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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by

      Your post stated lan, which sure is step 2... But he needs to actually validate the traffic gets there before anything.

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      • DerelictD
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
        last edited by

        List of things to check here:

        https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/nat/port-forward-troubleshooting.html

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          Raffi_ @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz said in opening ports on firewall:

          @richardlhughes said in opening ports on firewall:

          I called them and they told me they are not blocking any ports.

          1st step in troubleshooting any port forward issues is actually validate the traffic gets to your wan... There is nothing pfsense can do if traffic never gets there.

          So this should always be step one... its as easy as going to say can you see me .org and testing for port 80 while you sniff on your wan... Do you see it get there?

          Doesn't matter what your ISP says.. they might not be blocking it, but maybe something else is - say a nat router in front of pfsense for example..

          Another way to figure out if the ISP is not blocking ports is to use GRC service port scan.
          https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
          They basically suggest running the All service port scan on a device not behind a NAT and with software firewall disabled (unprotected). Any ports that come up as stealth are most likely being blocked by your ISP. After running the test if you scroll down the Service Ports Scan Application Guide, you'll see more details on that. Of course don't forget to reenable the firewall after the test.

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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
            last edited by

            That does not guarantee that something upstream is not responding on your behalf.

            The only way to be 100% sure the traffic is arriving on your WAN is to packet capture on your WAN. If it does not arrive there, pfSense cannot forward it.

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            • KOMK
              KOM @johnpoz
              last edited by

              @johnpoz I tend to do it the other way around because in my experience, the traffic almost always gets to WAN. The problem is usually with the NAT itself or some other PEBKAC thing.

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                richardlhughes
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                Wan Rules

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                NAT Rules

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                HAPROXY (I've tried http and tcp for port 80 and cannot get port 80 open)

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                  richardlhughes @Derelict
                  last edited by

                  @Derelict I have checked this list a couple times now. Didn't see anything standing out.

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                    akuma1x
                    last edited by akuma1x

                    Alright, your NAT rules look correct, might want to make the protocol both TCP/UDP, and not just TCP.

                    Your WAN rules are incorrect. Your FIRST set of 443 and 80 allow traffic to just your firewall, not another LAN machine. If you move these two new bottom rules to the very TOP of your firewall rule list, the traffic should move like you are expecting/hoping.

                    Firewall rules are evaluated top down, first to match wins. That's why nothing is hitting 10.0.0.5, 80 and 443 are bouncing around inside the firewall itself, due to the first 2 top rules.

                    Jeff

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                    • DerelictD
                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                      last edited by

                      I don't know what didn't see anything standing out means. Did you see the SYN arrive or not?

                      If you packet capture on WAN for port 32900 and test from the outside, you should see the SYN packet arrive.

                      If you see it, then move your capture to the inside interface for port 32400, you should see the SYN packet sent to 10.0.0.37.

                      If there is no response, look at the server (10.0.0.37) and see why.

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                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                      • DerelictD
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @akuma1x
                        last edited by Derelict

                        @akuma1x said in opening ports on firewall:

                        Alright, your NAT rules look correct, might want to make the protocol both TCP/UDP, and not just TCP.

                        Pet peeve of mine. You shouldn't just randomly forward traffic. You should know if you need TCP, UDP, or both and forward what is required.

                        If he pcaps filtering on just the port, it will show both.

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                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                          richardlhughes @Derelict
                          last edited by

                          @Derelict I didn't do the packet capture on the WAN, the troubleshooting list.

                          How do I setup packet capturing on the WAN? is this something I can setup on my pfsense machine or what is the best method?

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by

                            diagnostic menu, packet capture.. put in the port your wanting to check, wan and click start... Then send the test traffic to that port.

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                            • DerelictD
                              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                              last edited by Derelict

                              Diagnostics > Packet Capture:

                              Interface: WAN
                              Port: 32900

                              Start, Test, Stop, Evaluate.

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                              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
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                                richardlhughes @akuma1x
                                last edited by

                                @akuma1x said in opening ports on firewall:

                                Alright, your NAT rules look correct, might want to make the protocol both TCP/UDP, and not just TCP.

                                Your WAN rules are incorrect. Your FIRST set of 443 and 80 allow traffic to just your firewall, not another LAN machine. If you move these two new bottom rules to the very TOP of your firewall rule list, the traffic should move like you are expecting/hoping.

                                Firewall rules are evaluated top down, first to match wins. That's why nothing is hitting 10.0.0.5, 80 and 443 are bouncing around inside the firewall itself, due to the first 2 top rules.

                                Jeff

                                Using the HA Proxy and not NAT the machine directly I don't think I need the firewall rule to the web server directly on the WAN. I have the NAT for port 80 and 443 disabled along with those firewall rules. I can put 2 new rules to wan to the webserver and see if that works.

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                                • DerelictD
                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                  last edited by

                                  Using HAproxy is a completely different thing. In that case you would need rules passing traffic to the frontend(s).

                                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    And we still don't have a 30 second sniff of wan..

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                                    • chpalmerC
                                      chpalmer
                                      last edited by chpalmer

                                      The first two WAN rules should probably be "WAN Address" instead of "This Firewall".

                                      Just a guess.

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                                        richardlhughes
                                        last edited by

                                        I have the wan packets capture what do you wan me to post here?

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                                        • DerelictD
                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                          last edited by Derelict

                                          Just enough to show the traffic is hitting WAN.

                                          If it is, then a pcap for the proper traffic on LAN.

                                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                            richardlhughes
                                            last edited by

                                            Does this satisfy the wan is seeing port 80. My WAN IP is x.x.176.180

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