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      daemonix @Veldkornet
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      @Veldkornet said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

      @qinn SSH into it and install flashrom. No need to boot from USB etc.

      pkg install flashrom

      Upload the firmware to /tmp with scp and run:
      flashrom -w /tmp/apu2_v4.9.0.2.rom -p internal:boardmismatch=force

      Shutdown pfSense, pull the power for 10 seconds, then boot up.

      I still run the original (legacy) bios that came with my apu2c4 almost 2 years ago?! (maybe 1 year I cant remember). I also run the latest stable pfsense.

      Anything I need to do (regarding settings or something else) before flushing from the pfsense itself??
      thanks

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        Qinn @daemonix
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        @daemonix Nope, just install the flashrom like above, then download the latest Mainline from here

        https://pcengines.github.io/
        

        then flash it and reboot, I have switched from Legacy to Mainline months ago and everything works still fine.

        ...and btw you don't need the force option, this is enough

        flashrom -w /tmp/apu2_v4.9.0.7.rom -p internal
        

        Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
        Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
        Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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          daemonix @Qinn
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          @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

          @daemonix Nope, just install the flashrom like above, then download the latest Mainline from here

          https://pcengines.github.io/
          

          then flash it and reboot, I have switched from Legacy to Mainline months ago and everything works still fine.

          ...and btw you don't need the force option, this is enough

          flashrom -w /tmp/apu2_v4.9.0.7.rom -p internal
          

          Thanks a lot for the quick replay!
          Im do it later in the evening and hopefully Ill have internet after the reboot heheheh

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            daemonix @Qinn
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              daemonix @Qinn
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              @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

              @daemonix Nope, just install the flashrom like above, then download the latest Mainline from here

              https://pcengines.github.io/
              

              then flash it and reboot, I have switched from Legacy to Mainline months ago and everything works still fine.

              ...and btw you don't need the force option, this is enough

              flashrom -w /tmp/apu2_v4.9.0.7.rom -p internal
              

              Done without a problem!
              I had a serial link to it so I did it from there so I can see the boot sequence.

              Now that I have time to experiment a bit.
              What are the recommended combination of settings that favour performance on a openvpn server nowadays ?

              BSD crypto ON/OFF? CBC/GBC algo? etc..
              I get 40mbit on the apu2 hosted server.

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                fireodo @daemonix
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                @daemonix said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                BSD crypto ON/OFF? CBC/GBC algo? etc..
                I get 40mbit on the apu2 hosted server.

                From my knowledge for the APU2-Board the settings should be AES-NI (in CPU).

                Regards,
                fireodo

                Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                  Qinn
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                  I agree try AES-NI (in cpu) read this please, especially the reply from "jimp" https://forum.netgate.com/topic/114212/aes-ni-cryptodev-openvpn-help-a-n00b-understand/16

                  The setting is in :

                  System/Advanced/Miscellaneous
                  

                  try it and see how it performs.

                  Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                  Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                  Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                    daemonix
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                    fast-io
                    sndbuf 524288
                    rcvbuf 524288

                    added this, changed my PIA client to GCM (my server was already GCM) and I already had just the hardware acceleration only...
                    Gone from 45-sih mbit to 70-70mbit in both PIA and my server!!!

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                      kevindd992002
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                      @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                      https://pcengines.github.io/

                      Does this mean that "AES-NI CPU-based acceleration" is better than the "AES-NI and BSD Crypto Device" option? I'm still confused what the difference between those two are.

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                        fireodo @kevindd992002
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                        @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                        Does this mean that "AES-NI CPU-based acceleration" is better than the "AES-NI and BSD Crypto Device" option? I'm still confused what the difference between those two are.

                        Yes! The Apu2 does not have a dedicated Crypto-Device, the Crypto-Functions are integrated in the CPU (much faster). IMHO

                        Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                        SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                        pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                        Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                          kevindd992002 @fireodo
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                          @fireodo said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                          @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                          Does this mean that "AES-NI CPU-based acceleration" is better than the "AES-NI and BSD Crypto Device" option? I'm still confused what the difference between those two are.

                          Yes! The Apu2 does not have a dedicated Crypto-Device, the Crypto-Functions are integrated in the CPU (much faster). IMHO

                          I see. But won't it use AES-NI anyway if the latter option is selected?

                          Also, in the OpenVPN settings you should chhose None in the Hardware Acceleration field, correct?

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                            fireodo @kevindd992002
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                            @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                            I see. But won't it use AES-NI anyway if the latter option is selected?

                            Freebsd will look for the Crypto-Device wich is not existent and will not fallback to AES-NI CPU based.

                            Also, in the OpenVPN settings you should chhose None in the Hardware Acceleration field, correct?

                            I admit I dont know. Sorry.

                            Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                            SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                            pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                            Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                              daemonix @fireodo
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                              @fireodo said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                              @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                              I see. But won't it use AES-NI anyway if the latter option is selected?

                              Freebsd will look for the Crypto-Device wich is not existent and will not fallback to AES-NI CPU based.

                              Also, in the OpenVPN settings you should chhose None in the Hardware Acceleration field, correct?

                              I admit I dont know. Sorry.

                              Yes this is it. I did all the possible test combinations.
                              Indeed ONLY AES-NI should be selected

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                Yes, the only thing to avoid here is enabling both aes-ni and bsd crypto. Doing that will cause the aes device to register for crypto acceleration via the framework which adds a load of additional steps. It's much faster to use the available CPU instructions directly. As long as it's enabled in the BIOS openssl, and hence openvpn, should use aes-ni.

                                Steve

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                                  Qinn @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                  Yes, the only thing to avoid here is enabling both aes-ni and bsd crypto. Doing that will cause the aes device to register for crypto acceleration via the framework which adds a load of additional steps. It's much faster to use the available CPU instructions directly. As long as it's enabled in the BIOS openssl, and hence openvpn, should use aes-ni.

                                  Steve

                                  So you have to select AES-NI in pfSense and not in OpenVPN, then why is this option (Hardware crypto) present in OpenVPN config within pfSense? Could you please clarify this?

                                  Cheers Qinn

                                  Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                  Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                  Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    I have personally never used that setting. But I have also never had a device with a specifically supported hardware crypto device which is where I would expect it to apply.
                                    In testing I did when we went to OpenVPN 2.4 it was better to leave that set to None in every case.

                                    Steve

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                                      Qinn @stephenw10
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                                      @stephenw10 kudos for clearing that one up!

                                      Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                      Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                      Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                        jahonix @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                        But I have also never had a device with a specifically supported hardware crypto device which ...

                                        Don't want to crush this topic (and can't PM you) but lemme ask how far crypto in the SG-1100 has come? Last thing I know is that HW is present and waits for the software to follow. Anything changed in this regard?

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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          That is still basically the status. I'm not sure how far along that work is, I did see some discussion of it a few days ago.

                                          But that's a good point. On the SG-3100 where the crypto hardware is supported via the CESA driver I am currently running with BSD Crypto device set in both OpenVPN and as the system crypto device.

                                          Steve

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                                            Qinn
                                            last edited by Qinn

                                            Although it is not downloadable at the moment, did anyone tried the new v4.10.0.0?

                                            https://pcengines.github.io/
                                            

                                            Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                            Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                            Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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