your network/machines there.
Jeff
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Perhaps this is how he became exposed?
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/6vord0/rookie_mistake_exposed_supermicro_ipmi_to_the/
I don't use a supermicro board for my pfsense setup but I do use one for another box on my network and had this issue. I'm not using IPMI and didn't have any spare ports on my switch so I had to pull out and old switch and connect it to the IPMI port on the board connecting nothing else to the switch just so the IPMI software would detect the connection and not failover to one of the other ports on the board.
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You can disable that in the BIOS rather than having to connect the port.
Steve
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@mhertzfeld said in Ransomeware infected machine:
not failover to one of the other ports on the board.
It can failover to another port for IPMI? That doesn't seem like all that smart of an idea from a security point of view ;)
